[Request] Help with tons of old Mac OS & software

[keldroth]

Hey all,

I've been working for a friend for a few months, and one of the things he's had me doing is selling things on eBay. What he gave me most recently to sell was a ton of old Mac Developer CD's and other vintage Mac software. When I search Google or other engines to try and research prices and rarity, this site is often linked to, so I thought I might get a little feedback from this community on what's rare/wanted/pricing etc.

Some of the CD's include:
*Macintosh System Software 7.0: The May 1990 Alpha Development Release
*Apple IIGS System Software 6.0: The Beta Release Fall 1991
and various OS releases like this going up to Mac OS X
*Rhapsody: The Yellow Box Edition for MS (I know it's MS)
*OpenDoc (Various Discs up to 6.0 I believe)
*ADC Developer CD's (I have a Majority of them from 1991 to 2002)
*Macintosh Technology Seed (Also have a Majority of them from 1996-2001)
*Computer Using Educators Conference (Have about 6 different discs of these)
*A few WWDC CD's (93-99)
*Some Apple Link
*Quicktime: The Beta Release
*Quicktime 1.0, 1.5, and 2.0 for Developers
*Other Various vintage Apple Software

Again any feedback on rarity/pricing/demand would be greatly appreciated. I still have a lot of sorting to do so if you have any questions about specific titles listed here or about others feel free and I will answer them ASAP

[Patrick]

What ADC Developer CDs do you have, specifically?

[keldroth]

What ADC Developer CDs do you have, specifically?

I'm currently sorting through them. So a list will be coming shortly hopefully. I know for a fact I have all 12 of the 1991 and I believe all of 1992 as well. Then I'm not sure. Will post a list ASAP though.

[keldroth]

Here is the list of them that I know of so far. The person having me sell them says he never threw any away so I will be going over there in a few days the next time I see him to look for more if some are missing.

Few notes:
1)If there are more ADC Developer titles other than the Dev CD series, I won't have a complete list of everything Apple Dev for probably a few days/a week since I do hold a regular day job and go to school.

2) I didn't start listing ones new in shrink wrap for awhile, because I recently started using Dragon: Naturally Speaking, and forgot to mention the few more that were new in wrap.

3) 2002 is the latest I saw for Developer CD series, if there are more after (E.G. If they just had discs such as Mac OS X 10.1 Dev release or something like that) let me know and I can try to sort through those as well.

Ok... Here it is:
List of ADC developer CD’s:
1991:
1) Developer Helper Volume 1: Phil and Dave’s excellent CD (X2, one is a white case sealed and in shrink wrap.)
2) Developer CD Series-Volume II Phil & Dave’s excellent CD: The Release Version
3) Developers CD Series-Volume III: A Disc Called Wanda
4) Developer CD Series-Volume IV: Discy Business
5) Developer CD Series-Volume V: Night of the Living Disc
6) Developer CD Series-volume VI: Gorillas in the Disc
7) Developer CD Series-Volume VII: Lord of the Files
8) Developer CD Series-Volume VIII: Desperately Seeking Seven
9) Apple Developer CD Series-Volume IX: Code Warrior
10) Developer CD Series-Volume X: on a Clear Day You Can CD Forever! (X2)
11) Developer CD Series-Volume XI: The Silence of the ROMs (X2)

1992:
Developer CD Series January 1992: The Winter of Our Disc Content (X2)
Developer CD Series February 1992: 20,000 Leagues under the CD (X2)
Developer CD Series March 1992: the Hound of Bitmapsville
Developer CD Series April 1992: Hex, Drives, and Videotape
Developer CD Series May 1992: the BYTE Stuff
Developer CD Series June 1992: ROMin Holiday
Developer CD Series July 1992: Butch ASCII and the Runtime Code
Developer CD Series August 1992: Act to the Future (X2)
Developer CD Series September 1992: a ROM with a View
Developer CD Series October 1992: the Hexorcist
Developer CD Series November\December 1992: Wayne’s GWorld

