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<div>{{Infobox Windows<br />
|caption = Windows 2000<br />
|image = Desktopwinver_5.0.2195.png<br />
|imagecaption = Desktop<br />
|preliminary = Windows NT 5.0<br />
|kernel = NT 5.0<br />
|arch = x86, IA-64<br />
|build = [[/5.0.2195.1|5.0.2195.1 (RTM)]]<br />
|release = 2000-02-17<br />
|support = 2010-07-13<br />
|previous = [[Windows NT 4.0]]<br />
|next = [[Windows Neptune]]<br>[[Windows XP]]<br />
}}<br />
'''Windows 2000''' (known as ''Windows NT 5.0'' during development), was the last version of the [[Windows|Windows NT line]] of operating systems which was released for business users only and succeeded Windows NT 4.0. It is still branded with "Based on NT Technology", possibly to prevent confusion with the 9x line (which was also named after the year of release at that time). This was done between Beta 2 and 3 stages, somewhere between builds 1911.1 and 1946.1. Extended support ended in 2010. It is the last version of Windows NT to include ''NT'' in its product name.<br />
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== Editions ==<br />
Windows 2000 was released in four editions:<br />
* ''Professional''<br />
* ''Server''<br />
* ''Advanced Server''<br />
* ''Datacenter Server''<br />
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=== Professional ===<br />
It is the client version of Windows 2000. It offers greater security and stability than many of the previous Windows desktop operating systems. It supports up to two processors and can address up to 4 GB of RAM. The system requirements are a Pentium processor (or equivalent) of 133 MHz or greater, at least 32 MB of RAM, 650 MB of hard drive space, and a CD-ROM drive (recommended: Pentium II, 128 MB of RAM, 2 GB of hard drive space, and CD-ROM drive).<br />
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=== Server ===<br />
It shares the same user interface with Windows 2000 Professional but contains additional components for the computer to perform server roles and run infrastructure and application software. A significant new component introduced in the server versions is Active Directory, which is an enterprise-wide directory service based on LDAP. Additionally, Microsoft integrated Kerberos network authentication, replacing the often-criticised NTLM authentication system used in previous versions. This also provided a purely transitive-trust relationship between Windows 2000 domains in a forest (a collection of one or more Windows 2000 domains that share a common schema, configuration, and global catalog, being linked with two-way transitive trusts). Furthermore, Windows 2000 introduced a Domain Name Server which allows dynamic registration of IP addresses. Windows Server 2000 supports up to 4 processors, requires 128 MB of RAM and 1 GB hard disk space, however requirements may be higher depending on installed components.<br />
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=== Advanced Server ===<br />
It is a variant of Windows Server 2000 operating system designed for medium-to-large businesses. It offers clustering infrastructure for high availability and scalability of applications and services, including main memory support of up to 8 gigabytes (GB) on Physical Address Extension (PAE) systems and the ability to do 8-way SMP. It supports TCP/IP load balancing and enhanced two-node server clusters based on the Microsoft Cluster Server (MSCS) in Windows NT Server 4.0 Enterprise Edition. Limited number of copies of an IA-64 version, called Windows Advanced Server 2000, Limited Edition were made available via OEMs. System requirements are similar to those of Windows Server 2000 however, they may need to be higher to scale to larger infrastructure.<br />
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=== Datacenter Server ===<br />
It is a variant of Windows Server 2000 designed for large businesses that move large quantities of confidential or sensitive data frequently via a central server. Like Advanced Server, it supports clustering, failover and load balancing. Its minimum system requirements are normal, but it was designed to be capable of handling advanced, fault-tolerant and scalable hardware—for instance computers with up to 32 CPUs and 64 GBs RAM, with rigorous system testing and qualification, hardware partitioning, coordinated maintenance and change control. A limited number of copies of an IA-64 version of Windows Server 2000, called Windows Datacenter Server 2000 ''Limited Edition'' were made available via OEMs. System requirements are similar to those of Windows Advanced Server 2000 however, they may need to be higher to scale to larger infrastructure.<br />
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== Service Packs ==<br />
In all, there were four service packs released for Windows 2000. All are considered as abandonware as of 2013.<br />
=== Service Pack 1 ===<br />
Service Pack 1 was released on 15 August 2000. <br />
=== Service Pack 2 ===<br />
Service Pack 2 was released on 16 May 2001. <br />
=== Service Pack 3 ===<br />
Service Pack 3 was released on 29 August 2002. <br />
=== Service Pack 4 ===<br />
Service Pack 4 was released on 26 June 2003. <br />
==== Update Rollup 1 ====<br />
Update Rollup 1 for Service Pack 4 is a collection of hotfixes, mainly for the security-related issues. It is said to contain all the security-related hotfixes and some non-security updates released between SP4 and UR1 for SP4. This rollup has been released instead of Service Pack 5. [http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Windows/Microsoft-Scraps-Plans-for-Windows-2000-SP5/]<br />
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Microsoft also planned to release Service Pack 5, but it was canceled and the Update Rollup 1 for Service Pack 4 was released instead. [http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Windows/Microsoft-Scraps-Plans-for-Windows-2000-SP5/]<br />
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== Builds ==<br />
{{Builds Legend}}<br />
==== Pre-Beta ====<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1515.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1515.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1516.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1516.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1575.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1575.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1580.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1580.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1585.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1585.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1592.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1592.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1597.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1597.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1627.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1627.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1631.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1631.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[/5.0.1636.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1636.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1645.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1645.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1661.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1661.1]]'''<br />
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==== Beta 1 ====<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1671.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1671.1]]''''' - Official Beta 1<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1681.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1681.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1691.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1691.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1701.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1701.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1717.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1717.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1721.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1721.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1723.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1723.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1729.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1729.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1737.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1737.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1743.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1743.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1744.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1744.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1745.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1745.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1749.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1749.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1767.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1767.1]]'''<br />
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==== Interim Developer Release ====<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1773.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1773.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1796.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1796.1]]'''''<br />
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==== Beta 2 ====<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1814.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1814.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1816.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1816.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1828.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1828.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1835.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1835.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1848.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1848.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1855.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1855.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1859.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1859.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1864.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1864.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1868.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1868.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1871.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1871.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1877.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1877.1]]''''' - Official Beta 2<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1879.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1879.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1902.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1902.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1903.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1903.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1906.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1906.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1909.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1909.1]]'''<br />
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==== Beta 3 ====<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1911.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1911.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1916.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1916.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1930.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1930.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1932.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1932.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1941.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1941.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1942.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1942.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1946.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1946.1]]''''' - Official Beta 3 Release Candidate 0<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1950.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1950.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1951.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1951.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1953.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1953.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1960.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1960.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1964.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1964.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1965.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1965.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1968.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1968.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1969.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1969.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1972.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1972.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1974.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1974.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[/5.0.1976.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1976.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1978.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1978.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1983.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1983.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1989.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1989.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1993.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1993.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1994.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1994.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1996.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1996.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1999.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 1999.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2000.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2000.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2000.3|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2000.3]]''''' - Official Beta 3 Release Candidate 1<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2012.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2012.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2017.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2017.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2020.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2020.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2027.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2027.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2028.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2028.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2031.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2031.1]]''''' - Official Beta 3<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2035.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2035.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[/5.0.2040.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2040.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2042.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2042.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2045.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2045.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2053.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2053.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2056.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2056.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2063.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2063.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2068.1|Windows NT 5.0 Build 2068.1]]'''''<br />
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==== Release Candidate 1 ====<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2071.1|Windows 2000 Build 2071.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2072.1|Windows 2000 Build 2072.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2082.1|Windows 2000 Build 2082.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2090.1|Windows 2000 Build 2090.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2091.1|Windows 2000 Build 2091.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2092.1|Windows 2000 Build 2092.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2099.1|Windows 2000 Build 2099.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2114.1|Windows 2000 Build 2114.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2121.1|Windows 2000 Build 2121.1]]'''<br />
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==== Release Candidate 2 ====<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2128.1|Windows 2000 Build 2128.1]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2134.1|Windows 2000 Build 2134.1]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2140.1|Windows 2000 Build 2140.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2151.1|Windows 2000 Build 2151.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2167.1|Windows 2000 Build 2167.1]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2183.1|Windows 2000 Build 2183.1]]'''''<br />
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==== RTM ====<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.2195.1|Windows 2000 Build 2195.1]]'''''<br />
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==== SP1 RTM ====<br />
* '''''[[/5.0.2195.1620|Windows 2000 Build 2195.1620]]'''''<br />
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==== SP2 RTM ====<br />
* '''''[[/5.0.2195.2951|Windows 2000 Build 2195.2951]]'''''<br />
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==== SP3 RTM ====<br />
* '''''[[/5.0.2195.5438|Windows 2000 Build 2195.5438]]'''''<br />
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==== SP4 RTM ====<br />
* '''''[[/5.0.2195.6717|Windows 2000 Build 2195.6717]]'''''<br />
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==== Small Business Server Beta====<br />
* '''''[[Windows 2000/5.0.1059.0|Windows 2000 Build 1059.0]]'''''<br />
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==== Post-RTM ====<br />
* '''''[[Windows XP/5.0.2202.1.ntvbl06.000202-1835|SD Windows 2000 Build 2202.1.ntvbl06.000202-1835]]'''''<br />
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[[Category:Operating Systems]]</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Self-Host_Vote&diff=24217Self-Host Vote2019-09-13T10:31:12Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 24214 by MCpillager (talk)</p>
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<div>'''Self-Host Vote''', also know as '''VoteNow''', was an internal application meant for Longhorn developers and was included intermittently in Longhorn. The builds that are leaked and have this application are 4033, 4039, 4042, 4053, 4084 and 4093. The application is located in the %SystemRoot%\System32\ directory and is named VoteNow.exe and is also set to start up with Windows.<br />
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On first glance, opening the application does nothing and using Resource Hacker to view anything inside it shows only version info. But upon further investigation it appears to be a rather complex application. 'cl_VoteYourTestBuild' in the executable appears to mean that this application is used for testing builds. 'GetLAB' is used to check 'HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\BuildLab to check if it's a valid build lab for voting (Lab01, Lab02, Lab03, Lab04, Lab06, Lab07). Interestingly, there's a Lab21. I have no idea what this lab is fo, neither have I heard of it before. If the lab is main, the application stops with 'BadLab'. 'IsLegalVoter' checks the user domain environment variable to see if he is a legal voter: in this case valid user domains are NTDEV, WINDEPLOY, REDMOND, SEGROUP, AFRICA, CORP, EUROPE, MIDDLEEAST, NORTHAMERICA, SOUTHAMERICA, SOUTHPACIFIC, INTERACTIVE, WINGROUP, XRED, XCOPR, WINSE, PHX, and SYS-WINGROUP. <br />
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After further investigation in the executable, I found, contains a registry key in HKLM\Software named 'VoteNow' with 'VotedOn' in it. Interestingly, there is also a message saying "User has not voted before" but I am not sure what it means.<br />
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After a specified period of time, VoteNow will check everything mentioned before, if correct, will pop up a notification saying "You have been using this Longhorn build for a few hours now. By using the Vote Now button below, you can vote to let us know what you think of it. To learn more, click this text." with two buttons, "Vote Now", and "Later". The notification uses the ThumbsUp.png button found in the system32 folder. <br />
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Clicking "Vote Now" in the notification would open up IE and navigate to an internal web page: <code>http://winweb/selfhost2/?ballot=3&lab=", lAB, "&build=", str"</code>, in which lAB is the lab returned by GetLAB and str is the value found in the registry as mentioned earlier. As an example, the URL opened after clicking VoteNow's notification in 4033 would be <code>http://winweb/selfhost2/?ballot=3&lab=main&build=4033.030717</code>. Clicking "Later" in the notification would reset VoteNow's timer starting at 0. Clicking the notification itself opens another internal web page, <code>http://longhorn/selfhost/</code>, which contained more info about voting. While none of these pages work anymore and they haven't been archived anywhere the URLs are still nice to have for informational purposes. <br />
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VoteNow.exe's file version is 0.0.0.0. <br />
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[[Category:Windows "Longhorn"]]</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=BetaArchive_Wiki:Administration&diff=24182BetaArchive Wiki:Administration2019-09-07T17:49:01Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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Please use this section to request anything that needs to be done by a moderator/administrator. This can include a request for<br />
