POSSIBLE LEAK: Windows Neptune 5056

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Battler wrote:- LongerHorn: How do you explain the December 1999 certificate with a file date of May 1999?
Battler, I can't. This isn't a leak from my original media, and I won't know until my friend ships the disc. Sorry :(

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Battler wrote:- LongerHorn: How do you explain the December 1999 certificate with a file date of May 1999?
Occam's Razor.
Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected.
The answer with the fewest assumptions is that Time Travel is possible, and in order to speed up their compilation times, Microsoft have built Build Labs that exist in a craft capable of travel through time.

Much more likely that someone lying on the internet, if you ask me.

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LongerHorn wrote:I won't know until my friend ships the disc. Sorry :(
I don't think "your friend" has a disc. It was initially uploaded to some kid's forum, probably to troll said kid. (he's been permabanned from BA 3 times in a period of several days, I know some known trolls within the beta community knew about him.) Interesting that you fell for it aswell...
http://releasearchive.boards.net/thread ... built-5056

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The Distractor wrote:
LongerHorn wrote:I won't know until my friend ships the disc. Sorry :(
I don't think "your friend" has a disc. It was initially uploaded to some kid's forum, probably to troll said kid. (he's been permabanned from BA 3 times in a period of several days, I know some known trolls within the beta community knew about him.) Interesting that you fell for it aswell...
http://releasearchive.boards.net/thread ... built-5056
I did not fall for anything. This was messaged to me by an anonymous source who I actually know. I'm not blind to the fact it could be fake...

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hounsell wrote:Much more likely that someone lying on the internet, if you ask me.
Ah well, it's always worth an analysis to see if we didn't stumple upon another Cougar 28.
I'm still quite excited. If it turns out to be fake, I guess everything's back to normal.

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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK: Windows Neptune 5056

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Don't worry, Longerhorn. You won't need to come up with any explanations for the validity or lack thereof. You won't get a disc. The disc is a lie. The build is a lie. The cake is a lie.
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Now, now, lads. Let's calm down and not break rules.

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Wheatley wrote:Don't worry, Longerhorn. You won't need to come up with any explanations for the validity or lack thereof. You won't get a disc. The disc is a lie. The build is a lie. The cake is a lie.
For the community's sake, I hope you're wrong :P
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Of course the cake is a lie!

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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK: Windows Neptune 5056

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LongerHorn wrote:
Wheatley wrote:Don't worry, Longerhorn. You won't need to come up with any explanations for the validity or lack thereof. You won't get a disc. The disc is a lie. The build is a lie. The cake is a lie.
For the community's sake, I hope you're wrong :P
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Of course the cake is a lie!
I wonder if your "source" can send you a photo of his disk and you post it here. Just wondering. :)
James wrote:I wonder how you would explain the fact that during setup, "winver" says the OS is licensed to William H. Gates III / Microsoft Corp... that's pretty unusual, don't you think? :p
See this topic: http://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31194

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LongerHorn wrote:For the community's sake, I hope you're wrong :P
lol no.

Wheatley has been a valuable member of our community, and I would NOT expect him to lie like that.

I'm pretty sure the disc doesn't even exist anyway...
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DiskingRound wrote:
LongerHorn wrote:
Wheatley wrote:Don't worry, Longerhorn. You won't need to come up with any explanations for the validity or lack thereof. You won't get a disc. The disc is a lie. The build is a lie. The cake is a lie.
For the community's sake, I hope you're wrong :P
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Of course the cake is a lie!
I wonder if your "source" can send you a photo of his disk and you post it here. Just wondering. :)
You break the alleged vehicle the in which alleged disc is allegedly transported at this exact moment.
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DiskingRound wrote: I wonder if your "source" can send you a photo of his disk and you post it here. Just wondering. :)
See this topic: http://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31194
Good idea. I'll message him about that. he hasn't replied to my previous message, and I don't think I'll hear from him until morning.

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LongerHorn wrote:Good idea. I'll message him about that. he hasn't replied to my previous message, and I don't think I'll hear from him until morning.
You know, if you really wanted to impress us with that build, you could have gotten ALL that information from day one...
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK: Windows Neptune 5056

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I wouldn't wait for him if I were you. At least the cake was real in the end of Portal 1. This, however is still as fake as it gets. A lie, in other words. This build is 5111 with modified build numbers and file dates. Anyone who cares enough to whip out file comparison tools will know. Battler also presented clear evidence of this being fake.
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Will anyone post some screenshots of the desktop? Or anything else other than words or setup?
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yourepicfailure wrote:Will anyone post some screenshots of the desktop? Or anything else other than words or setup?
I would if VMware Tools of PCEM-X would cooperate with this build.
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Windows OS wrote:
yourepicfailure wrote:Will anyone post some screenshots of the desktop? Or anything else other than words or setup?
I would if VMware Tools of PCEM-X would cooperate with this build.
PCem-X is an accurate emulation of hardware... you don't use VMWare Tools... you get the actual drivers from the original hardware manufacturer... like ATi... :/

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James wrote: PCem-X is an accurate emulation of hardware... you don't use VMWare Tools... you get the actual drivers from the original hardware manufacturer... like ATi... :/
Yeah, but so far, I'm having problems with this build on PCem-X. I'll keep working on it.
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK: Windows Neptune 5056

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Looks like I'll have to waste the rest of my tiny drive(8gb, 90% full) to md5 the files.
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK: Windows Neptune 5056

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The files iyuv_32.dll and tsbyuv.dll in the DRIVER.CAB cabinet of this 5056 have build number 5111. More evidence for fakery.

Edit: And tosdvd.sys in the same cabinet has build number 5095.
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Overdoze wrote:
xZEROx wrote:I was under the impression that Neptune had only one build ever compiled from source?
We know at least 2 builds were made. Aside from 5111.1, there's also a 5111.6 which was also probably distributed to someone.
Build 5111.6 disk picture for reference:
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK: Windows Neptune 5056

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Here you go:
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I feel like if it is obvious that this build is fake, just everything from 5111 is here, AutoUpdate or even the same Activity Centers. There isn't any difference except some changed build numbers.

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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK: Windows Neptune 5056

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Exactly, Valerio. This *is* 5111.
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK: Windows Neptune 5056

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Just looking through the files in the ISO make me believe more and more this 'build' is fake.
MD5's coming up. If you guys also want sha256's just ask.
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK: Windows Neptune 5056

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Valerio wrote:Here you go:
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I feel like if it is obvious that this build is fake, just everything from 5111 is here, AutoUpdate or even the same Activity Centers. There isn't any difference except some changed build numbers.
That's what I originally thought, so I came here for help. It's sad to think a close friend was lying, or maybe someone was lying to him. This is a very elaborate fake, nevertheless.

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