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== Recent edits ==
I have questions about your recent changes made to the [[Windows:Visual Styles|Windows Visual Styles]], and [[Windows:Visual Styles:Windows Classic|Windows Classic]] articles.
*Technically speaking, Windows Aero is not included in Windows 8. Aero, as defined by Microsoft, "features a translucent glass design with subtle window animations and new window colors."
*Although using Windows Classic does offer performance benefits, why didn't you just add to what was written instead of deleting it?
([[User:Maza|Maza]] ([[User talk:Maza|talk]]) 02:59, 8 June 2013 (GMT))
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*Aero is in Windows 8. But not in the exact form we know it from earlier Windows versions. It has been redesigned to better fit Metro. Yes, the glass is gone, but that's because Microsoft wanted to remove it, but transparency is still in the taskbar. Window animations aren't in any way related to Aero, they're rendered by DWM. And, window colors? This is still in Windows 8.
*They kept Windows Classic for the Server family up to Server 2008 R2 as the default theme because of speed and stability. Not because of familiarity...
--[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 07:07, 8 June 2013 (GMT)
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*I mentioned the window animations and colors because they are part of the Windows Aero article. My question for you, is, should a visually distinct third-party theme (for example) be classified as Windows Aero, simply because it is rendered by the Desktop Window Manager? If not, why should a first-party theme be? Directing your attention to the ''[http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/05/18/creating-the-windows-8-user-experience.aspx Creating the Windows 8 user experience]'' article, which states the following: "''In the end, we decided to bring the desktop closer to the Metro aesthetic, while preserving the compatibility afforded by not changing the size of window chrome, controls, or system UI. '''We have moved beyond Aero Glass—flattening surfaces, removing reflections, and scaling back distracting gradients'''.''" and "''Aero was designed to help the app’s content to be the center of attention, and for the Windows system UI to recede into the background. This is still relevant today, and '''while we are moving beyond Aero''', we don’t want to lose sight of these goals.''" Clearly then, to Microsoft, Aero is defined by its characteristics such as translucency, reflections, complex textures, etc.
*Even if Windows Classic was set as the default theme for speed and stability, almost certainly, familiarity was a factor in that decision, as it gives the look and behavior of previous versions. At the time, weren't visual styles (such as Luna) fairly new to Windows?
([[User:Maza|Maza]] ([[User talk:Maza|talk]]) 01:52, 9 June 2013 (GMT))
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* When you take a look from the user's side, then it's not Aero. But from the technical side, it is Aero. The theme is still called Aero.
<code> Directory of C:\Windows\Resources\Themes
26. 07. 2012  08:49    <DIR>          .
26. 07. 2012  08:49    <DIR>          ..
29. 05. 2013  14:36    <DIR>          aero
17. 06. 2012  17:32            1 868 aero.theme
17. 06. 2012  17:32            2 303 theme1.theme
17. 06. 2012  17:32            2 306 theme2.theme</code>
Directory listing from a fresh Windows 8 install. Also, I only said about DWM that the window animations aren't related to Aero as they're managed by DWM.
* It's your opinion. I asked few people, and they've said that it's because of speed and less used resources. We really can't talk about familiarity when talking about default theme for Windows Server. For the same reason, Linux server operating systems such as Ubuntu Server don't include X server by default. Again, because of speed and less used resources.
--[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 18:44, 9 June 2013 (GMT)
'''Stop with the edit war, it's pointless and just spams the Wiki. Try being productive for a change and improve an article...'''
-[[User:DeFacto|DeFacto]]
== Thank you ==
AlphaBeta, thank you for correcting the build tags that I placed in the Windows 8.1 articles. ([[User:Maza|Maza]] ([[User talk:Maza|talk]]) 22:03, 4 August 2014 (BST))
:You're welcome. --[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 18:44, 27 August 2014 (BST)
== about my ban ==
If you could've checked my block log again, you would see I was infinite-blocked.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 14:01, 23 April 2019 (BST)
== How dare you ==
Tisk tisk tisk  [[User:Wwepro126|Wwepro126]] ([[User talk:Wwepro126|talk]]) 21:36, 5 May 2019 (BST)
== About replies ==
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== Ugh, what the fuck? ==
{{closed|Best for me to not talk to you ever again.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/MCpillager|C]] | [[User:MCpillager/Sandbox|S]]) 04:29, 24 August 2019 (BST)}}
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: and what does that have to do with BetaArchive? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 16:28, 22 August 2019 (BST)
:: Listen, this guy wont even respond to my PMs, but he responds to my posts. I dont get it.--[[User:MCpillager|Ḿ̴̩̯̐C̴̨̐̌p̵̡͓̓i̴̲̤̐̔͒l̴̡̽̊͝l̵̡͚̦͛͒̒͘a̴̫̽̆̈́g̵͔̭̊̉̿͜͝e̴̥̅͌r̵̙̲̜̊]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|t̷̨̗͓͇̑̓͝ḁ̸̇l̴̘̮͒͛k̵͇̞̃̑̀ͅ]] | [[Special:Contributions/MCpillager|c̶͔̻͈͜͝o̶̞̭͉̯͂͐n̴̰͇̟͒t̴̬̆̈́̉̚r̴̦̟͖̃̔̀̿i̴͚̮̥̓͠ḅ̸̤̮̳̓͝s̸̳̏]]) 17:10, 22 August 2019 (BST)
::: Just accept that your banned and not wanted back. Doing shit like this is exactly how to have more people hate you and how to not get unbanned. In the simplest English I know; they don't want you back. [[User:WILSON2bGg|Rob - Wilson]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 23:20, 22 August 2019 (BST)
:::: Why do you care? Contribute here instead. ([[User:Maza|Maza]] ([[User talk:Maza|talk]]) 02:25, 23 August 2019 (BST))
:::: They harassed me, and they deny that fact by banning me.
:::: Also mods, is there a way to ignore WILSON2bGg before I go insane?--[[User:MCpillager|Ḿ̴̩̯̐C̴̨̐̌p̵̡͓̓i̴̲̤̐̔͒l̴̡̽̊͝l̵̡͚̦͛͒̒͘a̴̫̽̆̈́g̵͔̭̊̉̿͜͝e̴̥̅͌r̵̙̲̜̊]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|t̷̨̗͓͇̑̓͝ḁ̸̇l̴̘̮͒͛k̵͇̞̃̑̀ͅ]] | [[Special:Contributions/MCpillager|c̶͔̻͈͜͝o̶̞̭͉̯͂͐n̴̰͇̟͒t̴̬̆̈́̉̚r̴̦̟͖̃̔̀̿i̴͚̮̥̓͠ḅ̸̤̮̳̓͝s̸̳̏]]) 11:28, 23 August 2019 (BST)
:::::Go insane, and you're out.
:::::{{Ping|x010}} wasn't he warned several times not to bring BW stuff here? I don't see when will these warnings end. This is going WAY too far. --[[User:ATeamInc|ATeamInc]] ([[User talk:ATeamInc|talk]]) 11:54, 23 August 2019 (BST)
::::::{{ping|ATeamInc}} Yes, he was. One more and a two-week ban is in order. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 20:54, 23 August 2019 (BST)
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Revision as of 03:29, 24 August 2019