1993:
Developer CD Series January 1993: the Post Man Always Clicks Twice
Developer CD Series February 1993: New Hack City
Developer CD Series March 1993: Other People’s Memory
Developer CD Series April 1993: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series May 1993: Tool Chest
Developer CD Series June 1993: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series July 1993: System Software Edition (inside of a CD Caddy)
Developer CD Series August 1993: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series October 1993: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series December 1993: Reference Library Edition

1994:
Developer CD series January 1994: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series March 1994: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series April 1994: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series May 1994 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series June 1994: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series July 1994: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series August 1994: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series September 1994: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series October 1994: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series November 1994: Tool Chest Edition
1995:
Developer CD Series January 1995: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series February 1995: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series March 1995: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series April 1995: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series May 1995: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series June 1995: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series July 1995: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series August 1995: Tool Chest Edition
Developers CD Series September 1995: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series October 1995: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series November 1995: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series December 1995 Reference Library Edition

1996:
Developer CD Series January 1996: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series January 1996: Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series February 1996: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series March 1996: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series April 1996: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series April 1996: Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series May 1996: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series June 1996: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series July 1996: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series Disc Two: July 1996 System Software Edition
Developer CD Series July 1996: Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series September 1996: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series October 1996: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series November 1996: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series December 1996: Reference Library Edition

1997:
Developer CD Series January 1997: Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series February 1997: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series February 1997: System Software
Developer CD Series March 1997: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series April 1997: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series April 1997: Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series May 1997: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series June 1997: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series July 1997: Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series August 1997: System Software Edition (Is in a CD Sleeve)
Developer CD Series August 1997: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series September 1997: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series October 1997: Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series November 1997: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series November 1997: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series December 1997: Reference Library Edition

1998:
Developer CD Series January 1998: Mac OS SDK Edition (New in Shrinkwrap)
Developer CD Series January 1998: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series February 1998: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series March 1998: Reference Library Edition (New in Shrinkwrap)
Developer CD Series April 1998: Mac OS SDK Edition (New in Shrinkwrap)
Developer CD Series May 1998: Tool Chest Edition (New in Shrinkwrap)
Developer CD Series June 1998: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series July 1998: System Software\Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series August 1998: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series October 1998: System Software Edition (Not in Original Case [Jewel Case])
Developer CD Series September 1998: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series October 1998: Mac OS SDK Edition (New in Shrinkwrap)
Developer CD Series November 1998: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series December 1998: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series December 1998: Sysrem Software (on face of cover system spelled correctly, but on edge of case is actually spelled Sysrem software)

1999:
Developer CD Series January 1999: Sysrem Software (Same Spelling Error Here)
Developer CD Series January 1999: Mac OS SDK
Developer CD Series February 1999: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series March 1999 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series April 1999 Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series April 1999: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series May 1999: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series May 1999: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series June 1999 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series June 1999 System Software Edition
Developer CD Series July 1999: Mac OS SDK
Developer CD Series July 1999: System Software
Developer CD Series August 1999: System Software
Developer CD Series August 1999: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series September 1999 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series November 1999: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series November 1999: System Software
Developer CD Series December 1999 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series December 1999 System Software

2000:
Developer CD Series January 2000 Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series February 2000 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series March 2000 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series April 2000 Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series May 2000 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series June 2000 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series July 2000 Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series August 2000 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series September 2000 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series November 2000 Tool Chest Edition

2001:
Developer CD Series January 2001 Mac OS SDK Edition (New in Shrinkwrap)
Developer CD Series March 2001 System Software Volume I
Developer CD Series March 2001 System Software Volume II
Developer CD Series March 2001 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series April 2001 Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series May 2001 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series June 2001 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series July 2001 Mac OS SDK Edition (New in Shrinkwrap)
Developer CD Series August 2001 Tool Chest Edition (New in Shrinkwrap)
Developer CD Series September 2001 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series November 2001 System Software Volume I (X2, Second in Sleeve)
Developer CD Series November 2001 System Software Volume II
Developer CD Series November 2001 System Software Volume III
Developer CD Series November 2001 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series December 2001 Reference Library Edition