* importing any page from any other wiki<br />
* blocking users<br />
* undeletion of a page (see [[:Category:Removal Requests|Deletion requests]] if you want to have a page deleted instead)<br />
* protecting, unprotecting or editing a protected page<br />
* any issues with the wiki<br />
* Anything else that is related to the administration of this wiki<br />
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Add your request/comment directly below. Please sign your post with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> in the end. If you want to mention another user, please use the <code><nowiki>{{reply to|username}}</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>{{ping|username}}</nowiki></code> template (which adds a '@' before the username) and make sure to sign your post. Then the user will be notified the next time he/she uses the wiki.<br> You can use colons (<code>:</code>) at the start of a line to indent it.<br />
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== Creating rules and guidelines ==<br />
Hi all, I think it's time we introduce some clear rules and guidelines for the wiki, preferably supported by consensus. Please comment on the proposals below. If you think there is another topic to be raised, feel free to add it. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:52, 26 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
=== Build naming system ===<br />
Currently there is no clear policy on the build naming system. I've seen a few possible options from discussions on Discord and elsewhere:<br />
* current style: each build has its own page with parent in the same depth, no subpages: for example, [[Windows 10 build 10.0.12345.main_fbl_telemetry_032619-1813]] and [[Windows 10]]<br />
* '''each build has its own page and is a subpage of the parent OS: for example, [[Windows 10/Build 12345]] and [[Windows 10]]'''<br />
* each build has its own page and is separated by colons: for example, [[Windows 10:Build 12345]] and [[Windows 10]]<br />
* all builds reside in the parent page and is separated by headings<br />
Personally,<br />
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* that will lead to fragmentation as there is no clear 'collection' of the builds and one will simply have too many pages with the same 'depth'<br />
* my preference. MediaWiki recognises that it's a subpage and makes some optimisations for that; see [[mediawikiwiki:Subpages]] for details.<br />
* that is confusing as not only does it look cluttered, it looks like a namespace, which it isn't.<br />
* that would lead to fragmentation and the main pages will simply be too large<br />
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Please comment on what you think on them. If you think another option is better, please feel free to add them. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:52, 26 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
==== Comments ====<br />
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{{reply to|WILSON2bGg}} That's pretty much the same as my first option, as the parent OS and the build will still be in the same depth. I've edited the options to make that more clear, and hence removed your option. Please let me know if it's still not correct. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 21:53, 26 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
::{{reply to|X010}} I made the 1st option a little more like my proposal. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 22:01, 26 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
==== Result ====<br />
Thanks to all for the discussion. Based on Discord conversations, there is a 2:2 deadlock on options 1 and 2. We've decided to implement option 2 in the end. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 22:47, 31 March 2019 (BST)<br />
== Uploading images ==<br />
For some reason, I can't upload images, it gives a 503 error.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:06, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|MCpillager}} How are you uploading them - through a URL or through a file source? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:11, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:: {{ping|X010}} Through a file source. It was tested on Firefox 66.0.2 on Android 6.0.1 and Netscape 9.0.0.6 on Windows 98.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:15, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::: {{ping|MCpillager}} Strange, I can upload just fine. Could you try to upload again? If the error still occurs, can you share a screenshot of the problem? Thanks in advance. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:17, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::: {{ping|X010}} Might be because my connection is slow, but I have no problems using the BA Image uploader.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:21, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::: {{ping|MCpillager}} Currently, cross-linking of images between the BA image uploader and the wiki is not available (which is something we are working upon). For the time being then, you can link the image to the BA image uploader from the wiki using an external link (which will not display the image itself however). [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:24, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::: {{ping|X010}} [https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=440227#p440227 Here is the picture.]--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:28, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::: {{ping|MCpillager}} "The requested topic does not exist." [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 22:15, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::: {{ping|X010}} i fixd the link.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers.<br />
== Idea ==<br />
I got a idea to improve your wiki why not make a userbox so like for example this user is a pro at computers or something [[User:Wwepro126|Wwepro126]] ([[User talk:Wwepro126|talk]]) 19:00, 29 April 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|Wwepro126}} Thanks for your suggestion. I've moved it to the correct place. However, at this time I'm not sure whether we need one as a small wiki; if you desire a certain one you can always request its importation. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 20:11, 29 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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==Umm==<br />
This is crossing the line from just linking your accounts on userpages. https://betawiki.net/wiki/User_talk:Bubbles [[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 05:46, 5 May 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|LilShootDawg}} Whoever did it, it was not me. We don't have any 'invites' - anyone is free to register to the wiki. It was an IP user after all, so not sure who did it. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 09:47, 5 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::It was MCpillager. IP and useragent matches. [[User:DeFacto|DeFacto]] ([[User talk:DeFacto|talk]]) 10:01, 5 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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==Moving==<br />
Should we move the Windows page to Microsoft Windows? I will leave a poll below.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - 2147483648 bytéß øf dãtâ 12:09, 13 May 2019 (BST)<br />
===Discussion===<br />
#{{support}} That was it should have been all along. That change to Windows happened because of a misunderstanding on my side. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 12:24, 13 May 2019 (BST)<br />
#{{support}}--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 06:21, 10 June 2019 (BST)<br />
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==Can't upload images==<br />
Why did you disabled image uploading? [[User:YueLing sr|YueLing sr]] ([[User talk:YueLing sr|talk]]) 05:01, 24 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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uploads work fine for me --[[Image:neptuneflag.png|14px]][[User:Dans34|<span style="color:blue">Dans34]]</span><sup>[[User_talk:Dans34|<span style="color:tomato">Talk</span>]]</sup><sub> </sub> 09:48, 24 May 2019 (BST)<br />
* {{ping|YueLing sr}} You need to have a [[BetaArchive Wiki:Autoconfirmed users|few more edits]]. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 09:57, 24 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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== About Windows NT 8.1 ==<br />
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Found this on Malware Wikia: https://malware.wikia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Windows_NT_6.0 It would be nice if he could be globally banned.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 16:19, 27 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:{{ping|MCpillager}} Unless he is the Windows Whistler person, he hasn’t done anything wrong which means that there is '''no''' reason to ban him. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 18:12, 27 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:There is [https://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&dir=prev no account with that name] on this wiki to begin with, so I'm not sure what I can do on this matter. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 18:38, 27 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::He IS; he added Windows 3.5x, and [https://betawiki.net/wiki/User_talk:Windows_for_Workgroups_3.2_is_real! here] is more proof.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 12:14, 28 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:::{{ping|MCpillager}} That's on BetaWiki. What do I have to do with this? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 12:19, 28 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::::{{Ping|X010}} it means that WinNT8.1 is becoming a cross-wiki vandal. So you should stay alert.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 12:21, 28 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:Who cares? If he comes, he will get banned. Easy as that. --[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 12:27, 28 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:These Windows <X> accounts were made by Yusuf Tural (Windows 96 on YouTube) who keep making false information about Windows (example: he thinks Windows Vista used XP sounds). Found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AL0U3bafCk&lc=UgwqynMmgvUWKZG_BVt4AaABAg --[[User:YueLing sr|YueLing sr]] ([[User talk:YueLing sr|talk]]) 13:22, 6 September 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{ping|YueLing sr}} And what does it have to do with BA, BA Wiki, or NT 8.1? If he comes here, he’ll get blocked. [[User:WILSON2bGg|Rob - Wilson]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 01:20, 7 September 2019 (BST)<br />
:::{{ping|WILSON2bGg}} He is a sock of a user called "Windows Whistler" on BA Wiki who always thought "Windows Server 2000" existed. He also created multiple "Windows" accounts on BetaWiki to add a load of bullshit, also including Windows Server 2000, Windows 3.5x non-NT, Windows for Workgroups 3.2, Windows 7.1 build 7601.17514, etc. He IS a cross-wiki vandal. [https://betawiki.net/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Windows+NT+8.1&namespace=&tagfilter=&start=&end= More proof...] (note: this link is only accessible in desktop) --[[User:YueLing sr|YueLing sr]] ([[User talk:YueLing sr|talk]]) 05:19, 7 September 2019 (BST)<br />
::::{{ping|YueLing sr}} This doesn't show anything really. As I (and someone else) said earlier, if they show up, they'll get a quick ban. There's nothing more then that. [[User:WILSON2bGg|Rob - Wilson]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 18:49, 7 September 2019 (BST)<br />
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== Abuse filter ==<br />
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We can add an abuse filter which permabans any users which try to replace Windows 2000 Server with Windows Server 2000 and Microsoft Cairo with Windows Cairo. That way, we can prevent that Windows Whistler person from attacking us.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 13:33, 30 June 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|MCpillager}} I don't think such drastic actions are needed to begin with, and abuse filters can generate false positives which makes automated banning not something that I would usually consider. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 13:48, 30 June 2019 (BST)<br />
:: {{Ping|x010}} you can add an exception to the rule so that autoconfirmed are not affected by it.[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 13:35, 1 July 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=BetaArchive_Wiki:Administration&diff=24172BetaArchive Wiki:Administration2019-09-07T00:20:26Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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Please use this section to request anything that needs to be done by a moderator/administrator. This can include a request for<br />
* importing any page from any other wiki<br />
* blocking users<br />
* undeletion of a page (see [[:Category:Removal Requests|Deletion requests]] if you want to have a page deleted instead)<br />
* protecting, unprotecting or editing a protected page<br />
* any issues with the wiki<br />
* Anything else that is related to the administration of this wiki<br />
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Add your request/comment directly below. Please sign your post with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> in the end. If you want to mention another user, please use the <code><nowiki>{{reply to|username}}</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>{{ping|username}}</nowiki></code> template (which adds a '@' before the username) and make sure to sign your post. Then the user will be notified the next time he/she uses the wiki.<br> You can use colons (<code>:</code>) at the start of a line to indent it.<br />
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== Creating rules and guidelines ==<br />
Hi all, I think it's time we introduce some clear rules and guidelines for the wiki, preferably supported by consensus. Please comment on the proposals below. If you think there is another topic to be raised, feel free to add it. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:52, 26 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
=== Build naming system ===<br />
Currently there is no clear policy on the build naming system. I've seen a few possible options from discussions on Discord and elsewhere:<br />
* current style: each build has its own page with parent in the same depth, no subpages: for example, [[Windows 10 build 10.0.12345.main_fbl_telemetry_032619-1813]] and [[Windows 10]]<br />
* '''each build has its own page and is a subpage of the parent OS: for example, [[Windows 10/Build 12345]] and [[Windows 10]]'''<br />
* each build has its own page and is separated by colons: for example, [[Windows 10:Build 12345]] and [[Windows 10]]<br />
* all builds reside in the parent page and is separated by headings<br />
Personally,<br />
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* that will lead to fragmentation as there is no clear 'collection' of the builds and one will simply have too many pages with the same 'depth'<br />
* my preference. MediaWiki recognises that it's a subpage and makes some optimisations for that; see [[mediawikiwiki:Subpages]] for details.<br />
* that is confusing as not only does it look cluttered, it looks like a namespace, which it isn't.<br />
* that would lead to fragmentation and the main pages will simply be too large<br />
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Please comment on what you think on them. If you think another option is better, please feel free to add them. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:52, 26 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
==== Comments ====<br />
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{{reply to|WILSON2bGg}} That's pretty much the same as my first option, as the parent OS and the build will still be in the same depth. I've edited the options to make that more clear, and hence removed your option. Please let me know if it's still not correct. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 21:53, 26 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
::{{reply to|X010}} I made the 1st option a little more like my proposal. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 22:01, 26 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
==== Result ====<br />
Thanks to all for the discussion. Based on Discord conversations, there is a 2:2 deadlock on options 1 and 2. We've decided to implement option 2 in the end. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 22:47, 31 March 2019 (BST)<br />
== Uploading images ==<br />
For some reason, I can't upload images, it gives a 503 error.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:06, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|MCpillager}} How are you uploading them - through a URL or through a file source? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:11, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:: {{ping|X010}} Through a file source. It was tested on Firefox 66.0.2 on Android 6.0.1 and Netscape 9.0.0.6 on Windows 98.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:15, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::: {{ping|MCpillager}} Strange, I can upload just fine. Could you try to upload again? If the error still occurs, can you share a screenshot of the problem? Thanks in advance. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:17, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::: {{ping|X010}} Might be because my connection is slow, but I have no problems using the BA Image uploader.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:21, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::: {{ping|MCpillager}} Currently, cross-linking of images between the BA image uploader and the wiki is not available (which is something we are working upon). For the time being then, you can link the image to the BA image uploader from the wiki using an external link (which will not display the image itself however). [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:24, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::: {{ping|X010}} [https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=440227#p440227 Here is the picture.]--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:28, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::: {{ping|MCpillager}} "The requested topic does not exist." [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 22:15, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::: {{ping|X010}} i fixd the link.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers.<br />
== Idea ==<br />
I got a idea to improve your wiki why not make a userbox so like for example this user is a pro at computers or something [[User:Wwepro126|Wwepro126]] ([[User talk:Wwepro126|talk]]) 19:00, 29 April 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|Wwepro126}} Thanks for your suggestion. I've moved it to the correct place. However, at this time I'm not sure whether we need one as a small wiki; if you desire a certain one you can always request its importation. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 20:11, 29 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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==Umm==<br />
This is crossing the line from just linking your accounts on userpages. https://betawiki.net/wiki/User_talk:Bubbles [[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 05:46, 5 May 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|LilShootDawg}} Whoever did it, it was not me. We don't have any 'invites' - anyone is free to register to the wiki. It was an IP user after all, so not sure who did it. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 09:47, 5 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::It was MCpillager. IP and useragent matches. [[User:DeFacto|DeFacto]] ([[User talk:DeFacto|talk]]) 10:01, 5 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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==Moving==<br />
Should we move the Windows page to Microsoft Windows? I will leave a poll below.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - 2147483648 bytéß øf dãtâ 12:09, 13 May 2019 (BST)<br />
===Discussion===<br />
#{{support}} That was it should have been all along. That change to Windows happened because of a misunderstanding on my side. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 12:24, 13 May 2019 (BST)<br />
#{{support}}--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 06:21, 10 June 2019 (BST)<br />
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==Can't upload images==<br />
Why did you disabled image uploading? [[User:YueLing sr|YueLing sr]] ([[User talk:YueLing sr|talk]]) 05:01, 24 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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uploads work fine for me --[[Image:neptuneflag.png|14px]][[User:Dans34|<span style="color:blue">Dans34]]</span><sup>[[User_talk:Dans34|<span style="color:tomato">Talk</span>]]</sup><sub> </sub> 09:48, 24 May 2019 (BST)<br />
* {{ping|YueLing sr}} You need to have a [[BetaArchive Wiki:Autoconfirmed users|few more edits]]. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 09:57, 24 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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== About Windows NT 8.1 ==<br />
