Whistler 2415 question

[VoodooMystic]

Does anybody know if 2415 (the first known build to feature an early Luna) is in a usable form anymore? Like, do any private collectors / traders happen to have it? I'm not asking for a leak, but just to see if it exists in the hands of anyone outside of Microsoft. It's probably my most favorite Windows build because of how it has a Windows 7-style clock, plus I love that legacy Windows logo on the start button, and the glow the start menu has on the log off / power button.

Offtopic Comment

Oh, and as a curiosity, were there any builds of any version of Windows which were lost by collectors, due to hard drive crashes / accidents? I'm curious.

[hounsell]

I've certainly not heard of it outside of Microsoft, and I don't believe that it's a likely candidate to have made it outside of Microsoft either.

There's certainly been cases of individuals losing unleaked copies of Windows. I can't recall any remotely verifiable cases where that person has been the only person with a copy. In such circumstances, you tend to get the hang of making sure everything is redundant.

[coltonspleen]

Does anybody know if 2415 (the first known build to feature an early Luna) is in a usable form anymore? Like, do any private collectors / traders happen to have it? I'm not asking for a leak, but just to see if it exists in the hands of anyone outside of Microsoft. It's probably my most favorite Windows build because of how it has a Windows 7-style clock, plus I love that legacy Windows logo on the start button, and the glow the start menu has on the log off / power button.

Offtopic Comment

Oh, and as a curiosity, were there any builds of any version of Windows which were lost by collectors, due to hard drive crashes / accidents? I'm curious.

Certainly, any REAL collector would use a backup system, rendering the offtopic comment almost unnecessary.

[Courage]

Certainly, any REAL collector would use a backup system, rendering the offtopic comment almost unnecessary.

Offtopic Comment

You forget that collectors are also human, and backup systems can also fail. Think about the many historical documents lost over the years due to complete accidents. This guy is curious about unleaked builds, and he asked a perfectly valid question about them.

[MS-GIL]

I have never seen this build and it sounds like something that never made its way out of Microsoft but it sounds amazing

[DiskingRound]

This build was shown publicly at CES 2001 (other examples of conference builds include: 2222, 4050, etc.). These demo builds very rarely leak, but it would be very cool if we had this.

[coltonspleen]

Guys, take a look at the clock portion of the taskbar. It's RADICALLY different. Shows both the time and the day of the week, not just the time.

[Roo_the_Vickty]

Coz its bigger by few px than ordinary one

[betaluva]

Why does this build use Luna, 2417 does not have Luna..

[Courage]

Why does this build use Luna, 2417 does not have Luna..

Different labs. This build is from Lab06, very well known for other builds like this. (see 4015.lab06 or 4042)

[Roo_the_Vickty]

Shell labs are always step ahead of ui than others

[MS-GIL]

I would love to get my hands on that. I love that it has the legacy logo. I wonder, if it were to be leaked, where you'd find such a beauty.

[VoodooMystic]

Exactly, hence why I said it's a "Windows 7" style, though the date shows the day instead of the x/x/xxxx format 7 used.

[KevinIsVeryKawaii]

I hope It get's leaked. It looks like an interesting build.

[user99672]

Does anybody know if 2415 (the first known build to feature an early Luna) is in a usable form anymore? Like, do any private collectors / traders happen to have it? I'm not asking for a leak, but just to see if it exists in the hands of anyone outside of Microsoft. It's probably my most favorite Windows build because of how it has a Windows 7-style clock, plus I love that legacy Windows logo on the start button, and the glow the start menu has on the log off / power button.

Offtopic Comment

Oh, and as a curiosity, were there any builds of any version of Windows which were lost by collectors, due to hard drive crashes / accidents? I'm curious.

Certainly, any REAL collector would use a backup system, rendering the offtopic comment almost unnecessary.

Surely you have met and documented every "collector", and ensured that they have complex RAID setups with offsite tape backups. You should grow up from the no true scotsman crap.

[coltonspleen]

Does anybody know if 2415 (the first known build to feature an early Luna) is in a usable form anymore? Like, do any private collectors / traders happen to have it? I'm not asking for a leak, but just to see if it exists in the hands of anyone outside of Microsoft. It's probably my most favorite Windows build because of how it has a Windows 7-style clock, plus I love that legacy Windows logo on the start button, and the glow the start menu has on the log off / power button.

Offtopic Comment

Oh, and as a curiosity, were there any builds of any version of Windows which were lost by collectors, due to hard drive crashes / accidents? I'm curious.

Certainly, any REAL collector would use a backup system, rendering the offtopic comment almost unnecessary.

Surely you have met and documented every "collector", and ensured that they have complex RAID setups with offsite tape backups. You should grow up from the no true scotsman crap.

That's what I meant by almost, user99672.

[user99672]

Does anybody know if 2415 (the first known build to feature an early Luna) is in a usable form anymore? Like, do any private collectors / traders happen to have it? I'm not asking for a leak, but just to see if it exists in the hands of anyone outside of Microsoft. It's probably my most favorite Windows build because of how it has a Windows 7-style clock, plus I love that legacy Windows logo on the start button, and the glow the start menu has on the log off / power button.

Offtopic Comment

Oh, and as a curiosity, were there any builds of any version of Windows which were lost by collectors, due to hard drive crashes / accidents? I'm curious.

Certainly, any REAL collector would use a backup system, rendering the offtopic comment almost unnecessary.

Surely you have met and documented every "collector", and ensured that they have complex RAID setups with offsite tape backups. You should grow up from the no true scotsman crap.

That's what I meant by almost, user99672.

If that's the case, you should've known not to say "any real collector would do $x $y $z". Educate Yourself.