2002:
Developer CD Series February 2002 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series March 2002 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series May 2002 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series June 2002 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series October 2002
Extras: (These are CD’s that in the top left corner said Apple Developer Group but did not specifically say developer CD series)
AppleScript: The Beta Release
AOCE: The Beta Release: Also Includes Updated AppleScript Beta Software
AOCE: Beta July 1993
WWDC: 1993
QuickTime: The Beta Release

Current Disc Total: 156

[keldroth]

Here is the list of the Current Tech Seeds I have as well:

ADC Tech Seeds:
*Note: All of these tech seeds are in sleeves or jewel cases; if there are original cases none of these are in them.
1995:
December
1996:
January, February, March, April, May, July, August, September, October, November, December
1997:
January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August\September, October, December
1998:
January, April\May, August, September, November, December
1999:
January, February, March, May, June, July, September, October
2000:
February, March, May, June, July, August (X2), September, November
2001:
January, February, March, May Mac OS X server beta seed version 3.0, May, May Netboot, June, July, August Mac OS X 10.1 Build 5G15 Developer CD (X2), August Mac OS X 10.1 Build 5G27 User Install CD, August, September, October\November, November 16th
2002:
April

59 Different Discs, 61 including doubles.

All total so far: (no doubles):215
With Doubles: (224, I forgot to include a total including doubles on the Dev CD series)

[keldroth]

Here is the last hoorah of list. I took it into account on the count totals but I accidentally added the beta quicktime and the WWDC '93 in this list