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Found this on Malware Wikia: https://malware.wikia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Windows_NT_6.0 It would be nice if he could be globally banned.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 16:19, 27 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:{{ping|MCpillager}} Unless he is the Windows Whistler person, he hasn’t done anything wrong which means that there is '''no''' reason to ban him. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 18:12, 27 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:There is [https://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&dir=prev no account with that name] on this wiki to begin with, so I'm not sure what I can do on this matter. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 18:38, 27 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::He IS; he added Windows 3.5x, and [https://betawiki.net/wiki/User_talk:Windows_for_Workgroups_3.2_is_real! here] is more proof.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 12:14, 28 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:::{{ping|MCpillager}} That's on BetaWiki. What do I have to do with this? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 12:19, 28 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::::{{Ping|X010}} it means that WinNT8.1 is becoming a cross-wiki vandal. So you should stay alert.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 12:21, 28 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:Who cares? If he comes, he will get banned. Easy as that. --[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 12:27, 28 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:These Windows <X> accounts were made by Yusuf Tural (Windows 96 on YouTube) who keep making false information about Windows (example: he thinks Windows Vista used XP sounds). Found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AL0U3bafCk&lc=UgwqynMmgvUWKZG_BVt4AaABAg --[[User:YueLing sr|YueLing sr]] ([[User talk:YueLing sr|talk]]) 13:22, 6 September 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{ping|YueLing sr]] And what does it have to do with BA, BA Wiki, or NT 8.1? If he comes here, he’ll get blocked. [[User:WILSON2bGg|Rob - Wilson]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 01:20, 7 September 2019 (BST)<br />
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== Abuse filter ==<br />
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We can add an abuse filter which permabans any users which try to replace Windows 2000 Server with Windows Server 2000 and Microsoft Cairo with Windows Cairo. That way, we can prevent that Windows Whistler person from attacking us.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 13:33, 30 June 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|MCpillager}} I don't think such drastic actions are needed to begin with, and abuse filters can generate false positives which makes automated banning not something that I would usually consider. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 13:48, 30 June 2019 (BST)<br />
:: {{Ping|x010}} you can add an exception to the rule so that autoconfirmed are not affected by it.[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 13:35, 1 July 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:AlphaBeta&diff=24039User talk:AlphaBeta2019-08-22T22:20:34Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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Hi dragondemonlord :)<br />
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== Recent edits ==<br />
I have questions about your recent changes made to the [[Windows:Visual Styles|Windows Visual Styles]], and [[Windows:Visual Styles:Windows Classic|Windows Classic]] articles.<br />
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*Technically speaking, Windows Aero is not included in Windows 8. Aero, as defined by Microsoft, "features a translucent glass design with subtle window animations and new window colors."<br />
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*Although using Windows Classic does offer performance benefits, why didn't you just add to what was written instead of deleting it?<br />
([[User:Maza|Maza]] ([[User talk:Maza|talk]]) 02:59, 8 June 2013 (GMT))<br />
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*Aero is in Windows 8. But not in the exact form we know it from earlier Windows versions. It has been redesigned to better fit Metro. Yes, the glass is gone, but that's because Microsoft wanted to remove it, but transparency is still in the taskbar. Window animations aren't in any way related to Aero, they're rendered by DWM. And, window colors? This is still in Windows 8. <br />
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*They kept Windows Classic for the Server family up to Server 2008 R2 as the default theme because of speed and stability. Not because of familiarity...<br />
--[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 07:07, 8 June 2013 (GMT)<br />
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*I mentioned the window animations and colors because they are part of the Windows Aero article. My question for you, is, should a visually distinct third-party theme (for example) be classified as Windows Aero, simply because it is rendered by the Desktop Window Manager? If not, why should a first-party theme be? Directing your attention to the ''[http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/05/18/creating-the-windows-8-user-experience.aspx Creating the Windows 8 user experience]'' article, which states the following: "''In the end, we decided to bring the desktop closer to the Metro aesthetic, while preserving the compatibility afforded by not changing the size of window chrome, controls, or system UI. '''We have moved beyond Aero Glass—flattening surfaces, removing reflections, and scaling back distracting gradients'''.''" and "''Aero was designed to help the app’s content to be the center of attention, and for the Windows system UI to recede into the background. This is still relevant today, and '''while we are moving beyond Aero''', we don’t want to lose sight of these goals.''" Clearly then, to Microsoft, Aero is defined by its characteristics such as translucency, reflections, complex textures, etc.<br />
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*Even if Windows Classic was set as the default theme for speed and stability, almost certainly, familiarity was a factor in that decision, as it gives the look and behavior of previous versions. At the time, weren't visual styles (such as Luna) fairly new to Windows?<br />
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([[User:Maza|Maza]] ([[User talk:Maza|talk]]) 01:52, 9 June 2013 (GMT))<br />
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* When you take a look from the user's side, then it's not Aero. But from the technical side, it is Aero. The theme is still called Aero. <br />
<code> Directory of C:\Windows\Resources\Themes<br />
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26. 07. 2012 08:49 <DIR> .<br />
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26. 07. 2012 08:49 <DIR> ..<br />
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29. 05. 2013 14:36 <DIR> aero<br />
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17. 06. 2012 17:32 1 868 aero.theme<br />
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17. 06. 2012 17:32 2 303 theme1.theme<br />
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17. 06. 2012 17:32 2 306 theme2.theme</code><br />
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Directory listing from a fresh Windows 8 install. Also, I only said about DWM that the window animations aren't related to Aero as they're managed by DWM.<br />
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* It's your opinion. I asked few people, and they've said that it's because of speed and less used resources. We really can't talk about familiarity when talking about default theme for Windows Server. For the same reason, Linux server operating systems such as Ubuntu Server don't include X server by default. Again, because of speed and less used resources.<br />
--[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 18:44, 9 June 2013 (GMT)<br />
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'''Stop with the edit war, it's pointless and just spams the Wiki. Try being productive for a change and improve an article...'''<br />
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-[[User:DeFacto|DeFacto]]<br />
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== Thank you ==<br />
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AlphaBeta, thank you for correcting the build tags that I placed in the Windows 8.1 articles. ([[User:Maza|Maza]] ([[User talk:Maza|talk]]) 22:03, 4 August 2014 (BST))<br />
:You're welcome. --[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 18:44, 27 August 2014 (BST)<br />
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== about my ban ==<br />
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If you could've checked my block log again, you would see I was infinite-blocked.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 14:01, 23 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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== How dare you ==<br />
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Tisk tisk tisk [[User:Wwepro126|Wwepro126]] ([[User talk:Wwepro126|talk]]) 21:36, 5 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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== About replies ==<br />
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Please use the <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Ping|ping]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code> template when you are writing a reply. It gives others an idea who you are replying to. Thank you. --'''[[User:SebOno|SebOno]]''' ([[User talk:SebOno|talk]] | [[User:SebOno/Sandbox|sandbox]]) elcomeWay otay etaArchiveBay ikiWay! 13:44, 6 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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== Ugh, what the fuck? ==<br />
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Why are you banning me on BetaWiki? All I want to do is help.--[[User:MCpillager|Ḿ̴̩̯̐C̴̨̐̌p̵̡͓̓i̴̲̤̐̔͒l̴̡̽̊͝l̵̡͚̦͛͒̒͘a̴̫̽̆̈́g̵͔̭̊̉̿͜͝e̴̥̅͌r̵̙̲̜̊]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|t̷̨̗͓͇̑̓͝ḁ̸̇l̴̘̮͒͛k̵͇̞̃̑̀ͅ]] | [[Special:Contributions/MCpillager|c̶͔̻͈͜͝o̶̞̭͉̯͂͐n̴̰͇̟͒t̴̬̆̈́̉̚r̴̦̟͖̃̔̀̿i̴͚̮̥̓͠ḅ̸̤̮̳̓͝s̸̳̏]]) 12:46, 22 August 2019 (BST)<br />
: and what does that have to do with BetaArchive? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 16:28, 22 August 2019 (BST)<br />
:: Listen, this guy wont even respond to my PMs, but he responds to my posts. I dont get it.--[[User:MCpillager|Ḿ̴̩̯̐C̴̨̐̌p̵̡͓̓i̴̲̤̐̔͒l̴̡̽̊͝l̵̡͚̦͛͒̒͘a̴̫̽̆̈́g̵͔̭̊̉̿͜͝e̴̥̅͌r̵̙̲̜̊]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|t̷̨̗͓͇̑̓͝ḁ̸̇l̴̘̮͒͛k̵͇̞̃̑̀ͅ]] | [[Special:Contributions/MCpillager|c̶͔̻͈͜͝o̶̞̭͉̯͂͐n̴̰͇̟͒t̴̬̆̈́̉̚r̴̦̟͖̃̔̀̿i̴͚̮̥̓͠ḅ̸̤̮̳̓͝s̸̳̏]]) 17:10, 22 August 2019 (BST)<br />
::: Just accept that your banned and not wanted back. Doing shit like this is exactly how to have more people hate you and how to not get unbanned. In the simplest English I know; they don't want you back. [[User:WILSON2bGg|Rob - Wilson]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 23:20, 22 August 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:WILSON2bGg&diff=24005User talk:WILSON2bGg2019-08-19T23:42:00Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>== Mover ==<br />
To help you in moving pages into the correct naming scheme, I've added the mover right to your account. This means that while moving, you should have an additional option to move without redirect which you must select. This saves me time as I don't have to delete the old redirect all the time. Thanks. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:55, 6 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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== about build 2000.3 ==<br />
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I used to have an BetaWiki account called Longhorn5219, but I abandoned it.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:51, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:What are you trying to tell me? I deleted it since you clearly plagiarized the images and we can’t have that crap on the wiki. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 18:01, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{ping|MCpillager}} The image can be restored. Rob, see [https://betawiki.net/wiki/Special:Log?type=upload&user=Longhorn5219&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= this log]. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 13:31, 25 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::Then look at the images, and notice that most of them aren't good hence the little box that says why. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 10:56, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::{{ping|LilShootDawg}} I randomly looked at some of the images, and can't find anything against them. Could you link to some which are bad under your definition? MCpillager, should I restore the images which were deleted earlier? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 11:30, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::{{ping|X010}} yes please.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 12:09, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::{{ping|MCpillager}} {{done}}. However, please mention on the file description page that you previously uploaded it on BetaWiki under a different name; after all, the concern Rob raised was valid (through incorrect in this case). [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 16:48, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::Also, {{ping|MCpillager}}, couldn't you have redone the screenshots so they aren't registered to BetaWiki.Net. That was my other gripe about them. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 21:03, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::{{ping|X010}} https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-Demo.png Isn't cropped. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-MyComputer.png Isn't cropped. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-FirstBoot.png Not highest resolution. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-FirstBoot.png Not highest res. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98_4.10.1666.png Red fucking outline. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-InternetExplorer.jpg jpg https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-Desktop.jpg jpg https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5734-ControlPanel.jpg jpg etc. etc. etc. You get the idea. {{unsigned|LilShootDawg}}<br />
:::::::{{ping|LilShootDawg}} Maybe my standards are low, but ''none'' of them are that bad for you to be cribbing like this (it's hardly unusable, and the red outline can be fixed). Sure, they are nowhere the best images that you could make. But why don't ''you'' improve on them? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:43, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::{{ping|X010}} It would just be easier to make new ones and delete these. He has a legitimate gripe about these; [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-Demo.png 1], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-MyComputer.png 2], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-InternetExplorer.jpg 3], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5734-ControlPanel.jpg 4] and [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-Desktop.jpg 5]. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 21:50, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::{{ping|X010}} Why would I waste time working on trashy screenshots. It's not like the guidelines weren't there. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 22:15, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::::{{Ping|LilShootDawg}} Those JPGS are unleaked screenies. It is normal for first boots to be in low-res, and Windows98 4.10.1666.png was NOT uploaded by me.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 08:25, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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If they were really unleaked {{reply to|MCpillager}}, then I would expect a note to that effect to be included in the image, and some proof that the build existed as per the [[BetaArchive Wiki:Wiki Guidelines|wiki guidelines]]. <br><br />
{{reply to|WILSON2bGg}} Might be missing something, but what are you trying to show with these links? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 11:27, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::::I’m showing you bad screenshots {{ping|X010}}. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 17:30, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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== Stop ==<br />
{{Closed|this fucking sucks, can {{ping|x010}} remove it?--[[User:MCpillager|MÇpïllαgér]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|tàlk]] | [[Special:Contributions/MCpillager|çøñtrìbs]]) 13:22, 22 July 2019 (BST)}}<br />
Stop reverting my edits without a reason, <s>or ill PM x010</s>.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - 2147483648 bytéß øf dãtâ 06:31, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:{{reply to|MCpillager}} making threats, are we? --[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 12:03, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{Ping|AlphaBeta}} <s>stop being a retard</s>. --[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] We mwust stawp [https://tinyurl.com/y6qt2m2z him] he ugly 12:31, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:::That's as childish as it could possibly be, {{reply to|MCpillager}}... --[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 12:41, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::::While WILSON2bGg should have provided a reason for reverting that edits, I don't think that "stop this or I'll do that" wouldn't be classified as threatening. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 13:13, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::{{ping|MCpillager}} A, don’t threaten me like that. Do this or else crap like that is clearly a threat. B, I undid them due to poor grammar. Feel free to add any information that you added back if it is properly typed out and with proper grammar. Also, I’d know your trying to help the wiki, editing on a phone with that poor of grammar isn’t the way to go. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 13:18, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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Two things,<br />
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* don't use bad language MCpillager, and <br />
* no, talk page discussions cannot be removed like that.<br />
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[[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 13:43, 22 July 2019 (BST)<br />
{{End closed}}<br />
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== Could you reopen your Dell Planet Wiki? ==<br />
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https://dellplanetwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page - read title.<br />
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i also have 2 dell computers, i can take pics of 'em.--[[User:MCpillager|Ḿ̴̩̯̐C̴̨̐̌p̵̡͓̓i̴̲̤̐̔͒l̴̡̽̊͝l̵̡͚̦͛͒̒͘a̴̫̽̆̈́g̵͔̭̊̉̿͜͝e̴̥̅͌r̵̙̲̜̊]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|t̷̨̗͓͇̑̓͝ḁ̸̇l̴̘̮͒͛k̵͇̞̃̑̀ͅ]] | [[Special:Contributions/MCpillager|c̶͔̻͈͜͝o̶̞̭͉̯͂͐n̴̰͇̟͒t̴̬̆̈́̉̚r̴̦̟͖̃̔̀̿i̴͚̮̥̓͠ḅ̸̤̮̳̓͝s̸̳̏]]) 13:55, 19 August 2019 (BST)<br />
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No, but thanks for reminding me to close it. [[User:WILSON2bGg|Rob - Wilson]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 00:42, 20 August 2019 (BST) <br />
PS: Please keep stuff unrelated to BA wiki out of my talk page.</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_2.x&diff=23606Windows 2.x2019-07-25T03:02:03Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>{{Infobox Windows<br />
|caption = Windows 2.x<br />
|image = Windows_1.x_Logo.png<br />
|kernel = 2.x<br />
|arch = x86<br />
|build = [[/2.11 (386)|2.11]]<br />
|release = 1987-11-16<br />
|support = 2001-12-31<br />
|previous = [[Windows 1.0]]<br />
|next = [[Windows 3.x]]<br />
}}<br />
'''Windows 2.x''' is the second version of [[Windows|Microsoft Windows]], released for PCs and compatibles by Microsoft. This was the first version of Windows to provide support for overlapping windows.<br />
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== Windows applications ==<br />
There were some applications that shipped with Windows 2.x. They are:<br />
#Calculator (CALC.EXE) – Microsoft Windows Calculator application<br />
#Calendar (CALENDAR.EXE) – Microsoft Windows Calendar application<br />
#Cardfile (CARDFILE.EXE) – Microsoft Windows Cardfile application<br />
#ClipBook Viewer (CLIPBRD.EXE) – Used for viewing the contents of the Windows clipboard<br />
#Clock (CLOCK.EXE) – Microsoft Windows Clock<br />
#Control Panel (CONTROL.EXE) – Used for configuring Microsoft Windows, managing installed printers, and changing system settings<br />
#CVTPAINT.EXE - Converts files created in Microsoft Paint for Windows 1.0. Required for viewing files under Microsoft Paint for Windows2.<ref name=KB32905>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/32905</ref><br />
#MS DOS Executive – Used for managing files and executing programs<br />
#Notepad (NOTEPAD.EXE) – Uesd for editing simple MS-DOS text (.TXT) files<br />
#Paint (PAINT.EXE) – Microsoft Windows Paint<br />
#PIF Editor (PIFEDIT.EXE) – Used for changing settings for specific MS-DOS applications<br />
#Reversi (REVERSI.EXE) – Microsoft Windows Reversi<br />
#SPOOLER.EXE – The Microsoft Windows print spooler, required for managing and maintains a queue of documents to be printed, sending them to the printer as soon as the printer is ready<br />
#Terminal (TERMINAL.EXE) – Microsoft Windows Terminal<br />
#Write (WRITE.EXE) – Microsoft Windows Write<br />
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As with [[Windows 1.0]], Windows 2.x also included the Control Panel for changing system settings.<br />
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== Support for new video adapters ==<br />
New features in Windows 2.0 included support for VGA graphics (first introduced with the IBM PS/2 series of machines) in 640x480, 16 color mode.<br />
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== Changes in MS-DOS application support ==<br />
One major change from previous versions of Windows was support for the multitasking and virtual memory features of the Intel 80386 CPU, which was found in an increasing number of machines, most notably the Compaq 386 and compatibles, as well as many models of the IBM PS/2. Previously, MS-DOS applications could only be multitasked cooperatively, though Windows applications were still restricted to cooperative multitasking.<br />
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''Note: That this was only available under Windows/386 - other versions of Windows were not able to take advantage of the advanced features of the 80386 processor.''<br />
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== Application support ==<br />
The first Windows versions of Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word were designed for Windows 2.x. Third-party developer support for Windows increased substantially with this version with many shipping the Windows Runtime software with their applications, including the same Windows versions of Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word mentioned above.<br />
