Windows 3.1 Janus build 68

[kappabeta]

Why was this removed from the FTP? We now just have 26, 34e, 43e, and 61d. Why remove 68? Was it confirmed to be fake or something?

[skywalker06]

It be better PMing mrpijey, he the ftp administrator he will be able to tell you

[kappabeta]

It be better PMing mrpijey, he the ftp administrator he will be able to tell you

OK, I'll contact mrpijey to see why it was removed.

[skywalker06]

Have you though about applying for ftp access you got over 10 post? have you read the rules about ftp access

[kappabeta]

Have you though about applying for ftp access you got over 10 post? have you read the rules about ftp access

I already have access, my name just didnt turn red for some reason.

[The Distractor]

Have you though about applying for ftp access you got over 10 post? have you read the rules about ftp access

I already have access, my name just didnt turn red for some reason.

Fixed

[Battler]

3.10.068 was removed because the copy we have only had some files from the actual Build, while the rest was from either 061d or RTM. I can upload somewhere (not onto the BA FTP, because it'd be too incomplete to be accepted there) the old ZIP file I have with the files that are 100% certain to be 068, if you wish. The search for the full Build continues.

[kappabeta]

3.10.068 was removed because the copy we have only had some files from the actual Build, while the rest was from either 061d or RTM. I can upload somewhere (not onto the BA FTP, because it'd be too incomplete to be accepted there) the old ZIP file I have with the files that are 100% certain to be 068, if you wish. The search for the full Build continues.

It was removed because it's a frankenbuild. Mixed together with files from other builds. And no one seems to be able to separate the non-original stuff from the b68 stuff, so we had to remove the build since it's an improper one.

So why do we have an incomplete Windows 3.0 beta and an incomplete Windows 2000 build 1983 that was found on Crazybytes disc number 36 then?
I think it was because of the latter (separated the non-original stuff from the real stuff).

[mrpijey]

There's no problem keeping an incomplete build on BA. Of course it would be stupid if we only had like 2-3 files from the original beta, I don't know how incomplete b68 is. Do you have a number of how many original files there are?

[kappabeta]

There's no problem keeping an incomplete build on BA. Of course it would be stupid if we only had like 2-3 files from the original beta, I don't know how incomplete b68 is. Do you have a number of how many original files there are?

Windows 2000 build 1983 is largely complete, but it isn't bootable, making a tricky install.
Windows 3.0 build 55 setup files are RTM, but the rest of the OS has a real interface from that build.
So like chicago build 40, Windows 3.1 build 68 was a "fake" made from several files from the real 68 and merging them with the complete builds 61d and 103.
I'll later try contacting microsoft developer network and ask for a complete copy of the 68 build.

[Battler]

- kappabeta: No, the Chicago 40 that was floating around was made not from actual 40 files, but from files claiming to be from 40 but were never confirmed to be such and were most probably fake.

- mrpijey: I could send you the files I do have that I know for certain are from 068. But it's some 20-30 files at the most.

[kappabeta]

Well, I tryed contacting them, and they said that they don't have the ISO I'm requesting and they only provide software to their subscribers.

[SpiralVortex]

Well, I tryed contacting them, and they said that they don't have the ISO I'm requesting and they only provide software to their subscribers.

Hardly surprising, as the Microsoft Developer Network is just that - for developers, they don't have old beta versions of software lying around!

Here's the list of "W" programs on MSDN. NB, I don't have a subscription so can't download any of these any more (Microsoft expired my Websitespark membership 5 months early!)