List of remaining Apple discs:
Mac OS:
Macintosh System Software 7.0 The May 1990 Alpha Development Release (X2)
Macintosh System Software 7.0 the Beta Release October 1990
Macintosh System Software 7.0 the Beta Release February 1991
Macintosh System Software Release 7.0 Beta 4 Northwest Ops (X2, both are in normal jewel cases and one has a booklet titled “Taking Advantage of System 7.0 Where to Start”)
Macintosh System Software 7 The May 1991 Golden Master Release
Macintosh system 7.0 CD-ROM
System Seven Release 7.1 the Beta Release
Mac OS 8 Driver Development Kit Version 0.4 (in a CD sleeve)
Mac OS 8 Tour (new in shrinkwrap)
Mac OS 8.5 Interactive Demo (New in Shrinkwrap)
Mac OS 9 (Featuring Sherlock 2)
Mac OS X Release Candidate Installation Confidential (X2, In Sleeves)
Mac OS X Developer Preview 4 (In Sleeve)
Mac OS X Version 10.0.3 (in Sleeve)
Mac OS X Developer Tools Includes WebObjects 5 (in sleeve)
Mac OS X Version 10.1.3 Developer Tools (has two discs. Mac OS X version 10.1.3 and Mac OS X developer tools)
Various Apple OS:
Apple IIGS System Software 6.0 The Beta Release Fall 1991
Rhapsody Developer Release: Yellow Box For Windows NT\95 (in Sleeve with Original Seal)
Specific Model Discs: (All in sleeves)
iMac Software Install for DV Models SSW Version 9.0
iMac Software Restore for DV Models SSW Version 9.0
Power Mac G4 Software Resource SSW Version 9.0
Power Macintosh G3 Software Install or Restore SSW 8.5.1
OpenDoc:
OpenDoc with SOM Developer Release (Sealed in Shrinkwrap)
OpenDoc Component Software Toolkit For Macintosh Developer Release 2 with Demo Parts
An Interactive Tour of OpenDoc Component Software (X2, both in shrinkwrap)
And Interactive Tour of OpenDoc Component Software Updated with Cyber Dog
OpenDoc Component Software Toolkit For Macintosh Developer Release 3
OpenDoc Component Software Toolkit For Macintosh Developer Release 4 (X2)
OpenDoc Developer Release Five and Cyber Dog Internet Component Toolkit (X2, both in shrinkwrap)
OpenDoc Developer Release 6 (X2, one in shrinkwrap)
Apple link:
Apple Link CD Beta 1.0 (in Jewel Case)
Apple Link CD Sample Edition
Apple Link CD January 1993
Apple Link CD April 1993
Apple Link CD July 1993
Apple Link CD October 1993
Apple Link CD January 1994
Apple Link CD April 1994
WWDC:
WWDC 93
WWDC 94 (jewel case)
WWDC 95 (in Jewel case)
WWDC 96 (in Jewel case)
WWDC 97 (in sleeve)
WWDC 98 (in Jewel case)
Media Toolkit:
Media Toolkit Fall 1992
Media Toolkit Spring 1993
Setup Disks: (All Have the Same Graphic Cover)
CD ROM Setup Disc (X5, two have original seal)
Apple Macintosh CD: Power Macintosh 5260\120 (Original Seal Not in Place but on Sleeve)
Apple Macintosh CD: Power Macintosh 7200, 7500, 7600, 8500 and 9500 series (in Jewel case)
Apple MPEG Media System (Has Original Seal)
Apple reference and presentations libraries:
Apple Reference and Presentations Libraries CD Version 5.0 Reseller Edition
Apple Reference and Presentations Libraries CD Spring 93 Partner Edition
Apple Reference and Presentations Library Winter 93 Partner Edition
Education Integration CD’s:
Macintosh Educational Software Guides: the CD (X2, One in Shrinkwrap)
The Apple Learning Disc A HyperCard Collection for Education
Teaching, Learning & Technology a Planning Guide (X2)
Curriculum Integration Guide Spring 1992 K-12 Science & Mathematics (X2, One in Shrinkwrap, but That One Has Slight Crack on Front)
Apple Education Resource CD Only One Fall 1993
Product Training:
100 Macintosh Fundamentals 2.1: Student Edition (X4, one is in a 150 jewel case and none have a front graphic)
111 Spring 1991 New Product Training: Self-Paced Edition
150 Macintosh System Software V7 .0 Introduction and Support Revision 1.0: Leader’s Edition
