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 PostPost subject: DiscImageCreator dumps are now accepted        Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:50 pm 
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From now on you can also use DiscImageCreator to dump your CDs and DVDs.

DiscImageCreator is an advanced command line disc dumping tool found at https://github.com/saramibreak/DiscImageCreator and used by several preservation communities.

The only caveat is that if you want to dump CDs you will need a compatible optical reader (see website for details), you will get an error trying to dump the disc if your drive is incompatible. Use Alcohol120% for CDs if you're unable to use DiscImageCreator. But for DVDs any drive should work. The tool is not very easy to use for the novice, and it has lots of options to dump various disc formats, but for the common CD and DVD-based PC titles the command line is as follows:

For Data CD dumping (only with compatible drives!)

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DiscImageCreator.exe cd [driveletter] [filename.bin] 16 /d8 /c2 1000 /q /ns /s 2

Example: DiscImageCreator.exe cd D Disc01.bin 16 /d8 /c2 1000 /q /ns /s 2

(add /sf for Safedisc protected discs, /ns for Securom protected discs)


For Data DVD dumping:

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DiscImageCreator.exe dvd [driveletter] [folder]\[filename.iso] 16

Example: DiscImageCreator.exe dvd D Disc01\Disc01.iso 16

(add /c for DVD Video discs, this will take a considerable time to finish)


It must be BIN for CDs and ISO for DVDs.

Please name the disc after the disc number, if it's just a single disc then it's Disc01.

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I have created a small ZIP file with the software as well as batch files for easy use. To run it unpack the contents to a folder and run one of the batch files. Follow the instructions.

There is an UI you can download and use with DiscImageCreator but I've found it to be problematic and complicated to use, so I opted for these batch-files instead.

If all this is too complicated or doesn't work then use Alcohol 120% according to our guidelines. I will not accept BIN or ISO files created from any other tools!

I'll be accepting these DiscImageCreator dumps on a trial basis, and if it works out I'll add it as an official dump format on BetaArchive along with some additional guides. Please leave feedback or let me know if there are any issues.

Thank you!

Edit: I've updated the batchfiles with new switches, and added additional batchfiles for Safedisc and Securom titles. The scripts also remove unnecessary files from the final CD dumps making it smaller (deletes SCM and IMG file as these can be recreated using the included files).

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 PostPost subject: Re: DiscImageCreator dumps are now accepted        Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:00 am 
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It generated over 2 GB of data from one CD. I don't know why it generates the bin twice: one for the disc and then copies for each track. Also - what is the use for the scrambled SCM file?

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This fileset is simply a multipurpose set. If you have only a single session then the IMG and BIN will be identical, but if you're having multiple sessions, audio tracks etc then you will have a bin file for each track. All the BIN files combined will equal the IMG file.

The IMG file is used by the CloneCD .ccd file, the IMG file is used by the .CUE-file. The SCM file is a scrambled copy of the IMG file, i.e a raw copy of the track basically. It can be used to diagnose any track errors etc, but it's not something I will bother with. The SCM file can also be recreated manually if needed, same goes for the IMG file.

But for simplicity you can delete the SCM file and the IMG file, and upload the rest. I've updated the batchfiles to do this automatically now, along with some corrected switches.

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 PostPost subject: Re: DiscImageCreator dumps are now accepted        Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:10 am 
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I've updated the scripts with additional functionality and corrected switches.