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Due to changes in the memory model to allow for protected mode support in Microsoft Windows 3.0, applications designed for Windows 2.1 or previous versions of Windows may not run correctly without modification, and will display an application compatibility warning message if the executable has not been specifically marked for compatibility with Windows 3.0.<ref name="osdev.berlios.de">http://osdev.berlios.de/v86.html</ref><br />
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Examples of Windows 2.x applications that were officially tested and supported under Microsoft Windows 3.0 are Microsoft Excel (as of version 2.1c) and Microsoft Word.<ref name="books.google.com">https://books.google.com/books?id=eTAEAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&lr=&rview=1#v=onepage&q&f=false</ref><br />
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== Expanded Memory (EMS) Support ==<br />
Expanded memory (EMS) is now supported by Microsoft Windows.<ref name="slideshare.net">http://www.slideshare.net/KSreitphzaySibangan/kellys-25015202</ref><br />
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== Legal dispute with Apple ==<br />
On March 17th, 1988, [[Apple]] filed a lawsuit against [[Microsoft]] and Hewlett Packard(HP), accusing them of violating copyrights Apple held on the Macintosh System Software.<ref name="theapplemuseum.com">http://www.theapplemuseum.com/index.php?id=56</ref> Apple claimed the look and feel of the [[MacOS|Macintosh operating system]], taken as a whole, was protected by copyright and that Windows 2.0 violated this copyright by having the same icons. The judge ruled in favor of Hewlett-Packard and Microsoft in all but ten of the 189 patents that Apple sued for. The exclusive ten could not be copyrighted, as ruled by the judge.<br />
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==Builds==<br />
{{Builds Legend}}<br />
=== Pre-release ===<br />
* '''[[/January 1987 build|2.00 Developer's Beta1 Release 07/01/87]]'''<br />
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=== Windows 2.0x ===<br />
* '''[[/2.00|Windows 2.00]]'''<br />
* '''''[[/2.01 (386)|Windows/386 2.01 (Compaq OEM)]]'''''<br />
* [[/2.02 (286)|Windows/286 2.02]]<br />
* [[/2.02 (386)|Windows/386 2.02]]<br />
* '''''[[/2.03|Windows 2.03]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[/2.03 (386)|Windows/386 2.03]]'''''<br />
=== Windows 2.1x ===<br />
* '''''[[/2.10 (286)|Windows/286 2.10]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[/2.10 (386)|Windows/386 2.10]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[/2.11 (286)|Windows/286 2.11]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[/2.11 (386)|Windows/386 2.11]]'''''<br />
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== References ==<br />
<references/></div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_2.x/2.00_Beta_1&diff=23604Windows 2.x/2.00 Beta 12019-07-25T03:00:32Z<p>WILSON2bGg: WILSON2bGg moved page Windows 2.x/2.00 Developer's Beta1 Release 07/01/87 to Windows 2.x/January 1987 build</p>
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<div>{{Infobox WindowsBuild<br />
|title = Build of [[Windows 2.x]]<br />
|image = EzyspJ6.jpg<br />
|kernel = 2.0<br />
|arch = x86 (16-bit)<br />
|bios = January 7, 1987<br />
}}<br />
'''Windows 2.00 Developer's Beta1 Release 07/01/87''' is an unleaked pre-release version of [[Windows 2.x]]. On November 19, 2017, an image surfaced of a magazine that has a screenshot of the bootscreen of this developer's build, from January 7, 1987.</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:MCpillager/Archive_3&diff=23582User talk:MCpillager/Archive 32019-07-23T04:37:13Z<p>WILSON2bGg: /* Reason for deleting 5095 */ new section</p>
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'''Please feel free to leave a message here.'''<br />
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! Talk page archives !! Archive date<br />
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| [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] || 2019-05-01<br />
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| [[/Archive 2|Archive 2]] || 2019-06-12<br />
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== Custom icons ==<br />
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I think it's a better idea if you could upload your screens as stock as possible, i.e, without the custom icons, as they do not come as part of the OS and hence distort an otherwise good image. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 21:51, 26 June 2019 (BST)<br />
:Yeah, please keep icons for third party software, or software that does '''not''' come with the OS off your screenshots. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 22:19, 26 June 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{Ping|WILSON2bGg}} {{Ping|x010}} You want me to do a clean install? THIS IS WHAT I FUCKING HATE. Being forced to do something just for some screenshots.<br />
::As an alternative, can I upload the images from BetaWiki while giving credit?--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 15:57, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::You could just delete the icons for third party software. There’s no one forcing you, you don’t have to make a new one if you don’t want. I just wouldn’t use it for anything as it might confuse people into thinking said third party software might come with the OS. So just delete the third party icons and we’ll be good. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 16:37, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::I'd agree with WILSON2bGg - you don't actually have to go all the way to reinstall the OS. Deleting the custom icons should be pretty painless - you can quickly restore them from the Recycle Bin once that's done. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 22:17, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
== Blocked ==<br />
{{Closed|fuck this shit, im out of here. Also this has been resolved.--[[User:MCpillager|MÇpïllαgér]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|tàlk]] | [[Special:Contributions/MCpillager|çøñtrìbs]]) 08:10, 21 July 2019 (BST)}}<br />
I warned you several times not to bring BetaWiki stuff here, and now you're harassing people. "Go die" is a term which I'm not prepared to accept on this wiki, and I've hence blocked you for a week. You may appeal here on your talk page if required. <br />
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P.S: You really could be a good contributor otherwise.<br />
[[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 18:19, 2 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:{{Ping|x010}} I just want peace and not war. Go tell those fucking BetaWiki admins about that. And for the others, we already managed to get 10 Pillage-Haters globally banned.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 12:08, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:Also we are holding a peace conference here: [http://us20.chatzy.com/21579730561817#0 http://us20.chatzy.com/21579730561817#0].--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 12:25, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
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<small><small>https://mccw-history.fandom.com/wiki/FANDOM_Riots</small></small><br />
:How is that relevant to what I have blocked you for - harassing other users and spreading non-BA Wiki issues here? It does not matter ''who'' is being targeted - harassment isn't the right way. And I can't do anything with your "peace conference" either, and the Fandom link makes little sense to me... [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 12:50, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{Ping|x010}} i would like to appeal. sorry for any inconvenience, i am short-tempered.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 16:44, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:: On what basis do you think I should unblock you? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:28, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::{{Ping|x010}} nvm, imma wait out my 5-day block.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 15:55, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::Also {{ping|X010}} the latest leaked builds are not updated, Windows 95 build 263 has leaked today.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Perfection]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 04:52, 6 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::Ok, we can deal with it, you don't need to bug us to make changes you can't make as of right now. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 06:42, 6 July 2019 (BST)<br />
{{End closed}}<br />
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== about your IBM ThinkPad R60 ==<br />
{{Closed|I think my father threw out the computer :(.--[[User:MCpillager|MÇpïllαgér]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|tàlk]] | [[Special:Contributions/MCpillager|çøñtrìbs]]) 11:09, 20 July 2019 (BST)}}<br />
Hello, I just wanted to draw your attention to a bug that you have on your [[User:MCpillager/Sandbox/Hardware|hardware]] page - your ThinkPad R60 has an Intel Core 2 Duo processor. "Centrino" is just a technology name. --[[User:ToMi|ToMi]] ([[User talk:ToMi|talk]]) 15:00, 19 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:Centrino isn’t just a name, it means that the machine has an Intel CPU, WiFi and graphics. :::: {{unsigned|WILSON2bGg}}<br />
::No, [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino it is]. --[[User:ATeamInc|ATeamInc]] ([[User talk:ATeamInc|talk]]) 05:48, 20 July 2019 (BST)<br />
{{End closed}}<br />
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== Reason for deleting 5095 ==<br />
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Files like that don’t warrant a whole build page. It might make a decent note for the 5111.1 page, but not a separate page. Just since a file has a version number from a different build doesn’t mean it gets a page, just not enough evidence. If you doubt me, just ask mrpjiey. [[User:WILSON2bGg|Rob - Wilson]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 05:37, 23 July 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_Neptune&diff=23581Windows Neptune2019-07-23T04:32:28Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 23573 by MCpillager (talk) builds supposedly with files in other builds don’t count</p>
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<div>{{Infobox Windows<br />
|caption = Windows ''Neptune''<br />
|image = Windows Neptune Logo.png<br />
|codename = Neptune<br />
|kernel = NT 5.50<br />
|arch = x86<br />
|build = [[/5.5.5111.1|5.5.5111.1]]<br />
|previous = [[Windows 2000]]<br />
|next = [[Windows XP]]<br>[[Windows Odyssey]]<br>[[Windows Triton]]<br />
}}<br />
'''''Neptune''''' (internally at Microsoft also known as ''NepTune'') was planned to become the successor of the [[Windows 2000|Windows 2000 family]] as well as the first consumer version of [[Windows]] under the [[Windows#NT line OS|NT kernel]]. It was under development in 1999, until it was canceled, along with [[Windows Odyssey|Odyssey]] to give way for [[Windows XP|Whistler]], which would be released as [[Windows XP]] in 2001. XP included a new login screen, help center and user accounts panel originally envisioned for Neptune. However, Activity Centers were eventually dropped. As stated in confidential [[Microsoft]] documents, Neptune was to be released in Q1 2000, planned to have 64-bit edition (referred to as "NT64") for the upcoming Intel Itanium processor, "Solar Coaster" (Unix Services for NT), [[Internet Explorer 6]] (which was also in development at the time) and some Anti-Piracy features. There is evidence that five service packs were planned for Neptune.<br />
<br />
A successor called [[Windows Triton]] was mistaken as a service pack, but as shown in Antitrust documents, it was actually a successor to Neptune which would bring minor updates and enhancements.<br />
<br />
== Original roadmap ==<br />
The following planned release dates come from [http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/7000/PX07297.pdf PX07297].<br />
<br />
* RTM: March 2000<br />
* SP1: May 2000<br />
* SP2: September 2000<br />
* SP3: January 2001<br />
* SP4: July 2001<br />
* SP5: March 2002<br />
<br />
== Other Neptune SKUs ==<br />
Microsoft Anti-trust documents from Neptune era indicate that Neptune was to have not only one, but several editions, namely '''"Entry-Level"''', '''"Standard"''' and '''"High-End"''', which could translate into these modern SKUs: '''"Starter"''', '''"Home"''' and '''"Professional / Server"'''. It is unknown what these editions would actually become, if Neptune was ever released.<br />
<br />
There are also several strings in file ''USETUP.EXE'' from Neptune build 5111.1 that clearly mention "Neptune Server". These references could be leftovers from Windows 2000, if all "2000" strings were simply replaced with "Neptune" during the rebranding process.<br />
<br />
== Timeline ==<br />
''NOTE: some of the information provided in this timeline is based only on rumours or unconfirmed build numbers. Therefore, this timeline can not be taken as a reliable source of information.''<br />
<br />
* '''Early July 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5022.1 is compiled<br />
* '''Around September 20, 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5067.1 is compiled<br />
* '''Around October 26, 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5086.1 is compiled<br />
* '''Around November 8, 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5095.1 is compiled<br />
* '''Around November 17, 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5099.1 is compiled<br />
* '''Early December 1999''': Microsoft announced the details of Windows Neptune to a few testers<br />
* '''December 10, 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5111.1 is compiled<br />
* '''Mid-December 1999''': Neptune builds 5.50.5116.1 and 5.50.5117.1 are compiled<br />
* '''December 27, 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5111.1 is sent to selected testers<br />
* '''January 21, 2000:''' Paul Thurrott reveals that both Neptune and Odyssey are cancelled and will be replaced by Whistler.<br />
* '''March 20, 2000:''' Windows [[Windows XP/5.0.2211.main.000309-1512|Whistler build 2211.main.000309-1512]] leaks, though it looks a lot like Neptune it's an entirely new project<br />
<br />
== Builds ==<br />
{{Builds Legend}}<br />
* '''[[Windows Neptune/5.5.5067.1|5.5.5067.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows Neptune/5.5.5111.1|5.5.5111.1]]''''' - Neptune Developer Release and M2 build<br />
* ''[[Windows Neptune/5.5.5117.1|5.5.5117.1]]''<br />
* ''[[Windows Neptune/5.5.5118|5.5.5118]]''<br />
* ''[[Windows Neptune/5.5.5119|5.5.5119]]''<br />
* ''[[Windows Neptune/5.5.5120|5.5.5120]]''<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Category:Operating Systems]]<br />
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<div>{{Infobox Windows<br />
|caption = Windows ''Neptune''<br />
|image = Windows Neptune Logo.png<br />
|codename = Neptune<br />
|kernel = NT 5.50<br />
|arch = x86<br />
|build = [[/5.5.5111.1|5.5.5111.1]]<br />
|previous = [[Windows 2000]]<br />
|next = [[Windows XP]]<br>[[Windows Odyssey]]<br>[[Windows Triton]]<br />
}}<br />
'''''Neptune''''' (internally at Microsoft also known as ''NepTune'') was planned to become the successor of the [[Windows 2000|Windows 2000 family]] as well as the first consumer version of [[Windows]] under the [[Windows#NT line OS|NT kernel]]. It was under development in 1999, until it was canceled, along with [[Windows Odyssey|Odyssey]] to give way for [[Windows XP|Whistler]], which would be released as [[Windows XP]] in 2001. XP included a new login screen, help center and user accounts panel originally envisioned for Neptune. However, Activity Centers were eventually dropped. As stated in confidential [[Microsoft]] documents, Neptune was to be released in Q1 2000, planned to have 64-bit edition (referred to as "NT64") for the upcoming Intel Itanium processor, "Solar Coaster" (Unix Services for NT), [[Internet Explorer 6]] (which was also in development at the time) and some Anti-Piracy features. There is evidence that five service packs were planned for Neptune.<br />
<br />
A successor called [[Windows Triton]] was mistaken as a service pack, but as shown in Antitrust documents, it was actually a successor to Neptune which would bring minor updates and enhancements.<br />
<br />
== Original roadmap ==<br />
The following planned release dates come from [http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/7000/PX07297.pdf PX07297].<br />
<br />
* RTM: March 2000<br />
* SP1: May 2000<br />
* SP2: September 2000<br />
* SP3: January 2001<br />
* SP4: July 2001<br />
* SP5: March 2002<br />
<br />
== Other Neptune SKUs ==<br />
Microsoft Anti-trust documents from Neptune era indicate that Neptune was to have not only one, but several editions, namely '''"Entry-Level"''', '''"Standard"''' and '''"High-End"''', which could translate into these modern SKUs: '''"Starter"''', '''"Home"''' and '''"Professional / Server"'''. It is unknown what these editions would actually become, if Neptune was ever released.<br />
<br />
There are also several strings in file ''USETUP.EXE'' from Neptune build 5111.1 that clearly mention "Neptune Server". These references could be leftovers from Windows 2000, if all "2000" strings were simply replaced with "Neptune" during the rebranding process.<br />
<br />
== Timeline ==<br />
''NOTE: some of the information provided in this timeline is based only on rumours or unconfirmed build numbers. Therefore, this timeline can not be taken as a reliable source of information.''<br />
<br />
* '''Early July 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5022.1 is compiled<br />
* '''Around September 20, 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5067.1 is compiled<br />
* '''Around October 26, 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5086.1 is compiled<br />
* '''Around November 8, 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5095.1 is compiled<br />
* '''Around November 17, 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5099.1 is compiled<br />
* '''Early December 1999''': Microsoft announced the details of Windows Neptune to a few testers<br />
* '''December 10, 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5111.1 is compiled<br />
* '''Mid-December 1999''': Neptune builds 5.50.5116.1 and 5.50.5117.1 are compiled<br />
* '''December 27, 1999''': Neptune build 5.50.5111.1 is sent to selected testers<br />
* '''January 21, 2000:''' Paul Thurrott reveals that both Neptune and Odyssey are cancelled and will be replaced by Whistler.<br />
* '''March 20, 2000:''' Windows [[Windows XP/5.0.2211.main.000309-1512|Whistler build 2211.main.000309-1512]] leaks, though it looks a lot like Neptune it's an entirely new project<br />
<br />
== Builds ==<br />
{{Builds Legend}}<br />
* '''[[Windows Neptune/5.5.5067.1|5.5.5067.1]]'''<br />
* '''[/5.5.5095.1|5.5.5095.1]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows Neptune/5.5.5111.1|5.5.5111.1]]''''' - Neptune Developer Release and M2 build<br />
* ''[[Windows Neptune/5.5.5117.1|5.5.5117.1]]''<br />
* ''[[Windows Neptune/5.5.5118|5.5.5118]]''<br />
* ''[[Windows Neptune/5.5.5119|5.5.5119]]''<br />
* ''[[Windows Neptune/5.5.5120|5.5.5120]]''<br />
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I think it's a better idea if you could upload your screens as stock as possible, i.e, without the custom icons, as they do not come as part of the OS and hence distort an otherwise good image. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 21:51, 26 June 2019 (BST)<br />
:Yeah, please keep icons for third party software, or software that does '''not''' come with the OS off your screenshots. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 22:19, 26 June 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{Ping|WILSON2bGg}} {{Ping|x010}} You want me to do a clean install? THIS IS WHAT I FUCKING HATE. Being forced to do something just for some screenshots.<br />
::As an alternative, can I upload the images from BetaWiki while giving credit?--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 15:57, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::You could just delete the icons for third party software. There’s no one forcing you, you don’t have to make a new one if you don’t want. I just wouldn’t use it for anything as it might confuse people into thinking said third party software might come with the OS. So just delete the third party icons and we’ll be good. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 16:37, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::I'd agree with WILSON2bGg - you don't actually have to go all the way to reinstall the OS. Deleting the custom icons should be pretty painless - you can quickly restore them from the Recycle Bin once that's done. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 22:17, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
== Blocked ==<br />
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I warned you several times not to bring BetaWiki stuff here, and now you're harassing people. "Go die" is a term which I'm not prepared to accept on this wiki, and I've hence blocked you for a week. You may appeal here on your talk page if required. <br />
<br />
P.S: You really could be a good contributor otherwise.<br />
[[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 18:19, 2 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:{{Ping|x010}} I just want peace and not war. Go tell those fucking BetaWiki admins about that. And for the others, we already managed to get 10 Pillage-Haters globally banned.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 12:08, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:Also we are holding a peace conference here: [http://us20.chatzy.com/21579730561817#0 http://us20.chatzy.com/21579730561817#0].--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 12:25, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
<br />
<small><small>https://mccw-history.fandom.com/wiki/FANDOM_Riots</small></small><br />