Hi :3

Hi dragondemonlord :)

Recent edits

I have questions about your recent changes made to the Windows Visual Styles, and Windows Classic articles.

  • Technically speaking, Windows Aero is not included in Windows 8. Aero, as defined by Microsoft, "features a translucent glass design with subtle window animations and new window colors."
  • Although using Windows Classic does offer performance benefits, why didn't you just add to what was written instead of deleting it?

(Maza (talk) 02:59, 8 June 2013 (GMT))


  • Aero is in Windows 8. But not in the exact form we know it from earlier Windows versions. It has been redesigned to better fit Metro. Yes, the glass is gone, but that's because Microsoft wanted to remove it, but transparency is still in the taskbar. Window animations aren't in any way related to Aero, they're rendered by DWM. And, window colors? This is still in Windows 8.
  • They kept Windows Classic for the Server family up to Server 2008 R2 as the default theme because of speed and stability. Not because of familiarity...

--AlphaBeta (talk) 07:07, 8 June 2013 (GMT)


  • I mentioned the window animations and colors because they are part of the Windows Aero article. My question for you, is, should a visually distinct third-party theme (for example) be classified as Windows Aero, simply because it is rendered by the Desktop Window Manager? If not, why should a first-party theme be? Directing your attention to the Creating the Windows 8 user experience article, which states the following: "In the end, we decided to bring the desktop closer to the Metro aesthetic, while preserving the compatibility afforded by not changing the size of window chrome, controls, or system UI. We have moved beyond Aero Glass—flattening surfaces, removing reflections, and scaling back distracting gradients." and "Aero was designed to help the app’s content to be the center of attention, and for the Windows system UI to recede into the background. This is still relevant today, and while we are moving beyond Aero, we don’t want to lose sight of these goals." Clearly then, to Microsoft, Aero is defined by its characteristics such as translucency, reflections, complex textures, etc.
  • Even if Windows Classic was set as the default theme for speed and stability, almost certainly, familiarity was a factor in that decision, as it gives the look and behavior of previous versions. At the time, weren't visual styles (such as Luna) fairly new to Windows?

(Maza (talk) 01:52, 9 June 2013 (GMT))


  • When you take a look from the user's side, then it's not Aero. But from the technical side, it is Aero. The theme is still called Aero.

Directory of C:\Windows\Resources\Themes

26. 07. 2012 08:49 <DIR> .

26. 07. 2012 08:49 <DIR> ..

29. 05. 2013 14:36 <DIR> aero

17. 06. 2012 17:32 1 868 aero.theme

17. 06. 2012 17:32 2 303 theme1.theme

17. 06. 2012 17:32 2 306 theme2.theme

Directory listing from a fresh Windows 8 install. Also, I only said about DWM that the window animations aren't related to Aero as they're managed by DWM.

  • It's your opinion. I asked few people, and they've said that it's because of speed and less used resources. We really can't talk about familiarity when talking about default theme for Windows Server. For the same reason, Linux server operating systems such as Ubuntu Server don't include X server by default. Again, because of speed and less used resources.

--AlphaBeta (talk) 18:44, 9 June 2013 (GMT)

Stop with the edit war, it's pointless and just spams the Wiki. Try being productive for a change and improve an article...

-DeFacto

Thank you

AlphaBeta, thank you for correcting the build tags that I placed in the Windows 8.1 articles. (Maza (talk) 22:03, 4 August 2014 (BST))

You're welcome. --AlphaBeta (talk) 18:44, 27 August 2014 (BST)

about my ban

If you could've checked my block log again, you would see I was infinite-blocked.--MCpillager - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 14:01, 23 April 2019 (BST)

How dare you

Tisk tisk tisk Wwepro126 (talk) 21:36, 5 May 2019 (BST)

About replies

Please use the {{ping}} template when you are writing a reply. It gives others an idea who you are replying to. Thank you. --SebOno (talk | sandbox) elcomeWay otay etaArchiveBay ikiWay! 13:44, 6 May 2019 (BST)

Ugh, what the fuck?

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