New Product Training Apple Confidential August 1993: Techlaration Of Independence Second Edition (in a Sleeve)
QuickTime:
QuickTime The Beta Release
QuickTime Version 1.0 for Developers
QuickTime Version 1.5 for Developers
QuickTime 2.0 Developer Kit for Macintosh and Windows
QuickTime VR Authoring Studio (in Generic Jewel Case with Serial Number Written on Disc)
Unknown Sorting: (This Essentially Means I Didn’t Know How to Sort Them)
Apple Intro News Apple CD-ROM Title Sampler
Technical Support Information Source Sampler: April 1990
Apple CD-ROM Explorer (X2, One in Simple Jewel Case)
Apple Guide Authoring Kit (a Phone Number and Name Are Penciled into the Front)
Sign on to EWorld! Apple’s online service (X2, both never opened)
Workgroup Server Software (X2, one has a number written on inside
Customer Services Support Information (in CD Sleeve)
Apple Network Assistant (Engineer Jewel Case)
IMovie 2 Version 2.1 Build for Mac OS X
Apple Guide Custom Solutions CD (Looks to Be in Generic CD Sleeve
Support Navigator Apple Field Release Edition Version 1.1
Apple QuickTake 200 Software for Mac OS (in a CD caddy)
Apple Webpage Construction Kit (in Generic CD Case)
Apple Hardware Test for Diagnosing Hardware Problems IBook SW Version 1.2 (in CD Sleeve)
Apple Network Administrator Toolkit 2.0 (Sleeve Still Has Seal)
AppleShare IP 6.0 (in CD Sleeve)
Apple Displays Software (in Jewel Case)
Service Source: November 1995
New Product Information March 1993
Mac Test Pro Diagnostic CD September 1998 (X6, All Have Original Seal)
Introduction Jan/Feb 1993 (in generic CD sleeve)
Apple Chronicle: 1992
Arple Apple Reference Performance & Learning Expert: January 1998 Provider Edition
MacApp 2.0
The 1997 Apple Mac Advocate CD-ROM (X3, 2 in Shrinkwrap)
Mac Advocate II (in Jewel Case)
Macintosh Products Guide Winter 2000 (Never Opened)
Marketing Tools for Mac OS X Business Essentials for Developers (Never Opened)
Developer Central & Net Innovators: MacWorld Expo January 2000
Virtual Developer Center Sponsored by Apple Computer Inc. and Mac Tech Magazine
Software Not Produced by Apple:
Macromedia (New in Shrinkwrap)
Adobe Type On-Call 3.0 Macintosh Version
Adobe Type On-Call 4.0 Universal Version
Adobe PageMaker 6.0 Deluxe CD-ROM Macintosh Version
Adobe PageMaker 6.0 Macintosh Version Instructor Notes
Adobe Photoshop 4.0 Macintosh Version
Microsoft Office 2001: Mac (Not for Retail or OEM Distribution, License Key Is Written on Disc)
Claris Software Product Evaluation CD For Mac OS and Windows Platforms
Macintosh Showcase
Smart Sound Version 1.6.6 Four Mac OS (in CD Sleeve)
Code Warrior (Third Disc Is Missing)
Roberta Williams’ Phantasmagoria
Dragon Naturally Speaking Version 2.02 (in a CD Caddy)
Dragon Power Secretary Version 2.0.7 Four Mac OS (Also Has Dragon Power Secretary 2.0.7 ClarisWorks Merge Key 3.5 inch floppy)
Now Startup Manager Version 7.04 Mac OS (new in sealed)
MacWorld and America Online present Mac OS 8 Tour
Mac addict presents: Mac OS 8, A Real, Live, Working Demo!
BMUG Fall 1996 Newsletter
Ziff-Davis Mac OS System Benchmark Mac Bench 4.0
Almanac (Four Discs, Each Individual Is in a Jewel Case)
Computer Using Educators (CUE): The First CD (X2)
CUE volume 2 (X2)
CUE Volume 3 Mac Version (X3)
CUE Volume 5 DOS and Macintosh Version
CUE Volume 6 Windows and Mac OS (Unmarked on Disc, in Generic Jewel Case)
CUE Volume 7 Windows and Mac OS (unmarked on disc, in generic Jewel case)
CUE Volume 8 Windows and Mac OS
NECC 1995 (new in shrinkwrap)
NECC 1996 sampler
Kineticon (no volume number but made in 2000)
The MacWorld exposition CD
The MacWorld Resource CD: February 1993 Volume 1 Issue Three