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 PostPost subject: Re: DiscImageCreator dumps are now accepted        Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:11 pm 
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Any hints how to interpret the subError file? There are neither errors in c2Error and mainError. The CD itself has no scratches. (Is there any tag that will make this fragment shorter?).
Code:
LBA[000236, 0x000ec]: Track[01]: SubR[33]:[0x02] -> [0x00]
LBA[000236, 0x000ec]: Track[01]: SubV[81]:[0x02] -> [0x00]
LBA[000510, 0x001fe]: Track[01]: SubQ fixed using next subQ
LBA[000510, 0x001fe]: Track[01]: SubS[36]:[0x20] -> [0x00]
LBA[000510, 0x001fe]: Track[01]: SubT[48]:[0x20] -> [0x00]
LBA[000652, 0x0028c]: Track[01]: SubQ Reread [crc16 unmatch] -> NG. Fix manually
LBA[000652, 0x0028c]: Track[01]: SubQ[18]:[0x20] -> [0x00]
LBA[000652, 0x0028c]: Track[01]: SubP[06]:[0x20] -> [0x00]
LBA[002794, 0x00aea]: Track[01]: SubQ fixed using next subQ
LBA[002794, 0x00aea]: Track[01]: SubP[00]:[0x08] -> [0x00]
LBA[002836, 0x00b14]: Track[01]: SubP[09]:[0x02] -> [0x00]
LBA[002836, 0x00b14]: Track[01]: SubR[33]:[0x02] -> [0x00]
LBA[002836, 0x00b14]: Track[01]: SubV[81]:[0x02] -> [0x00]
LBA[002990, 0x00bae]: Track[01]: SubS[42]:[0x04] -> [0x00]
more on pastebin https://pastebin.com/aM17rxp2

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 PostPost subject: Re: DiscImageCreator dumps are now accepted        Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:26 pm 
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GL1zdA wrote:
Any hints how to interpret the subError file? There are neither errors in c2Error and mainError. The CD itself has no scratches. (Is there any tag that will make this fragment shorter?).
Code:
bruh sound effect #2
Dude could you please use pastebin for stuff as extremely long as this lol, it keeps crashing chrome on my phone every time i try to load this thread. There's like almost 2200 lines there

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 PostPost subject: Re: DiscImageCreator dumps are now accepted        Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:34 pm 
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GL1zdA wrote:
Any hints how to interpret the subError file? There are neither errors in c2Error and mainError. The CD itself has no scratches. (Is there any tag that will make this fragment shorter?).
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bruh sound effect #2
Dude could you please use pastebin for stuff as extremely long as this lol, it keeps crashing chrome on my phone every time i try to load this thread. There's like almost 2200 lines there

Sure, it just sucks when external services go down. That's why there's an image uploader on BA - because the image hosts were unreliable.

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 PostPost subject: Re: DiscImageCreator dumps are now accepted        Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:21 pm 
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GL1zdA wrote:
Any hints how to interpret the subError file? There are neither errors in c2Error and mainError. The CD itself has no scratches. (Is there any tag that will make this fragment shorter?).
Code:
LBA[000236, 0x000ec]: Track[01]: SubR[33]:[0x02] -> [0x00]
LBA[000236, 0x000ec]: Track[01]: SubV[81]:[0x02] -> [0x00]
LBA[000510, 0x001fe]: Track[01]: SubQ fixed using next subQ
LBA[000510, 0x001fe]: Track[01]: SubS[36]:[0x20] -> [0x00]
LBA[000510, 0x001fe]: Track[01]: SubT[48]:[0x20] -> [0x00]
LBA[000652, 0x0028c]: Track[01]: SubQ Reread [crc16 unmatch] -> NG. Fix manually
LBA[000652, 0x0028c]: Track[01]: SubQ[18]:[0x20] -> [0x00]
LBA[000652, 0x0028c]: Track[01]: SubP[06]:[0x20] -> [0x00]
LBA[002794, 0x00aea]: Track[01]: SubQ fixed using next subQ
LBA[002794, 0x00aea]: Track[01]: SubP[00]:[0x08] -> [0x00]
LBA[002836, 0x00b14]: Track[01]: SubP[09]:[0x02] -> [0x00]
LBA[002836, 0x00b14]: Track[01]: SubR[33]:[0x02] -> [0x00]
LBA[002836, 0x00b14]: Track[01]: SubV[81]:[0x02] -> [0x00]
LBA[002990, 0x00bae]: Track[01]: SubS[42]:[0x04] -> [0x00]
more on pastebin https://pastebin.com/aM17rxp2

You can run the command with /nq switch.