:How is that relevant to what I have blocked you for - harassing other users and spreading non-BA Wiki issues here? It does not matter ''who'' is being targeted - harassment isn't the right way. And I can't do anything with your "peace conference" either, and the Fandom link makes little sense to me... [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 12:50, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{Ping|x010}} i would like to appeal. sorry for any inconvenience, i am short-tempered.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 16:44, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:: On what basis do you think I should unblock you? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:28, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::{{Ping|x010}} nvm, imma wait out my 5-day block.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 15:55, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::Also {{ping|X010}} the latest leaked builds are not updated, Windows 95 build 263 has leaked today.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Perfection]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 04:52, 6 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::Ok, we can deal with it, you don't need to bug us to make changes you can't make as of right now. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 06:42, 6 July 2019 (BST)<br />
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== about your IBM ThinkPad R60 ==<br />
<br />
Hello, I just wanted to draw your attention to a bug that you have on your [[User:MCpillager/Sandbox/Hardware|hardware]] page - your ThinkPad R60 has an Intel Core 2 Duo processor. "Centrino" is just a technology name. --[[User:ToMi|ToMi]] ([[User talk:ToMi|talk]]) 15:00, 19 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:Centrino isn’t just a name, it means that the machine has an Intel CPU, WiFi and graphics. ::::</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_95/4.00.263&diff=23475Windows 95/4.00.2632019-07-06T17:06:06Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>{{Infobox WindowsBuild <br />
|title = Build of [[Windows 95]]<br />
|image = Windows95build263.png<br />
|imagecaption = 4.00.263<br />
|kernel = Windows 9x 4.00<br />
|arch = x86<br />
|bios = November 19, 1994<br />
|key = <code>Beta ID: 186349</code><BR><code>Password: 94730fb34</code><br />
}}<br />
'''Windows 95 build 263''' is a build of [[Windows 95]]. It leaked on 2019-07-06 by Overdoze where files were provided by Dave Pennings. It was originally mislabeled as build 265 in [[Windows 95/4.00.267|267's]] NFO.</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:MCpillager/Archive_3&diff=23469User talk:MCpillager/Archive 32019-07-06T05:42:43Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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== Custom icons ==<br />
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I think it's a better idea if you could upload your screens as stock as possible, i.e, without the custom icons, as they do not come as part of the OS and hence distort an otherwise good image. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 21:51, 26 June 2019 (BST)<br />
:Yeah, please keep icons for third party software, or software that does '''not''' come with the OS off your screenshots. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 22:19, 26 June 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{Ping|WILSON2bGg}} {{Ping|x010}} You want me to do a clean install? THIS IS WHAT I FUCKING HATE. Being forced to do something just for some screenshots.<br />
::As an alternative, can I upload the images from BetaWiki while giving credit?--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 15:57, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::You could just delete the icons for third party software. There’s no one forcing you, you don’t have to make a new one if you don’t want. I just wouldn’t use it for anything as it might confuse people into thinking said third party software might come with the OS. So just delete the third party icons and we’ll be good. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 16:37, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::I'd agree with WILSON2bGg - you don't actually have to go all the way to reinstall the OS. Deleting the custom icons should be pretty painless - you can quickly restore them from the Recycle Bin once that's done. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 22:17, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
== Blocked ==<br />
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I warned you several times not to bring BetaWiki stuff here, and now you're harassing people. "Go die" is a term which I'm not prepared to accept on this wiki, and I've hence blocked you for a week. You may appeal here on your talk page if required. <br />
<br />
P.S: You really could be a good contributor otherwise.<br />
[[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 18:19, 2 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:{{Ping|x010}} I just want peace and not war. Go tell those fucking BetaWiki admins about that. And for the others, we already managed to get 10 Pillage-Haters globally banned.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 12:08, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:Also we are holding a peace conference here: [http://us20.chatzy.com/21579730561817#0 http://us20.chatzy.com/21579730561817#0].--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 12:25, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
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:How is that relevant to what I have blocked you for - harassing other users and spreading non-BA Wiki issues here? It does not matter ''who'' is being targeted - harassment isn't the right way. And I can't do anything with your "peace conference" either, and the Fandom link makes little sense to me... [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 12:50, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{Ping|x010}} i would like to appeal. sorry for any inconvenience, i am short-tempered.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 16:44, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:: On what basis do you think I should unblock you? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:28, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::{{Ping|x010}} nvm, imma wait out my 5-day block.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 15:55, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::Also {{ping|X010}} the latest leaked builds are not updated, Windows 95 build 263 has leaked today.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Perfection]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 04:52, 6 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::Ok, we can deal with it, you don't need to bug us to make changes you can't make as of right now. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 06:42, 6 July 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:MCpillager/Archive_3&diff=23465User talk:MCpillager/Archive 32019-07-04T15:37:39Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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I think it's a better idea if you could upload your screens as stock as possible, i.e, without the custom icons, as they do not come as part of the OS and hence distort an otherwise good image. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 21:51, 26 June 2019 (BST)<br />
:Yeah, please keep icons for third party software, or software that does '''not''' come with the OS off your screenshots. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 22:19, 26 June 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{Ping|WILSON2bGg}} {{Ping|x010}} You want me to do a clean install? THIS IS WHAT I FUCKING HATE. Being forced to do something just for some screenshots.<br />
::As an alternative, can I upload the images from BetaWiki while giving credit?--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 15:57, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::You could just delete the icons for third party software. There’s no one forcing you, you don’t have to make a new one if you don’t want. I just wouldn’t use it for anything as it might confuse people into thinking said third party software might come with the OS. So just delete the third party icons and we’ll be good. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 16:37, 4 July 2019 (BST)<br />
== Blocked ==<br />
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I warned you several times not to bring BetaWiki stuff here, and now you're harassing people. "Go die" is a term which I'm not prepared to accept on this wiki, and I've hence blocked you for a week. You may appeal here on your talk page if required. <br />
<br />
P.S: You really could be a good contributor otherwise.<br />
[[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 18:19, 2 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:{{Ping|x010}} I just want peace and not war. Go tell those fucking BetaWiki admins about that. And for the others, we already managed to get 10 Pillage-Haters globally banned.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 12:08, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:Also we are holding a peace conference here: [http://us20.chatzy.com/21579730561817#0 http://us20.chatzy.com/21579730561817#0].--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 12:25, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
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:How is that relevant to what I have blocked you for - harassing other users and spreading non-BA Wiki issues here? It does not matter ''who'' is being targeted - harassment isn't the right way. And I can't do anything with your "peace conference" either, and the Fandom link makes little sense to me... [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 12:50, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{Ping|x010}} i would like to appeal. sorry for any inconvenience, i am short-tempered.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 16:44, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:: On what basis do you think I should unblock you? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:28, 3 July 2019 (BST)<br />
:::{{Ping|x010}} nvm, imma wait out my 5-day block.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - ARCC]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 15:55, 4 July 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_98/4.10.2222A&diff=23419Windows 98/4.10.2222A2019-06-27T17:14:45Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 23418 by MCpillager (talk) This picture has been put up for removal, please see the file itself. I removed it so that it wouldn't be on a page when we remove it.</p>
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<div>{{Infobox WindowsBuild<br />
|title = Build of [[Windows 98]]<br />
|image = <br />
|imagecaption = 4.10.2222A<br />
|kernel = 4.10<br />
|arch = x86 (16-bit)<br />
}}<br />
'''Windows 98 build 2222A''' is an updated version of [[Windows 98]], released on May 5, 1999. Many issues with the first version of the operating system were addressed, including the ''49.7 day limit'', and Y2K-incompliance. <br />
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New features include DirectX 6.1, Internet Connection Sharing, [[Internet Explorer 5]], NetMeeting 3.0, and Windows Media Player 6.2.<br />
<br />
==System Requirements==<br />
Minimum system requirements are a 486DX2/66 MHz processor and 16 MB of RAM. <br />
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It is not designed<ref>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304943</ref> to operate with more than 1.5 GB of RAM, however with a patch it can be operated with upto 4GB RAM.<br />
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==Gallery==<br />
<gallery><br />
Win98-Demo.PNG|Demo<br />
</gallery><br />
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==References==<br />
<references></references></div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Win98-Desk.PNG&diff=23400File:Win98-Desk.PNG2019-06-26T21:26:41Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>{{User:MCpillager/Menu}}<br />
'''Please feel free to leave a message here.'''<br />
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{| class="wikitable"<br />
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! Talk page archives !! Archive date<br />
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| [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] || 2019-05-01<br />
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| [[/Archive 2|Archive 2]] || 2019-06-12<br />
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== Custom icons ==<br />
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I think it's a better idea if you could upload your screens as stock as possible, i.e, without the custom icons, as they do not come as part of the OS and hence distort an otherwise good image. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 21:51, 26 June 2019 (BST)<br />
:Yeah, please keep icons for third party software, or software that does '''not''' come with the OS off your screenshots. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 22:19, 26 June 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_98&diff=23397Windows 982019-06-26T19:49:13Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Removed a fake/mod release, no need for it to be on the wiki</p>
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<div>{{Infobox Windows<br />
|caption = Windows 98<br />
|image = Windows 98 Logo.png<br />
|codename = Memphis<br />
|kernel = 16/32 bit hybrid, ver. 4.10<br />
|arch = x86<br />
|build = [[/4.10.1998|4.10.1998 (Gold RTM)]] <br> [[/4.10.2222A|4.10.2222A (SE RTM)]]<br />
|release = 1998-06-25 (Gold) <br> 1999-05-05 (SE)<br />
|licence = Microsoft EULA<br />
|support = 2006-07-11<br />
|previous = [[Windows 95]]<br>[[Windows Nashville]]<br />
|next = [[Windows ME]]<br />
}}<br />
[[image:Win98_1998.png|thumb|Windows 98]]<br />
[[image:Win98_2222a.png|thumb|Windows 98 Second Edition]]<br />
'''Windows 98''' (codenamed ''Memphis'') was released on May 15, 1998. It is the successor to [[Windows 95]].<br />
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== Builds ==<br />
{{Builds Legend}}<br />
=== Alpha ===<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.03.1132|Memphis Build 1132]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1351|Memphis Build 1351]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1353|Memphis Build 1353]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1387|Memphis Build 1387]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1397|Memphis Build 1397]]'''<br />
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=== Beta 1 ===<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1400|Memphis Build 1400]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1410|Memphis Build 1410]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1411|Memphis Build 1411]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1415|Memphis Build 1415]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1421|Memphis Build 1421]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1423|Memphis Build 1423]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1434|Memphis Build 1434]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1488|Memphis Build 1488]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1500|Memphis Build 1500]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1511|Memphis Build 1511]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1518|Memphis Build 1518]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1525|Memphis Build 1525]]''''' - Official beta 1<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1532|Memphis Build 1532]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1538|Memphis Build 1538]]'''''<br />
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=== Beta 2 ===<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1544|Windows 98 Build 1544]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1546|Windows 98 Build 1546]]''''' - Official beta 2<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1559|Windows 98 Build 1559]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1564|Windows 98 Build 1564]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1569|Windows 98 Build 1569]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1572|Windows 98 Build 1572]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1577|Windows 98 Build 1577]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1581|Windows 98 Build 1581]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1582|Windows 98 Build 1582]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1588|Windows 98 Build 1588]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1593|Windows 98 Build 1593]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1602|Windows 98 Build 1602]]''''' - Official beta 2.1<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1614|Windows 98 Build 1614]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1619|Windows 98 Build 1619]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1624|Windows 98 Build 1624]]'''''<br />
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=== Beta 3 ===<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1629|Windows 98 Build 1629]]''''' <br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1633|Windows 98 Build 1633]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1650.3|Windows 98 Build 1650.3]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1650.7|Windows 98 Build 1650.7]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1650.8|Windows 98 Build 1650.8]]''''' - Official beta 3<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1658|Windows 98 Build 1658]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1666|Windows 98 Build 1666]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1671|Windows 98 Build 1671]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1676|Windows 98 Build 1676]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1677|Windows 98 Build 1677]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1681|Windows 98 Build 1681]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1687|Windows 98 Build 1687]]'''''<br />
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=== Release Candidate ===<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1691|Windows 98 Build 1691]]''''' - Official Release Candidate 0<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1702|Windows 98 Build 1702]]''''' - Pre-RC1<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1708|Windows 98 Build 1708]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1713|Windows 98 Build 1713]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1720|Windows 98 Build 1720]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1721.3|Windows 98 Build 1721.3]]''''' - Official Release Candidate 1<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1723|Windows 98 Build 1723]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1723.4|Windows 98 Build 1723.4]]''' - Official Release Candidate 2<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1900.3|Windows 98 Build 1900.3]]''''' - Official Release Candidate 3<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1900|Windows 98 Build 1900]]''''' - Official Release Candidate 4<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.1998.5|Windows 98 Build 1998.5]]''' - Official Release Candidate 5<br />
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=== Retail ===<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.1998|Windows 98 Build 1998.6]]''''' - ''Gold'' RTM<br />
=== Service Pack 1 Beta ===<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2017|Windows 98 Build 2017]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2088|Windows 98 Build 2088]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2091|Windows 98 Build 2091]]'''''<br />
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=== Second Edition Beta ===<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2106|Windows 98 SE Build 2106]]''''' - Official Beta 1<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2120|Windows 98 SE Build 2120]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2126|Windows 98 SE Build 2126]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2131|Windows 98 SE Build 2131]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2136|Windows 98 SE Build 2136]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.2150|Windows 98 SE Build 2150]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2150.4|Windows 98 SE Build 2150.4]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2150A|Windows 98 SE Build 2150A]]''''' - Official Beta 2<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.2162|Windows 98 SE Build 2162]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.2170|Windows 98 SE Build 2170]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.2174|Windows 98 SE Build 2174]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.2174A|Windows 98 SE Build 2174A]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 98/4.10.2183|Windows 98 SE Build 2183]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2183A|Windows 98 SE Build 2183A]]''''' - Official Release Candidate 1<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2185A|Windows 98 SE Build 2185A]]''''' - Official Release Candidate 2<br />
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=== Second Edition Retail ===<br />
* '''''[[Windows 98/4.10.2222A|Windows 98 SE Build 2222A]]''''' - ''Second Edition'' RTM<br />
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== References ==<br />
<references/><br />
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[[Category:Operating Systems]]</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_98/4.10.2222A&diff=23396Windows 98/4.10.2222A2019-06-26T19:46:45Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>{{Infobox WindowsBuild<br />
|title = Build of [[Windows 98]]<br />
|image = <br />
|imagecaption = 4.10.2222A<br />
|kernel = 4.10<br />
|arch = x86 (16-bit)<br />
}}<br />
'''Windows 98 build 2222A''' is an updated version of [[Windows 98]], released on May 5, 1999. Many issues with the first version of the operating system were addressed, including the ''49.7 day limit'', and Y2K-incompliance. <br />
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New features include DirectX 6.1, Internet Connection Sharing, [[Internet Explorer 5]], NetMeeting 3.0, and Windows Media Player 6.2.<br />
<br />
==System Requirements==<br />
Minimum system requirements are a 486DX2/66 MHz processor and 16 MB of RAM. <br />
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It is not designed<ref>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304943</ref> to operate with more than 1.5 GB of RAM, however with a patch it can be operated with upto 4GB RAM.<br />
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==Gallery==<br />