344 Different Discs total (Unless I find more when I go back to look again)
381 Total Discs in set (Unless I find more when I go back to look again)

[trustBA]

Upload all of the discs below! Read Pwned's guide for creating CD images from CD-ROM.

What I want it:
Developer CD Series-Volume XI: The Silence of the ROMs (X2)
Developer CD Series February 1993: New Hack City
Developer CD Series July 1993: System Software Edition (inside of a CD Caddy)
Developer CD Series July 1994: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series February 1997: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series February 1997: System Software
Developer CD Series April 1997: System Software Edition
Developer CD Series October 1997: Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series December 1997: Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series January 1998: System Software Edition (you uploaded this, but you gave me a dump of CD contents instead of CD image )
Developer CD Series May 1998: Tool Chest Edition (New in Shrinkwrap)
Developer CD Series August 1998: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series June 1999 System Software Edition
Developer CD Series November 1999: Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series January 2000 Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series February 2000 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series April 2000 Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series July 2000 Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series November 2000 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series January 2001 Mac OS SDK Edition (New in Shrinkwrap)
Developer CD Series March 2001 System Software Volume I
Developer CD Series March 2001 System Software Volume II
Developer CD Series March 2001 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series April 2001 Mac OS SDK Edition
Developer CD Series May 2001 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series June 2001 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series July 2001 Mac OS SDK Edition (New in Shrinkwrap)
Developer CD Series August 2001 Tool Chest Edition (New in Shrinkwrap)
Developer CD Series September 2001 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series November 2001 System Software Volume I (X2, Second in Sleeve)
Developer CD Series November 2001 System Software Volume II
Developer CD Series November 2001 System Software Volume III
Developer CD Series November 2001 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series December 2001 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series February 2002 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series March 2002 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series May 2002 Tool Chest Edition
Developer CD Series June 2002 Reference Library Edition
Developer CD Series October 2002
ADC Tech Seed CD January 1998
ADC Tech Seed CD April/May 1998
ADC Tech Seed CD August 1998
ADC Tech Seed CD September 1998
ADC Tech Seed CD March 1999
ADC Tech Seed CD May 1999
ADC Tech Seed CD June 1999
ADC Tech Seed CD July 1999
ADC Tech Seed CD September 1999
ADC Tech Seed CD October 1999
AppleScript: The Beta Release
AOCE: The Beta Release: Also Includes Updated AppleScript Beta Software
AOCE: Beta July 1993
WWDC: 1993
QuickTime: The Beta Release
Macintosh System Software 7.0 The May 1990 Alpha Development Release (X2)
Macintosh System Software 7.0 the Beta Release October 1990
Macintosh System Software 7.0 the Beta Release February 1991
Macintosh System Software Release 7.0 Beta 4 Northwest Ops (X2, both are in normal jewel cases and one has a booklet titled “Taking Advantage of System 7.0 Where to Start”)
Macintosh System Software 7 The May 1991 Golden Master Release
Macintosh system 7.0 CD-ROM
System Seven Release 7.1 the Beta Release
Mac OS 8 Driver Development Kit Version 0.4 (in a CD sleeve)
Mac OS 8 Tour (new in shrinkwrap)
Mac OS 8.5 Interactive Demo (New in Shrinkwrap)
CD ROM Setup Disc (X5, two have original seal)
Apple Macintosh CD: Power Macintosh 7200, 7500, 7600, 8500 and 9500 series (in Jewel case)
Apple MPEG Media System (Has Original Seal)

[mrpijey]

He has made it clear that none of it will be dumped but sold, I've tried to make out some kind of deal to buy the lot but so far nothing. I think this entire collection will be lost to a private collector.

[trustBA]

He has made it clear that none of it will be dumped but sold, I've tried to make out some kind of deal to buy the lot but so far nothing. I think this entire collection will be lost to a private collector.

Well looks like he have some Developer CDs and several Apple discs that were not available to the FTP, but his plans is to investigate the rarity of item, what he want and what price he will list for the collector. The most rare item is the Apple IIGS Beta CD. Also, he have contacted me about my request for the Dev.CD Jan 98 SSW, sent me MediaFire links and I complain that he doesn't use CD imager application.

[keldroth]

He has made it clear that none of it will be dumped but sold, I've tried to make out some kind of deal to buy the lot but so far nothing. I think this entire collection will be lost to a private collector.

I apologize if there was bad communication between us.

Yes I did enforce that I had no intent on dumping any of it. That was and is to ensure that value remains in the collection but I did realize that essentially nothing is free so I dumped at least one ISO for TrustBA for their patience with me. Also I do not know if it was an addendum to the forum rules applied in September or if I failed to read them correctly (which is actually what i assume), but I do apologize for starting this thread if discussing this collection is breaking posting rules or if I have upset anyone.

As to your email to me, I actually did not save it in my inbox and it was deleted. Iirc I think I had said I still wanted to make an absolute complete list before considering any offers, although I could be mistaken there. To keep this post from being a mile long, I have put the document into a mediafire link and have updated it. My "employer", lucky for me, is very patient with me as well.

Here is that link: http://www.mediafire.com/download/oay7t ... vised.docx

I would love to talk about value of collection and I will defer to mrpijey or admin on the best way to proceed in the direction of how to deal with offers. My own personal preference is to sell the lot as a whole or at least in complete sets IE: An entire year of developer set by year as opposed to just a particular disc.