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I've once again updated the tools pack with an additional tool, ProtectionID. It may help you identify what kind of protection your CD has, and run the appropriate batch file accordingly. If you get a lot of SubQ errors like above then add /nq as a switch to the batchfile.

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 PostPost subject: Re: DiscImageCreator dumps are now accepted        Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:16 pm 
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It seems that you need a drive compatible with scramble mode to use DiscImageCreator. What kind of drive does this refer to?


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Yes, for dumping CDs you need one that supports scramble mode. But for DVDs you can use any drive. So if you can't dump CDs with DIC use Alcohol120% as usual.

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I would like to confirm this because it is not officially listed, but is it a drive that supports the recommended drive = scramble mode?


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A drive that supports the recommended drive??

Just try it, if it works then it should be fine.

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Recommended drive list
https://github.com/saramibreak/DiscImageCreator

CD: (Drives must be able to dump by scrambled mode and read lead-out and read lead-in).

PLEXTOR (No OEM Drive)
PX-760, PX-755, PX-716, PX-714, PX-712, PX-708, PX-704, Premium2, Premium, PX-W5224, PX-4824, PX-4012
Hitachi-LG
UH12NS30 (Combined offset minus disc only)
ASUS
BC-12D2HT (Combined offset minus disc only), BW-16D1HT (ditto)

CD: (Swappable drive) (This is the comfirmed drive list. Actually, many drive perhaps supports to swap)

Sony Optiarc
AD-7200 (Combined offset plus disc only)
TSSTcorp
TS-H353A (Combined offset plus disc only), TS-H352C (ditto)

DVD: All supported drive


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Check CRC
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Is there any advantage of this over MDF/MDS?


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More detailed metadata and checksums, you get proper ISOs and BINs with CUE/CCD files, and also compatibility with Redump etc to compare hashes with, something that will be integrated with the next version of the database.

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 PostPost subject: Re: DiscImageCreator dumps are now accepted        Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:49 am 
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I have tested DIC with a number of DVDs so far - seems to be successful in dealing with SecuROM v7 and ProtectDISC v8-v9 schemes. However, I have come across a protection scheme that seems to be specific to some Spanish titles from the 2000-2010, particularly to publishers Dinamic Multimedia and FX Interactive. These DVDs seem to have been pressed by the same manufacturer, Sonopress (later acquired by Arvato Entertainment).

The protection invalidates a number of contiguous sectors, same as RingPROTECH does, but it is just a single band, unlike LaserLock. You can see the band on the DVD with the naked aye. DIC chokes on these, despite being able to deal with RingPROTECH CDs - the scheme seems to not be exactly the same, though. There is a discussion in the Redfump forum about this protection: see http://forum.redump.org/topic/18916/ibm-pc-1x-new-with-ringprotech/.

Alcohol 120% seems to be able to dump these discs successfully, except for the exact value on the unreadable sectors. I have had some success using a Custom profile with Skip errors and the Advanced Sector Scanner options enabled, with the factor set to 10000. So far the dumps appear to install and work well, but maybe I have been lucky.


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Sounds good, I am guessing of course you mean CDs with SecuROM v7 and ProtectDISC, not DVDs ;).

If DIC chokes on this and won't successfully dump the disc then we'll use A120% for these, but since the issue is known to the users there may be a fix soon. I'll discuss it on their discord channel and check if there's any solution to successfully dump those.

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Is this (and A120) compatible with Windows Vista? My main computer's CD/DVD drive is broken, and a Vista PC is the only computer in my house to have a working drive.

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Why don't you try it? Your computer will not catch on fire....

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DiscImageCreator is perfect.

I was having problems copying mixed mode CDs (Discs with data and audio) using Alcohol 120% but now I can upload redump quality discs.


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DiscImageCreator is perfect.

It is only "perfect" if you have a supported drive, otherwise it's quite useless sadly... And those drives are worth their weight in gold on eBay

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