<gallery><br />
Win98-Demo.PNG|Demo<br />
</gallery><br />
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==References==<br />
<references></references></div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Win98-Desk.PNG&diff=23395File:Win98-Desk.PNG2019-06-26T19:46:24Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>[[delete|custom graphics; Acrobat, Retrozilla and WinZip are third-party programs and do not come with Windows 98.]]</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_2000/5.0.2195.6717&diff=23226Windows 2000/5.0.2195.67172019-06-10T17:45:23Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>{{Infobox WindowsBuild<br />
|image = <br />
|imagecaption = 5.0.2195.6717<br />
|arch = x86<br />
|sku = Professional<br>Server<br>Advanced Server<br>Datacenter<br />
}}<br />
'''5.0.2195.6717''' is the SP4 RTM of [[Windows 2000]].<br />
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== Gallery ==<br />
<gallery><br />
Win2k-CAD.png|Ctrl+Alt+Delete<br />
Win2k-Login.PNG|Login<br />
</gallery></div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Win10PE-IBMXT.JPG&diff=23181File:Win10PE-IBMXT.JPG2019-06-07T00:01:26Z<p>WILSON2bGg: WILSON2bGg uploaded a new version of File:Win10PE-IBMXT.JPG</p>
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<div>== Summary ==<br />
credit to alias from betaarchive.</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_1.0/Premiere_Edition&diff=23180Windows 1.0/Premiere Edition2019-06-06T23:58:20Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>{{Infobox WindowsBuild<br />
|image = Rd2.png<br />
|imagecaption = Windows Premiere Edition<br />
|kernel = 1.0<br />
|arch = x86 (16-bit)<br />
|bios = 1985-07-31<br />
|tcb_build = [https://thecollectionbook.info/builds/windows/build/17 TCB Build Page]<br />
|tcb_gallery = [https://www.thecollectionbook.info/gallery/?f=/windows/16-bit%20kernel/windows%201.x/premiere%20edition/english TCB Gallery Page]<br />
}}<br />
'''Windows Premiere Edition''' is a preliminary release of [[Windows 1.0]], which shipped to testers in 1985-07-30 to provide an early look at the Windows product, before the final product was finished and ready to be shipped.<br />
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'''''Quoting Tandy Trower (Microsoft Windows 1.0 product manager):'''''<br />
''"But by the early summer of 1985, we were still not close to being done, so Steve declared we should release a preliminary release that I dubbed the "Premiere Edition", which we provided to key application vendors, analysts, and members of the press for feedback and in partial fulfillment of Ballmer’s promise to ship the product that summer."''<br />
''Source:'' [http://technologizer.com/2010/03/08/the-secret-origin-of-windows/2/]<br />
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'''''According to Trower, the memory management code of the operating system needed to be rewritten at a later point in development:'''''<br />
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''"Then just at the point I was starting to feel more optimistic about wrapping things up the architect of the memory management code told me he found a critical defect in its design and would need to re-write it, basically rendering all testing to date useless. I pleaded with him to find an easier way, but after a thorough discussion there was no option other than to let him proceed and restart the testing process."''<br />
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Shown below is a copy of the fourth disk, with updated files from between October 23rd and October 28th, 1985, which were likely provided to testers for further evaluation prior to the product's release.<br />
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=== Alias' copy ===<br />
A [http://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33024 picture] of the floppy disk set of this and a screenshot of the Windows logo screen were provided by a user named Alias, who eventually provided the site with a well preserved and fully original copy, [http://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=33172 currently provided to visitors as a BetaArchive exclusive.].<br />
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== Gallery ==<br />
=== Disk scans ===<br />
<gallery><br />
Windows_1_Premier_Edition_Disk_1_floppy.jpeg|Disk 1<br />
Windows_1_Premier_Edition_Disk_2_floppy.jpeg|Disk 2<br />
Windows_1_Premier_Edition_Disk_3_floppy.jpeg|Disk 3<br />
Windows_1_Premier_Edition_Disk_4_floppy.jpeg|Disk 4<br />
</gallery><br />
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=== Main ===<br />
<gallery><br />
Win10PE-IBMXT.JPG|Premiere Edition running on an IBM PC-XT<br />
</gallery></div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:LangsamSpieler&diff=23033User:LangsamSpieler2019-06-02T04:22:32Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 21943 by MCpillager (talk)</p>
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<div>[[File:Equix_Avatar.jpg]]<br />
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This is my avatar on my Websites.<br />
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Main Site: [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXuMFIw2G_lDtAQWxe818lA Youtube-Channel]</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:LangsamSpieler&diff=23032User:LangsamSpieler2019-06-02T04:22:16Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 21951 by MСpillager (talk)</p>
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<div>[[File:Equix_Avatar.jpg|thumb|This is my avatar on my Websites.]]<br />
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Main Site: [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXuMFIw2G_lDtAQWxe818lA Youtube-Channel]</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:LangsamSpieler&diff=23031User:LangsamSpieler2019-06-02T04:22:03Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 23020 by MCpillager (talk)</p>
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<div>[[File:Equix_Avatar.jpg]]<br />
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This is my avatar on my Websites.<br />
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Main Site: [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXuMFIw2G_lDtAQWxe818lA Youtube-Channel]</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_Neptune/5.5.5000&diff=22857Windows Neptune/5.5.50002019-05-28T22:02:07Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>'''Windows Neptune build 5.50.5000''' is rumoured to be leaked to very few people. The screenshots below have been debated on whether they are real or fake. {{delete|fake}}<br />
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Image:1223741380 or 2860.jpg<br />
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Please use this section to request anything that needs to be done by a moderator/administrator. This can include a request for<br />
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== Creating rules and guidelines ==<br />
Hi all, I think it's time we introduce some clear rules and guidelines for the wiki, preferably supported by consensus. Please comment on the proposals below. If you think there is another topic to be raised, feel free to add it. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:52, 26 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
=== Build naming system ===<br />
Currently there is no clear policy on the build naming system. I've seen a few possible options from discussions on Discord and elsewhere:<br />
* current style: each build has its own page with parent in the same depth, no subpages: for example, [[Windows 10 build 10.0.12345.main_fbl_telemetry_032619-1813]] and [[Windows 10]]<br />
* '''each build has its own page and is a subpage of the parent OS: for example, [[Windows 10/Build 12345]] and [[Windows 10]]'''<br />
* each build has its own page and is separated by colons: for example, [[Windows 10:Build 12345]] and [[Windows 10]]<br />
* all builds reside in the parent page and is separated by headings<br />
Personally,<br />
<br />
* that will lead to fragmentation as there is no clear 'collection' of the builds and one will simply have too many pages with the same 'depth'<br />
* my preference. MediaWiki recognises that it's a subpage and makes some optimisations for that; see [[mediawikiwiki:Subpages]] for details.<br />
* that is confusing as not only does it look cluttered, it looks like a namespace, which it isn't.<br />
* that would lead to fragmentation and the main pages will simply be too large<br />
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Please comment on what you think on them. If you think another option is better, please feel free to add them. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:52, 26 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
==== Comments ====<br />
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{{reply to|WILSON2bGg}} That's pretty much the same as my first option, as the parent OS and the build will still be in the same depth. I've edited the options to make that more clear, and hence removed your option. Please let me know if it's still not correct. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 21:53, 26 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
::{{reply to|X010}} I made the 1st option a little more like my proposal. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 22:01, 26 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
==== Result ====<br />
Thanks to all for the discussion. Based on Discord conversations, there is a 2:2 deadlock on options 1 and 2. We've decided to implement option 2 in the end. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 22:47, 31 March 2019 (BST)<br />
== Uploading images ==<br />
For some reason, I can't upload images, it gives a 503 error.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:06, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|MCpillager}} How are you uploading them - through a URL or through a file source? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:11, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:: {{ping|X010}} Through a file source. It was tested on Firefox 66.0.2 on Android 6.0.1 and Netscape 9.0.0.6 on Windows 98.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:15, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::: {{ping|MCpillager}} Strange, I can upload just fine. Could you try to upload again? If the error still occurs, can you share a screenshot of the problem? Thanks in advance. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:17, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::: {{ping|X010}} Might be because my connection is slow, but I have no problems using the BA Image uploader.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:21, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::: {{ping|MCpillager}} Currently, cross-linking of images between the BA image uploader and the wiki is not available (which is something we are working upon). For the time being then, you can link the image to the BA image uploader from the wiki using an external link (which will not display the image itself however). [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:24, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::: {{ping|X010}} [https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=440227#p440227 Here is the picture.]--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:28, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::: {{ping|MCpillager}} "The requested topic does not exist." [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 22:15, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::: {{ping|X010}} i fixd the link.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers.<br />
== Idea ==<br />
I got a idea to improve your wiki why not make a userbox so like for example this user is a pro at computers or something [[User:Wwepro126|Wwepro126]] ([[User talk:Wwepro126|talk]]) 19:00, 29 April 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|Wwepro126}} Thanks for your suggestion. I've moved it to the correct place. However, at this time I'm not sure whether we need one as a small wiki; if you desire a certain one you can always request its importation. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 20:11, 29 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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==Umm==<br />
This is crossing the line from just linking your accounts on userpages. https://betawiki.net/wiki/User_talk:Bubbles [[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 05:46, 5 May 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|LilShootDawg}} Whoever did it, it was not me. We don't have any 'invites' - anyone is free to register to the wiki. It was an IP user after all, so not sure who did it. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 09:47, 5 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::It was MCpillager. IP and useragent matches. [[User:DeFacto|DeFacto]] ([[User talk:DeFacto|talk]]) 10:01, 5 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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==Moving==<br />
Should we move the Windows page to Microsoft Windows? I will leave a poll below.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - 2147483648 bytéß øf dãtâ 12:09, 13 May 2019 (BST)<br />
===Discussion===<br />
#{{support}} [[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - 2147483648 bytéß øf dãtâ 12:09, 13 May 2019 (BST)<br />
#{{support}} That was it should have been all along. That change to Windows happened because of a misunderstanding on my side. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 12:24, 13 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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==Can't upload images==<br />
Why did you disabled image uploading? [[User:YueLing sr|YueLing sr]] ([[User talk:YueLing sr|talk]]) 05:01, 24 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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uploads work fine for me --[[Image:neptuneflag.png|14px]][[User:Dans34|<span style="color:blue">Dans34]]</span><sup>[[User_talk:Dans34|<span style="color:tomato">Talk</span>]]</sup><sub> </sub> 09:48, 24 May 2019 (BST)<br />
* {{ping|YueLing sr}} You need to have a [[BetaArchive Wiki:Autoconfirmed users|few more edits]]. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 09:57, 24 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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== About Windows NT 8.1 ==<br />
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Found this on Malware Wikia: https://malware.wikia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Windows_NT_6.0 It would be nice if he could be globally banned.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager - Vandalism Police]] ([[User talk:MCpillager|talk]]) 16:19, 27 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:{{ping|MCpillager}} Unless he is the Windows Whistler person, he hasn’t done anything wrong which means that there is '''no''' reason to ban him. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 18:12, 27 May 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Mrpijey&diff=22795User talk:Mrpijey2019-05-26T16:49:09Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>== Fake builds ==<br />
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Why don't we cover fake builds?--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - 2147483648 bytéß øf dãtâ 07:02, 11 May 2019 (BST)<br />
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== Question ==<br />
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Did you create [https://freevandalism.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Mrpijey this account] on the Free Vandalism Wiki? MCpillager blocked it because he didn't know who created it. Thanks. --'''[[User:SebOno|SebOno]]''' ([[User talk:SebOno|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SebOno|contribs]] | [[User:SebOno/Sandbox|sandbox]]) elcomeWay otay etaArchiveBay ikiWay! 15:49, 26 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:I bet he has time for such pointless wikis. --[[User:ATeamInc|ATeamInc]] ([[User talk:ATeamInc|talk]]) 16:20, 26 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{ping|SebOno}} If he barely has time for this wiki, what makes you think he’d have time or dedicate time to MCpillager’s garbage wiki? [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 17:49, 26 May 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_95/4.00.90c&diff=22785Windows 95/4.00.90c2019-05-26T03:57:25Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>{{Infobox WindowsBuild <br />
|imagecaption = 4.00.90c<br />
|kernel = 4.00<br />
|arch = x86<br />
|bios = March 16, 1994<br />
|key = <code>Beta ID: 140743</code><br><code>Password: d8f20fe0a</code><br />
|tcb_build = [https://thecollectionbook.info/builds/windows/build/3867 Click here]<br />
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'''Windows 95 build 90c''' is an early beta build of [[Windows 95]]. It was recently logged on ''The Collection Book'' and submitted to the FTP by Battler.<ref name="da man">https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=37804</ref><br />
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This build has a unique message box where it calls itself ''Windows 94''. This was later replaced in [[Windows 95/4.00.99|build 99]] with the text ''Chicago'' <ref>https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39874&sid=9eed1f36ae2c75fcdb59eb69a536f33e</ref><br />
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== References ==</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:YueLing_sr&diff=22782User talk:YueLing sr2019-05-25T06:19:12Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Created page with "==Plagiarism== {{ping|YueLing sr}} No, BA Wiki aren't in a competition with BetaWiki. This place just exists alongside BetaWiki. Getting back to the topic at hand, there is no..."</p>
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<div>==Plagiarism==<br />
{{ping|YueLing sr}} No, BA Wiki aren't in a competition with BetaWiki. This place just exists alongside BetaWiki. Getting back to the topic at hand, there is no need to steal that one paragraph when you could clearly write something like it yourself, much like I did [https://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_XP/5.0.2202.1.ntvbl06.000202-1835 here]. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg - Plagiarism Police]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 07:19, 25 May 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_XP/5.1.2531.xpclient.010730-1640&diff=22757Windows XP/5.1.2531.xpclient.010730-16402019-05-22T12:28:56Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 22752 by YueLing sr (talk) removed BetaWiki material, is it that hard to write it yourself?</p>
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<div>{{infobox Buildinfo<br />
|image = <br />
|imagecaption = <br />
|kernel = NT 5.1<br />
|arch= x86<br />
|mcb_link = [https://thecollectionbook.info/builds/windows/build/330 QB2BW-8PJ2D-9X7JK-BCCRT-D233Y]<br />
|sku = Professional<br />
|bios = July 31 2001<br />
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==Gallery==<br />
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{{stub}}</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_XP/5.1.2531.xpclient.010730-1640&diff=22756Windows XP/5.1.2531.xpclient.010730-16402019-05-22T12:28:13Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 22754 by MCpillager (talk)</p>
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<div>{{infobox Buildinfo<br />
|image = <br />
|imagecaption = <br />
|kernel = NT 5.1<br />
|arch= x86<br />
|mcb_link = [https://thecollectionbook.info/builds/windows/build/330 QB2BW-8PJ2D-9X7JK-BCCRT-D233Y]<br />
|sku = Professional<br />
|bios = July 31 2001 (not required)<br />
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Windows XP build 2531 is a Release Candidate 2 build of [[Windows XP]]. The original leaker modified the build to remove the timebomb and activation, added TweakUI, and add customized wallpapers. The setup font is also slightly different in the GUI stage and Command Prompt defaults at a white background with aqua large text.<br />
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==Gallery==<br />
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{{stub}}</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_Longhorn/6.0.4074.idx02.040425-1535&diff=22642Windows Longhorn/6.0.4074.idx02.040425-15352019-05-17T15:29:37Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 22641 by X010 (talk) content was clearly plagiarized from BetaWiki</p>
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<div>{{infobox WindowsBuild<br />
|image = Windows Longhorn Build 4074 Winver And Aero Stars.JPG<br />
|imagecaption = Windows Longhorn Build 4074<br />
|kernel = 6.0<br />
|key = TCP8W-T8PQJ-WWRRH-QH76C-99FBW<br />
|arch = x86, x64, ia64<br />
|tcb_build = [http://www.thecollectionbook.info/builds/windows/build/527]<br />
|sku = Professional<br />
|bios = April 26, 2004<br />
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'''Windows Longhorn Build 4074''' is an official WinHEC 2004 preview build, which leaked in May, 2004.<br />
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It was among the first to include the (then-new) [[Windows/Visual Styles/Jade|Jade]] visual style, and the Segoe UI font. Many icons from [[Windows XP]] were replaced with new, high-resolution versions.<br />
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There are three different architecture compilations of this build. These are x86, amd64, and IA-64; all of which have been leaked and are available on the BetaArchive FTP server.<br />
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==Confusion==<br />
Many people confuse the build number with "4047" instead of 4074.<br />
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==Features==<br />
Many features that were present in other builds have been removed or hidden in this build. As a result, the features that remained were improved, which include:<br />
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* '''Complete DWM Aero Effects''' - This build, unlike many other leaked builds, is the first build to have complete Aero effects in Explorer and Internet Explorer. However, a registry modification is required to extend the effect into the full UI of Explorer and Internet Explorer. The green translucent effect is used natively in this build instead of transparent "Glass".<br />
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* '''Aero Stars''' - An animated desktop which shows stars bouncing around the screen.<br />