Web Control SDK and DDKs
Web Platform Installer
Web Services Enhancements
Web Storage SDK and DDKs
Windows 3.1 (16-bit)
Windows 3.11 (16-bit)
Windows 3.11 for Workgroups (16-bit)
Windows 3.2 (16-bit)
Windows 7
Windows 8
Windows 8.1
Windows 8.1 Update
Windows 8.1 with Update
Windows Advanced Server
Windows CE .NET Platform Builder 4.1
Windows CE .NET Platform Builder 4.2
Windows CE DirectX Kit
Windows CE Toolkit Visual C++ 6.0
Windows DNA XML
Windows Embedded
Windows Embedded 8 Industry Pro
Windows Embedded 8 Standard
Windows Embedded 8.1 Industry
Windows Embedded 8.1 Industry Update
Windows Embedded 8.1 Industry with Update
Windows Embedded CE 5.0
Windows Embedded CE 6.0
Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R2
Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R3
Windows Embedded Device Manager
Windows Embedded POSReady
Windows Essential Business Server 2008
Windows Hardware Compatibility
Windows Home Server
Windows Home Server 2011
Windows Installer
Windows Internet Explorer 7
Windows Internet Explorer 8
Windows Media
Windows Mobile 2002
Windows Mobile 2003
Windows Mobile 5.0
Windows Mobile 6.0
Windows MultiPoint Server 2011
Windows MultiPoint Server 2012
Windows NT 3.51
Windows Point of Service
Windows Real-Time Communications
Windows Rights Management Services
Windows SDK and DDKs
Windows Server 2003
Windows Server 2003 R2
Windows Server 2008
Windows Server 2008 R2
Windows Server 2012
Windows Server 2012 Essentials
Windows Server 2012 R2
Windows Server 2012 R2 Essentials
Windows Server 2012 R2 Preview
Windows Server 2012 R2 Update
Windows Server 2012 R2 with Update
Windows Server Update
Windows Services for UNIX 1.0
Windows Services for UNIX 2.0
Windows Services for UNIX 3.0
Windows Services for UNIX 3.5
Windows SharePoint Services
Windows Small Business Server 2008
Windows Small Business Server 2011
Windows Storage Server 2008
Windows Storage Server 2008 R2
Windows Thin PC
Windows Virtual PC
Windows Vista
Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor 1.0
Windows Workflow Foundation
Windows XP
Windows XP Embedded
WinFS

[kappabeta]

Well, I tryed contacting them, and they said that they don't have the ISO I'm requesting and they only provide software to their subscribers.

Hardly surprising, as the Microsoft Developer Network is just that - for developers, they don't have old beta versions of software lying around!

Here's the list of "W" programs on MSDN. NB, I don't have a subscription so can't download any of these any more (Microsoft expired my Websitespark membership 5 months early!)

Web Control SDK and DDKs
Web Platform Installer
Web Services Enhancements
Web Storage SDK and DDKs
Windows 3.1 (16-bit)
Windows 3.11 (16-bit)
Windows 3.11 for Workgroups (16-bit)
Windows 3.2 (16-bit)
Windows 7
Windows 8
Windows 8.1
Windows 8.1 Update
Windows 8.1 with Update
Windows Advanced Server
Windows CE .NET Platform Builder 4.1
Windows CE .NET Platform Builder 4.2
Windows CE DirectX Kit
Windows CE Toolkit Visual C++ 6.0
Windows DNA XML
Windows Embedded
Windows Embedded 8 Industry Pro
Windows Embedded 8 Standard
Windows Embedded 8.1 Industry
Windows Embedded 8.1 Industry Update
Windows Embedded 8.1 Industry with Update
Windows Embedded CE 5.0
Windows Embedded CE 6.0
Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R2
Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R3
Windows Embedded Device Manager
Windows Embedded POSReady
Windows Essential Business Server 2008
Windows Hardware Compatibility
Windows Home Server
Windows Home Server 2011
Windows Installer
Windows Internet Explorer 7
Windows Internet Explorer 8
Windows Media
Windows Mobile 2002
Windows Mobile 2003
Windows Mobile 5.0
Windows Mobile 6.0
Windows MultiPoint Server 2011
Windows MultiPoint Server 2012
Windows NT 3.51
Windows Point of Service
Windows Real-Time Communications
Windows Rights Management Services
Windows SDK and DDKs
Windows Server 2003
Windows Server 2003 R2
Windows Server 2008
Windows Server 2008 R2
Windows Server 2012
Windows Server 2012 Essentials
Windows Server 2012 R2
Windows Server 2012 R2 Essentials
Windows Server 2012 R2 Preview
Windows Server 2012 R2 Update
Windows Server 2012 R2 with Update
Windows Server Update
Windows Services for UNIX 1.0
Windows Services for UNIX 2.0
Windows Services for UNIX 3.0
Windows Services for UNIX 3.5
Windows SharePoint Services
Windows Small Business Server 2008
Windows Small Business Server 2011
Windows Storage Server 2008
Windows Storage Server 2008 R2
Windows Thin PC
Windows Virtual PC
Windows Vista
Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor 1.0
Windows Workflow Foundation
Windows XP
Windows XP Embedded
WinFS

Nice. Back to betas, Microsoft will never give you a beta that is 21 or 22 years old, because they deleted 3.1 build 68 from their servers, and they don't have it, even if you are a subscriber. I have the same incomplete Janus build 68, and if this removal was unfair or a full version is found someone may reupload it.