This one screenshot of Copland on BetaWiki

[ZanyToonWB]

So, I was on BetaWiki, and I was checking the page on Mac OS Copland, a cancelled version of Mac OS that was in development from 1994 to 1996. It was months ago, and there used to be no picture associated with it. But a few months ago, a picture was finally added to it, and it looked weird. It had a possible precursor to the Mac OS X dock, I think it was showing what windows were minimized, but I'm not sure exactly what it was for. The windows open were for the My Mac folder and the Appearance settings. it had a desktop background that looked like blue leather, most likely a tiled image.

I saw a YouTube video on my phone with demos for Mac OS Copland, which looked like the picture I described, so I am unsure if this image is real or not. There was an exit button on the picture, same with the demos. I even think that the picture was a screenshot from the demo. The icons on the desktop are all different sizes, and the Special menu says "Special", but in the known builds, it is a different word starting with S every time, one of them used in Copland was "Sun N Fun".

If the picture is of a real build, then it's most likely build D11Ex, maybe an unleaked build. If it was a recent screenshot from someone on BetaWiki, I am unsure how they got that screenshot, since no emulators are known to boot any of the builds. But I don't think it is from a BetaWiki member, since it has the exit button from the demos.

So, is this build real or not?

LINK: https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:MacOSCopland.png

[anonymous74]

It's a screenshot from a demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXfsAYUjvms

The features shown are real, or at least were planned to be. The "minimized" windows feature you were talking about ended up as a feature in the final Mac OS 8, which was not the full rewrite that Copland planned to be. You'd drag a window to the bottom and it would stick there, looking just like the screenshot.

[ZanyToonWB]

It's a screenshot from a demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXfsAYUjvms

The features shown are real, or at least were planned to be. The "minimized" windows feature you were talking about ended up as a feature in the final Mac OS 8, which was not the full rewrite that Copland planned to be. You'd drag a window to the bottom and it would stick there, looking just like the screenshot.

But what I am asking is if it's a screenshot of an actual build? I'm kinda suspicious of this build, because the icons on the desktop are different sizes and the Special menu says "Special", but it might be real. I think the only way to see is if we install build D11E4, but it has to be on a real PowerPC Macintosh, as none of the emulators can boot any of them.

[anonymous74]

To my knowledge, it has to be a NuBus PPC desktop, which I don’t have. I’ve only got laptops which won’t work. The demo is real though, from Apple. If anyone’s got a Power Macintosh 6100, 7100, 8100 or similar performa variant, feel free to try it.

Edit: found the list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland ... ng_system)
Supports some early PCI macs too. No PowerBooks though so I’m out of luck

[ActivateYourTech]

Why is "Black" (in the theme called "Black and white" in the "Themes" tab) spelt as "Balck"?

[MyFaceNeverWhen]

To my knowledge, it has to be a NuBus PPC desktop, which I don’t have. I’ve only got laptops which won’t work. The demo is real though, from Apple. If anyone’s got a Power Macintosh 6100, 7100, 8100 or similar performa variant, feel free to try it.

Edit: found the list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland ... ng_system)
Supports some early PCI macs too. No PowerBooks though so I’m out of luck

There is a Power Macintosh 6100 being sold on eBay: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/354604422029?ep ... BM5JLQudBh

Including that is a Power Macintosh 7100 too: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/185787952220?ha ... R97d9rnQYQ

[anonymous74]

I'm not about to buy one right now. no monitor or compatible keyboard in my collection.

[MyFaceNeverWhen]

It's a screenshot from a demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXfsAYUjvms

The features shown are real, or at least were planned to be. The "minimized" windows feature you were talking about ended up as a feature in the final Mac OS 8, which was not the full rewrite that Copland planned to be. You'd drag a window to the bottom and it would stick there, looking just like the screenshot.

But what I am asking is if it's a screenshot of an actual build? I'm kinda suspicious of this build, because the icons on the desktop are different sizes and the Special menu says "Special", but it might be real. I think the only way to see is if we install build D11E4, but it has to be on a real PowerPC Macintosh, as none of the emulators can boot any of them.

There are some videos about Copland on YouTube. One demos the D11E4 build, it can be found here:



And it renames the Special menu to something else, instead of keeping it as is. So the image is most likely a concept, as it does not fit into the design language of the available Copland builds, nor that none of them had the "Special" menu text as is (DR1 likely was planned to keep it as is but never saw the light of day since it was cancelled):