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* '''Improved Preview and Filter Panes''' - This build has these panes improved, especially the Preview Pane, which is more functional than its leaked server counterpart, [[Windows Server 2008/6.0.4066.main.040226-1010|Server2008:4066.main.040226-1010]]<br />
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* '''Animated Preview Pane Aurora''' - This build contains an Animated Preview Pane Aurora, but requires some modification to enable it.<br />
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'''Only the x86 version has these features.'''<br />
==Bugs==<br />
There are some bugs/issues present in this build, some of which are:<br />
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* '''Folder Creation Bug''' - There is a bug present in this build that prevents occasional creation of folders in Explorer. However, several unofficial patches have been created to address this issue. You can try this fix (that may or may not work). Save the following in a text file and change its extension to <code>.reg</code>. Then double-click it to add it to the registry.<br />
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00<br />
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.Folder]<br />
@="Folder"<br />
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* '''Faulty File Browse UI''' - The main File Browse UI has two noticeable bugs. The first being that the Navigation Bar only allows for navigation by clicking on parent directories in the bar. The second being that the Filter and Preview panes may occasionally appear black or show parts of content behind the window.<br />
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* '''Broken Safe Mode''' - This build has a glitch with the Explorer Safe Mode desktop prompt. The prompt will appear titled "Desktop" and will ask to proceed to work in safe mode or to System Recovery. Clicking Yes will hardly perform any action and will bring up another exact prompt. The desktop will not appear with the prompt and Explorer may not launch. However you can launch Task Manager by pressing <code>Ctrl+Shift+Esc</code> with which you can launch any programs you need or even ''browse'' in a limited way (By opening the Run dialog and clicking Browse).<br />
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==Enabling Aero==<br />
''Main article: [[/Enabling Aero]]''<br />
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==Gallery==<br />
<gallery><br />
image:Windows Longhorn Build 4074 Winver And Aero Stars.JPG|The ''About Windows'' dialog box in Windows "Longhorn" build 4074<br />
image:Lh4074desk.jpg|The Windows Sidebar displaying a notification archive<br />
image:4074Glitch.jpg|File browse Preview and Filter bars appearing black<br />
image:4074SelfHealingNTFS.png|Self-Healing NTFS.<br />
image:4074Mousegrid.png|The Mousegrid speech recognition command in 4074.<br />
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[[Category:Windows "Longhorn"]]</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:WILSON2bGg&diff=22604User talk:WILSON2bGg2019-05-17T12:21:39Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>== Mover ==<br />
To help you in moving pages into the correct naming scheme, I've added the mover right to your account. This means that while moving, you should have an additional option to move without redirect which you must select. This saves me time as I don't have to delete the old redirect all the time. Thanks. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:55, 6 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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== about build 2000.3 ==<br />
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I used to have an BetaWiki account called Longhorn5219, but I abandoned it.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:51, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:What are you trying to tell me? I deleted it since you clearly plagiarized the images and we can’t have that crap on the wiki. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 18:01, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{ping|MCpillager}} The image can be restored. Rob, see [https://betawiki.net/wiki/Special:Log?type=upload&user=Longhorn5219&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= this log]. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 13:31, 25 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::Then look at the images, and notice that most of them aren't good hence the little box that says why. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 10:56, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::{{ping|LilShootDawg}} I randomly looked at some of the images, and can't find anything against them. Could you link to some which are bad under your definition? MCpillager, should I restore the images which were deleted earlier? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 11:30, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::{{ping|X010}} yes please.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 12:09, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::{{ping|MCpillager}} {{done}}. However, please mention on the file description page that you previously uploaded it on BetaWiki under a different name; after all, the concern Rob raised was valid (through incorrect in this case). [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 16:48, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::Also, {{ping|MCpillager}}, couldn't you have redone the screenshots so they aren't registered to BetaWiki.Net. That was my other gripe about them. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 21:03, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::{{ping|X010}} https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-Demo.png Isn't cropped. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-MyComputer.png Isn't cropped. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-FirstBoot.png Not highest resolution. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-FirstBoot.png Not highest res. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98_4.10.1666.png Red fucking outline. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-InternetExplorer.jpg jpg https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-Desktop.jpg jpg https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5734-ControlPanel.jpg jpg etc. etc. etc. You get the idea. {{unsigned|LilShootDawg}}<br />
:::::::{{ping|LilShootDawg}} Maybe my standards are low, but ''none'' of them are that bad for you to be cribbing like this (it's hardly unusable, and the red outline can be fixed). Sure, they are nowhere the best images that you could make. But why don't ''you'' improve on them? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:43, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::{{ping|X010}} It would just be easier to make new ones and delete these. He has a legitimate gripe about these; [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-Demo.png 1], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-MyComputer.png 2], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-InternetExplorer.jpg 3], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5734-ControlPanel.jpg 4] and [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-Desktop.jpg 5]. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 21:50, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::{{ping|X010}} Why would I waste time working on trashy screenshots. It's not like the guidelines weren't there. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 22:15, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::::{{Ping|LilShootDawg}} Those JPGS are unleaked screenies. It is normal for first boots to be in low-res, and Windows98 4.10.1666.png was NOT uploaded by me.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 08:25, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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If they were really unleaked {{reply to|MCpillager}}, then I would expect a note to that effect to be included in the image, and some proof that the build existed as per the [[BetaArchive Wiki:Wiki Guidelines|wiki guidelines]]. <br><br />
{{reply to|WILSON2bGg}} Might be missing something, but what are you trying to show with these links? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 11:27, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::::I’m showing you bad screenshots {{ping|X010}}. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 17:30, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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== Stop ==<br />
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Stop reverting my edits without a reason, or ill PM x010.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - 2147483648 bytéß øf dãtâ 06:31, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:{{reply to|MCpillager}} making threats, are we? --[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 12:03, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{Ping|AlphaBeta}} [https://ibb.co/xsSxkBm stop being a retard.] --[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] We mwust stawp [https://tinyurl.com/y6qt2m2z him] he ugly 12:31, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:::That's as childish as it could possibly be, {{reply to|MCpillager}}... --[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 12:41, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::::While WILSON2bGg should have provided a reason for reverting that edits, I don't think that "stop this or I'll do that" wouldn't be classified as threatening. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 13:13, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::{{ping|MCpillager}} A, don’t threaten me like that. Do this or else crap like that is clearly a threat. B, I undid them due to poor grammar. Feel free to add any information that you added back if it is properly typed out and with proper grammar. Also, I’d your trying to help the wiki, editing on a phone with that poor of grammar isn’t the way to go. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 13:18, 17 May 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:WILSON2bGg&diff=22603User talk:WILSON2bGg2019-05-17T12:18:56Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>== Mover ==<br />
To help you in moving pages into the correct naming scheme, I've added the mover right to your account. This means that while moving, you should have an additional option to move without redirect which you must select. This saves me time as I don't have to delete the old redirect all the time. Thanks. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:55, 6 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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== about build 2000.3 ==<br />
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I used to have an BetaWiki account called Longhorn5219, but I abandoned it.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:51, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:What are you trying to tell me? I deleted it since you clearly plagiarized the images and we can’t have that crap on the wiki. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 18:01, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{ping|MCpillager}} The image can be restored. Rob, see [https://betawiki.net/wiki/Special:Log?type=upload&user=Longhorn5219&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= this log]. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 13:31, 25 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::Then look at the images, and notice that most of them aren't good hence the little box that says why. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 10:56, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::{{ping|LilShootDawg}} I randomly looked at some of the images, and can't find anything against them. Could you link to some which are bad under your definition? MCpillager, should I restore the images which were deleted earlier? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 11:30, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::{{ping|X010}} yes please.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 12:09, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::{{ping|MCpillager}} {{done}}. However, please mention on the file description page that you previously uploaded it on BetaWiki under a different name; after all, the concern Rob raised was valid (through incorrect in this case). [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 16:48, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::Also, {{ping|MCpillager}}, couldn't you have redone the screenshots so they aren't registered to BetaWiki.Net. That was my other gripe about them. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 21:03, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::{{ping|X010}} https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-Demo.png Isn't cropped. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-MyComputer.png Isn't cropped. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-FirstBoot.png Not highest resolution. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-FirstBoot.png Not highest res. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98_4.10.1666.png Red fucking outline. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-InternetExplorer.jpg jpg https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-Desktop.jpg jpg https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5734-ControlPanel.jpg jpg etc. etc. etc. You get the idea. {{unsigned|LilShootDawg}}<br />
:::::::{{ping|LilShootDawg}} Maybe my standards are low, but ''none'' of them are that bad for you to be cribbing like this (it's hardly unusable, and the red outline can be fixed). Sure, they are nowhere the best images that you could make. But why don't ''you'' improve on them? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:43, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::{{ping|X010}} It would just be easier to make new ones and delete these. He has a legitimate gripe about these; [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-Demo.png 1], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-MyComputer.png 2], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-InternetExplorer.jpg 3], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5734-ControlPanel.jpg 4] and [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-Desktop.jpg 5]. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 21:50, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::{{ping|X010}} Why would I waste time working on trashy screenshots. It's not like the guidelines weren't there. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 22:15, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::::{{Ping|LilShootDawg}} Those JPGS are unleaked screenies. It is normal for first boots to be in low-res, and Windows98 4.10.1666.png was NOT uploaded by me.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 08:25, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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If they were really unleaked {{reply to|MCpillager}}, then I would expect a note to that effect to be included in the image, and some proof that the build existed as per the [[BetaArchive Wiki:Wiki Guidelines|wiki guidelines]]. <br><br />
{{reply to|WILSON2bGg}} Might be missing something, but what are you trying to show with these links? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 11:27, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::::I’m showing you bad screenshots {{ping|X010}}. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 17:30, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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== Stop ==<br />
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Stop reverting my edits without a reason, or ill PM x010.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - 2147483648 bytéß øf dãtâ 06:31, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:{{reply to|MCpillager}} making threats, are we? --[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 12:03, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{Ping|AlphaBeta}} [https://ibb.co/xsSxkBm stop being a retard.] --[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] We mwust stawp [https://tinyurl.com/y6qt2m2z him] he ugly 12:31, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:::That's as childish as it could possibly be, {{reply to|MCpillager}}... --[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 12:41, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::::While WILSON2bGg should have provided a reason for reverting that edits, I don't think that "stop this or I'll do that" wouldn't be classified as threatening. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 13:13, 17 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::{{ping|MCpillager}} A, don’t threaten me like that. Do this or else crap like that is clearly a threat. B, I undid them due to poor grammar. Feel free to add any information that you added back if it is properly typed out and with proper grammar. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 13:18, 17 May 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_Longhorn/6.0.3718.lab06_N.021119-1730&diff=22602Windows Longhorn/6.0.3718.lab06 N.021119-17302019-05-17T12:16:29Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 22594 by MCpillager (talk) Poor grammar</p>
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|image = Lh3718desk.JPG<br />
|imagecaption = Windows Longhorn Build 3718<br />
|kernel = 6.0<br />
|arch= x86<br />
|mcb_link = [http://www.thecollectionbook.info/builds/windows/build/517 CKY24-Q8QRH-X3KMR-C6BCY-T847Y]<br />
|sku = Media Center Edition, Preinstallation Environment, Professional<br />
|bios = November 20, 2002<br />
}}<br />
Out of all of the 3xxx builds, Windows Longhorn 3718. The windows do not contain glass effects at all until later milestones, but there are minimize and mazimize effects. It can be enabled in the Display Properties. This particular build is only one out of 3 in Milestone 3.<br />
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Not surprisingly, this build is almost completely the same as that of Build 3706 and Build 3713, and as such, is also not much different from Windows NT 5 (Windows 2000/XP/.NET Server 2003) at this point.<br />
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{{stub}}</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_Longhorn/6.0.3718.lab06_N.021119-1730&diff=22593Windows Longhorn/6.0.3718.lab06 N.021119-17302019-05-16T19:55:20Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 22564 by MCpillager (talk)</p>
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<div>{{infobox Buildinfo<br />
|image = Lh3718desk.JPG<br />
|imagecaption = Windows Longhorn Build 3718<br />
|kernel = 6.0<br />
|arch= x86<br />
|mcb_link = [http://www.thecollectionbook.info/builds/windows/build/517 CKY24-Q8QRH-X3KMR-C6BCY-T847Y]<br />
|sku = Media Center Edition, Preinstallation Environment, Professional<br />
|bios = November 20, 2002<br />
}}<br />
Out of all of the 3xxx builds, Windows Longhorn 3718. The windows do not contain glass effects at all until later milestones, but there are minimize and mazimize effects. It can be enabled in the Display Properties. This particular build is only one out of 3 in Milestone 3.<br />
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Not surprisingly, this build is almost completely the same as that of Build 3706 and Build 3713, and as such, is also not much different from Windows NT 5 (Windows 2000/XP/.NET Server 2003) at this point.<br />
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{{stub}}</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Taylorover9000&diff=22528User talk:Taylorover90002019-05-14T22:57:58Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 22414 by MCpillager (talk) You aren't a moderator, don't go around and moderate people's talk pages</p>
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<div>== Info and corrections ==<br />
Hello, you have edited an article on BetaArchive Wiki, both articles were moved since you used the incorrect buildtag, removed some unnecessary information and correct the language (you mostly forgot that ''developer'' is spelled with ''deve'' and not ''dev''). I don't want to keep you from editing, you're doing a great job, but before you add information, check it to be sure it is correct.<br><br>Thank You, [[User:Rob Jansen|Rob Jansen]] 05:51, 15 September 2011 (GMT)<br />
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== Again... ==<br />
<br />
Please note that most of your latest revisions have been removed due to either being controversial or wrong information.<br><br />
Please keep such information out of the wiki.<br><br />
<br />
[[User:Rob Jansen|Rob Jansen]] 13:07, 2 October 2011 (GMT)<br />
- modified on request of mrpijey : [[User:The Distractor|The Distractor]] 22:19, 2 October 2011 (GMT) -<br />
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== Once again! ==<br />
<br />
Once again I have undone edits since they are either:<br><br />
1) Do not exist, in case of your [[Windows:8]] edit.<br><br />
2) Are totally Fake in your case of the [[Windows:Odyssey]] edit, did you not see the title of the topic?<br />
<br />
Please note that these edits are wrong and please confirm them if they are real in the first place.<br><br />
[[User:Rob Jansen|Rob Jansen]] 07:18, 11 October 2011 (GMT)<br />
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==Regarding your Vista edit==<br />
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I find your editing totally unnecesary, though I won't undo your changes. Just wondering why did you have to do it...?<br />
[[User:DeFacto|DeFacto]] 19:39, 9 December 2011 (CET)<br />
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== Me ==<br />
At least I try people... at least I try. (Well, mostly try.) Besides, on [[Windows:8|Windows 8]] I have put "real" builds (Such as Build 8102)<br />
<br />
I am a fan of Microsoft Windows!<br />
<br />
===My favorite Windows Versions:===<br />
<br />
Builds 7955 - 8102 of Windows 8<br />
<br />
Windows 7<br />
<br />
Early Build of Windows Server 2008 R2 (6801)<br />
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Early Builds of Windows Vista (M3 - M7, M8/3790)<br />
<br />
Mid-Builds of Windows XP (2202, 2250 - 2430)<br />
<br />
Windows Neptune (Canceled)<br />
<br />
Windows Nashville (Canceled)<br />
<br />
Windows 1.0 DR5 - Beta<br />
<br />
Early Builds of Windows 95 (56 - 189)<br />
<br />
Early Builds of Windows 98 (1132, 1351 - 1400, 1702)<br />
<br />