[mrpijey]

In my personal opinion the value of this collection is not diminished by dumping the discs, as the value lies in having and owning the original discs (and working such). But as you know very well, the contents may at any time be destroyed (even original discs deteriorate over time, not to mention accidents) and one day all your precious data will be lost. BetaArchive is here for the preservation of these old tidbits so we should try to collect and save these discs if possible. And any collector that purchase this set will still have it in its original form, with the original print and all. Same goes for floppies or any kind of digital collectors item. An original floppy set of say, Windows 1.01 would still be valued very high, regardless to the fact that the OS exists everywhere online as dumped img files. But how many would buy WIndows 1.01 on original discs if they knew that the discs were unreadable?

Just as a basic (and perhaps somewhat inaccurate comparison), Shakespeare's original writings are valued to the billions today, yet everyone can read his plays, i.e they are freely copied. The originals however maintain their historical and collection value. The same should be considered with software. And if no one except an extremely small amount of collectors could read his works, do you think anyone would even know anything about him today? Apply this logic to any other collectors item and you will know this is true (paintings, baseball cards, whatever). I think the value would be increased by dumping and sharing these, as more people would be aware of them, and more people would seek out and want the original discs. Originals has always been more valuable than copies and this will not change because the contents are available online.

As a preserver I think not dumping these tidbits would be a disservice to this (and any other) community that likes to learn and tinker with old software. One day it will be lost forever, and for what? So some collector at some point can have some unreadable plastic discs... by then it will be worth nothing. And the original software company (in this case Apple) have no interest in preserving these themselves as they are only motivated by greed and see no profit in sharing these with the community. However, as I've mentioned before to others, I would be willing to pay for the service of having these dumped as I can pay for both shipping a drive back and forth to store the dumped contents, or (but not in this case) pay for shipping of the media so I can have it dumped, scanned and returned to the owner. Personally I am not interested in the original media, only the contents and to have it properly preserved.

But I am not going to try to force you to share these, you can do whatever you want with your collection and I hope you get your values worth for them. But it will be a loss to everyone else if these get permanently lost as everyone will lose, even the collectors.

Good luck with your sale!

[ExplicitNuM5]

Can you upload the Rhapsody Yellow Box for Microsoft Windows? Windowsers might love it, just as I would love to see it.
Thanks in advance.

Good fortune to the eBay Auction!!!

[Wheatley]

Yellowbox is on the ftp already.

[blackholemac]

Oddly enough...I'm going to find myself begging here. I would really really like to somehow get a copy of all the October and November 2001 Apple Developer CDs. I am mainly interested in getting the full version localized versions of Mac OS 9.2.1 that are on these. I am not seeking the original by any means and hope very much that keldroth has a successful sale.

I am willing to offer any Mac-based expertise assistance that I can to keldroth that a long term Apple-enthusiast and certified technician can offer which probably isn't much more than anyone on here has offered. In addition, I will gladly pay postage and duplication costs or some temporary hosting costs to download the disc images of these. I'm not even that picky on how he provides imaging...my preference is Toast images, but .dmgs are fine as well.

Thank you in advance and feel free to PM me with any questions.

[keldroth]

To mrpijey,
Thank you so much for the info you have provided me, both in forum and in our email transactions, you have given me so much to work with and I understand your line of thinking regarding the value of the physical discs as opposed to a copy somewhere in existence i.e.: Apple 1 emulation as opposed to the real board.

To anyone else interested in the dumping, I guess I have no real way of enforcing it unless someone knows a way to "legal up" some papers so to speak, but I am willing to sell the collection at at a considerable discount to any collector who would agree to dump any non sealed BA related content not already on the FTP should it be requested.

I am also avoiding eBay just for the time being that I want to give BA a good amount of time to see if anyone wants it, and if a collector willing to dump wanted it, I was willing to post it on ebay at the discounted price for them.