Early Build of Windows NT 3.1 (October 1991)<br />
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Early Builds of Windows NT 4.0 (1130 - 1227)<br />
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Early - Mid-Builds of Windows 2000 (1515 - 1729, 1946, 2202)<br />
<br />
Early Builds of Windows ME (2332 - 2380)<br />
<br />
=== Caution ===<br />
I now have to be very careful, I have 1 ban. (Till November 11) 1 more ban (I think) and i'm GONE.<br />
<br />
== Begging and pleading definetly won't get you back. ==<br />
- DeFacto<br />
<br />
C'mon guys! Show some sympathy!</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_10/6.4.9834.fbl_partner_eeap.140908-0936&diff=21696Windows 10/6.4.9834.fbl partner eeap.140908-09362019-05-06T22:51:46Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>{{infobox Buildinfo<br />
|image = Windows10-9834-Desktop.png<br />
|imagecaption = Windows 10 Build 9834<br />
|kernel = 6.4<br />
|arch= x86, x64<br />
|mcb_link = [http://www.thecollectionbook.info/builds/windows/build/1409]<br />
|sku = Technical Preview<br />
|bios = September 9, 2014<br />
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'''Windows 10 build 9834''' (with a build tag of '''6.4.9834.fbl_partner_eeap.140908-0936''') is a pre-release build of the [[Microsoft]] [[Windows 10]] operating system. Several screenshots of this build were released on September 11, 2014.<ref name="Windows Threshold build 9834 screenshots leak, shows a lot of new features.">Sams, Brad. (September 11, 2014). [http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-threshold-build-9834-screenshots-leak-shows-a-lot-of-new-features "Windows Threshold build 9834 screenshots leak, shows a lot of new features"]</ref> The released screenshots show windowed Windows Store applications, a notification center, multiple user desktops, and a revised [[Start Menu|Start menu]] that hosts pinned Windows Store applications within its right-hand column.<ref name="Windows Threshold build 9834 screenshots leak, shows a lot of new features."/> This build can boot on current date without complaining about expired certificates.<br />
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A video of this build was also released, which shows how the Start menu adjusts its size based on the number of Windows Store applications pinned to it, windowed applications, multiple user desktops, and an option to use the Start screen introduced in [[Windows 8]] instead of the Start menu.<ref>YouTube. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--wgAsHWNRE "Windows 9: Das neue Startmenü in Aktion"]</ref><br />
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The watermark on the desktop identifies this build as a ''Windows Technical Preview''.<br />
<br />
On December 8, 2014, 9834 leaked in Chinese.<br />
On September 19, 2015, this build leaked in English, German, Korean and Japanese.<br />
This build, along with other Windows 10 builds from fbl_partner_eeap lab, boots on current date without complaining without about expired certificates.<br />
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==References==<br />
<references/><br />
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[[Category:Windows 10]]</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_8.1&diff=21540Windows 8.12019-05-05T20:44:01Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 21514 by MCpillager (talk) Fakes aren't allowed</p>
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<div>{{Infobox Windows<br />
|image = Screenshot (3).png<br />
|imagecaption = Windows 8.1 build 9431's Start Screen<br />
|codename = Blue<br />
|kernel = NT 6.3<br />
|arch = x86, x64, ARM<br />
|build = [[/6.3.9600.16384.winblue rtm.130821-1623|6.3.9600]]<br />
|release = 2013-10-22<br />
|licence = Microsoft EULA<br />
|support = 2023-01-10<br />
|previous = [[Windows 8]]<br />
|next = [[Windows 10]]<br />
}}<br />
'''Windows 8.1''' (codenamed ''Blue'') is a free update for the [[Windows 8]] operating system. It is version 6.3 of the NT kernel.<br />
<br />
Tami Reller, corporate vice president and chief financial officer of the Microsoft Windows division, announced the release of the Windows 8.1 Preview during the ''Build Windows'' conference in June, 2013.<br />
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Enhancements have been made to the overall Windows 8 experience, including the reinstatement of the Start button, the return of unified search results, new Start screen customization options, and horizontal application snapping improvements with support for up to 4 apps snapped depending on screen resolution. The minimum resolution for snapping has been reduced to 1024X768.<br />
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Windows 8.1 also includes new ''Alarm'', ''Calculator'', ''Movie Moments'', and ''Sound Recorder'' applications. [[Internet Explorer 11]] was also released with this update.<br />
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An update of Windows 8.1, known as '''Windows 8.1 Update 1''', was released on 8th April 2014. It allows Store apps to be pinned and includes other updates as well. It also reduces the minimum system requirements for Windows, so that it can be installed on computers having only 1GB of RAM and 16GB of storage.<br />
==New features==<br />
===RTM===<br />
Windows 8.1 was not that much of an revolutionary change as Windows 8 was from Windows 7, rather it mostly focused on improvements, which however are significant.<br />
# The Start screen can now show the Windows desktop as its background.<br />
# The possible sizes for app icons on the Start Screen was increased, with smaller and bigger options.<br />
# Snap from Windows 8 has been improved, now allowing up to 4 apps to be snapped depending on resolution, and reducing the minimum resolution required for snapping to 1024X768.<br />
# Camera can now be launched from the lock screen by swipping up.<br />
# New apps such as Health and Fitness were introduced, and existing apps were greatly improved. Store was also redesigned.<br />
# The PC Settings app was redesigned, and now includes far more options.<br />
# Unified search, present in Windows 7 but removed in Windows 8, was bought back.<br />
# The Start button was bought back.<br />
# The option to show the desktop instead of the Start screen was introduced.<br />
# OneDrive was greatly improved, and included the ability to set files as 'placeholders'.<br />
# New wallpapers were added.<br />
# Full camera backup support to OneDrive was added.<br />
=== Update 1===<br />
# Metro apps can now be pinned to the taskbar.<br />
# Metro apps have a desktop-like title bar that shows whenever the mouse is moved to the top part of the app.<br />
# Search and Power(only for >8 inches displays) icons are now shown on the start screen.<br />
# The taskbar can be invoked in the Start Menu and metro apps by moving the mouse to the bottom of the display.<br />
# PC Settings now shows a option to use the legacy Control Panel, and it also adds some new options such as the ability to view disk space.<br />
# Optimizations were done for reducing the disk space to 16 GB HDD and reducing the RAM to 1 GB. A new mode called as WIMBoot was introduced for such devices, which are intended to be low-cost tablets.<br />
# A new edition called Windows 8.1 with Bing was introduced, free to tablets having displays <10 inches. This version is essentially identical to Windows 8.1 with some minor restrictions for manufacturers.<br />
=== Removed or degraded features===<br />
# The introductory guide about the Start menu at the post-OOBE stage was removed.<br />
# Windows Easy Transfer included in Windows 8.1 no longer includes the option to transfer files and settings to another device, only vice-versa.<br />
==Builds==<br />
{{Builds Legend}}<br />
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===Milestone 1===<br />
*'''[[/6.2.9220|6.2.9220]]'''<br />
*[[/6.2.9299.0.fbl partner out06.130117-1707|6.2.9299.0.fbl_partner_out06.130117-1707]] - Leaked on March 30, 2019<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9319.x86fre.fbl eeap.130208-1820|6.3.9319.x86fre.fbl_eeap.130208-1820]]'''<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9326.0.fbl uip dev2.130225-2000|6.3.9326.0.fbl_uip_dev2.130225-2000]]'''<br />
*'''[[/6.3.9345.0.winmain bluem1.130218-1736|6.3.9345.0.winmain_bluem1.130218-1736]]''' - files from this build are present after updating build 9385<br />
*'''[[/6.3.9347.winmain bluem1.130220-1504|6.3.9347.winmain_bluem1.130220-1504]]'''<br />
*'''''[[/6.3.9354.fbl partner out11.130301-2000|6.3.9354.fbl_partner_out11.130301-2000]]'''''<br />
*'''''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9364.fbl partner out13.130315-2105|6.3.9364.0.fbl_partner_out13.130315-2105]]''''' - Leaked on 24th March 2013.<br />
*'''''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9369.0.fbl partner out14.130324-1300|6.3.9369.0.fbl_partner_out14.130324-1300]]''''' - Leaked on 16th April 2013.<br />
<br />
=== Milestone 2===<br />
*'''''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9374.0.fbl partner out15.130329-2355|6.3.9374.0.fbl_partner_out15.130329-2355]]''''' - Firstly partially leaked, then fully leaked on 19th April 2013.<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9379.0.fbl partner out16.130410-0711|6.3.9379.0.fbl_partner_out16.130410-0711]]'''<br />
*'''''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9385.fbl partner out17.130415-2049|6.3.9385.fbl_partner_out17.130415-2049]]''''' - Leaked on May 1st, 2013<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9385.3.fbl uip dev2.130326-0847|6.3.9385.3.fbl_uip_dev2.130326-0847]]''' - files from this build are present after updating build 9385<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9391.3.fbl partner out18.130426-2000|6.3.9391.3.fbl_partner_out18.130426-2000]]''' - files from this build are present after updating build 9385<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9385.fbl partner out17.130415-2049#Files from other builds|6.3.9394.0]]''' - files from this build are present after updating build 9385<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9400.0.fbl sfs dev1 pr.130506-2030|6.3.9400.0.fbl_sfs_dev1_pr.130506-2030]]'''<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9402.0.winmain.130507-1720|6.3.9402.0.winmain.130507-1720]]'''<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9403.fbl srv2 partners.130509-2000|6.3.9403.0.fbl_srv2_partners.130509-2000]]'''<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9405.0.fbl partner out20.130510-2330|6.3.9405.0.fbl_partner_out20.130510-2330]]''' - files from this build are present after updating build 9385<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9410.0.fbl partner out21.130522-1653|6.3.9410.0.fbl_partner_out21.130522-1653]]'''<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9415.fbl partner out22.130525-0845|6.3.9415.0.fbl_partner_out22.130525-0845]]'''<br />
=== Milestone Preview ===<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9416.0.winmain bluemp.130528-1832|6.3.9416.0.winmain_bluemp.130528-1832]]'''<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9418.0.winmain.130530-1905|6.3.9418.0.winmain.130530-1905]]'''<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9420.0.winmain.130603-1734|6.3.9420.0.winmain.130603-1734]]'''<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9422.0.winmain bluemp.130605-1735|6.3.9422.0.winmain_bluemp.130605-1735]]'''<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9428.0.winmain bluemp.130612-1715|6.3.9428.0.winmain_bluemp.130612-1715]]'''<br />
*'''''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9431.0.winmain bluemp.130615-1214|6.3.9431.0.winmain_bluemp.130615-1214]]''''' - Official Preview<br />
=== Pre-RTM ===<br />
*'''''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9471.0.fbl partner out30.130726-2004|6.3.9471.0.fbl_partner_out30.130726-2004]]'''''<br />
*'''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9472.0.winmain.130729-1720|6.3.9472.0.winmain.130729-1720]]'''''<br />
*'''''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9477.0.fbl partner out31.130803-0736|6.3.9477.0.fbl_partner_out31.130803-0736]]'''''<br />
*'''''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9483.0.winblue rtm.130809-2020|6.3.9483.0.winblue_rtm.130809-2020]]''''<br />
<br />
=== RTM ===<br />
*'''''[[Windows 8.1/6.3.9600.16384.winblue rtm.130821-1623|6.3.9600.16384.winblue_rtm.130821-1623]]'''''<br />
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[[Category:Operating Systems]]</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_95&diff=21070Windows 952019-05-03T23:32:13Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>{{Infobox Windows<br />
|title = Version of [[Windows|Microsoft Windows]]<br />
|image = Windows 95 Logo.png<br />
|imagecaption = Windows 95<br />
|codename = Chicago<br />
|kernel = 16/32-bit hybrid, ver. 4.00<br />
|arch = x86<br />
|build = [[Windows 95/4.00.950|4.00.950 (RTM)]] <br> [[Windows 95/4.00.951|4.00.951 (OSR1)]] <br> [[Windows 95/4.00.1111|4.00.1111 (OSR2)]] <br> [[Windows 95/4.00.1214|4.03.1214 (OSR2.1)]] <br> [[Windows 95/4.00.1216|4.03.1216 (OSR2.5)]]<br />
|release = 1995-08-24 (RTM) <br> 1996-02-14 (OSR1) <br> 1996-08-24 (OSR2.0) <br> 1997-08-27 (OSR2.1) <br> 1997-11-26 (OSR2.5)<br />
|licence = Microsoft EULA<br />
|support = 2001-12-31<br />
|previous = [[Windows 3.x]]<br />
|next = [[Windows Nashville]]<br>[[Windows 98]]<br />
}}<br />
[[File:Windows_95_Box.jpg|thumb|Windows 95 Box]]<br />
'''Windows 95''' (codenamed ''Chicago'') is the first 16/32-bit hybrid version of [[Microsoft]] [[Windows]]. It featured the new explorer shell, and [[Windows Desktop Update]] (also known as the IE 4 Shell Update) can be installed to it in order to get the updated shell like in [[Windows 98]].<br />
<br />
[[File:Microsoft Windows 95 Concept.jpg|thumb|An Early Windows 95 Concept]]<br />
== Builds ==<br />
{{Builds Legend}}<br />
===Pre-M4===<br />
<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/Usability Testing Builds|Usability Testing Builds]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.34|Chicago Build 34]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.40|Chicago Build 40]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.40e|Chicago Build 40e]]'''<br />
* ''[[Windows 95/4.00.45|Chicago Build 45]]''<br />
<br />
===M4 and M5===<br />
<br />
* ''[[Windows 95/4.00.58|Chicago Build 58]]'' - Mislabel of 58s, but real one probably exists<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.58s|Chicago Build 58s]]''''' - PDK/M4<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.73f|Chicago Build 73f]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.73g|Chicago Build 73g]]''''' - PDK2/M5<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.81|Chicago Build 81]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.89|Chicago Build 89]]''' - Scene leak<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.90c|Chicago Build 90c]]'''''<br />
<br />
===Beta 1===<br />
<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.99|Chicago Build 99]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.108|Chicago Build 108]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.116|Chicago Build 116]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.117|Chicago Build 117]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.122|Chicago Build 122]]''''' - Official Beta 1/M6<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.165|Chicago Build 165]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.166|Chicago Build 166]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.170|Chicago Build 170]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.180|Chicago Build 180]]''''' - Beta 1.3/M6.3<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.189|Windows 95 Build 189]]''''' - Beta 1.4/M6.4<br />
<br />
===Beta 2===<br />
<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.216|Windows 95 Build 216]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.222|Windows 95 Build 222]]''''' - First multilingual beta<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.224|Windows 95 Build 224]]''''' - Official beta 2/M7<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.225|Windows 95 Build 225]]''''' - Chinese Beta 1<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.226|Windows 95 Build 226]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.256|Windows 95 Build 256]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.265|Windows 95 Build 265]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.267|Windows 95 Build 267]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.275|Windows 95 Build 275]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.285|Windows 95 Build 285]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.286|Windows 95 Build 286]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.302|Windows 95 Build 302]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.306|Windows 95 Build 306]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.311|Windows 95 Build 311]]''''' - January 1995 Test Release<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.314|Windows 95 Build 314]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.322|Windows 95 Build 322]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.323|Windows 95 Build 323]]''''' - Japanese Beta 1<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.324|Windows 95 Build 324]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.326|Windows 95 Build 326]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.327|Windows 95 Build 327]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.328|Windows 95 Build 328]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.329|Windows 95 Build 329]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.330|Windows 95 Build 330]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.331|Windows 95 Build 331]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.335|Windows 95 Build 335]]'''<br />
<br />
===Beta 3===<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.337|Windows 95 Build 337]]''''' - Final Beta of Windows 95<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.340|Windows 95 Build 340]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.342|Windows 95 Build 342]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.345|Windows 95 Build 345]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.346|Windows 95 Build 346]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.347|Windows 95 Build 347]]''''' - Official beta 3/M8/March 1995 Test Release<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.401|Windows 95 Build 401]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.404|Windows 95 Build 404]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.405|Windows 95 Build 405]]''''' - February 1995 Test Release<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.420|Windows 95 Build 420]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.426|Windows 95 Build 426]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.429|Windows 95 Build 429]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.431|Windows 95 Build 431]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.435|Windows 95 Build 435]]''''' - Chinese Beta 2<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.436|Windows 95 Build 436]]'''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.437|Windows 95 Build 437]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.440|Windows 95 Build 440]]''''' - April 1995 Test Release<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.445|Windows 95 Build 445]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.450|Windows 95 Build 450]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.456|Windows 95 Build 456]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.457|Windows 95 Build 457]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.462|Windows 95 Build 462]]''''' <br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.468|Windows 95 Build 468]]''''' - May 1995 Test Release<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.469|Windows 95 Build 469]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.474|Windows 95 Build 474]]'''''<br />
<br />
===Pre-RC===<br />
<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.480|Windows 95 Build 480]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.481|Windows 95 Build 481]]''' - June 1995 Test Release<br />
<br />
===Release Candidate 1===<br />
<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.484|Windows 95 Build 484]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.490|Windows 95 Build 490]]''''' - Official Release Candidate<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.499|Windows 95 Build 499]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.501|Windows 95 Build 501]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.502|Windows 95 Build 502]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.708|Windows 95 Build 708]]''''' - Simple Chinese Beta 3<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.720|Windows 95 Build 720]]''''' - Chinese/Japanese Beta 3<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.810|Windows 95 Build 810]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.812|Windows 95 Build 812]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.818|Windows 95 Build 818]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.842|Windows 95 Build 842]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.852|Windows 95 Build 852]]'''<br />
<br />
===Release Candidate 2===<br />
<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.950 r-2|Windows 95 Build 950 r-2]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.950 r-3|Windows 95 Build 950 r-3]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.950 r-4|Windows 95 Build 950 r-4]]'''<br />
* [[Windows 95/4.00.950 r-5|Windows 95 Build 950 r-5]]<br />
<br />
===RTM===<br />
<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.950 r-6|Windows 95 Build 950 r-6]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.950 r-7|Windows 95 Build 950 r-7]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.950ena|Windows 95 Build 950 Arabic-Enabled]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.950loc|Windows 95 Build 950 Arabic-Localized]]'''''<br />
<br />
===Service Pack 1 / OEM Service Release 1===<br />
<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.951|Windows 95 Build 951]]'''''<br />
<br />
===OEM Service Release 2===<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.1009|Windows 95 Build 1009]]''''' - Beta 1 <br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.1034|Windows 95 Build 1034]]''''' - Beta 2<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.1043|Windows 95 Build 1043]]''''' - Beta 2.1<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.1068|Windows 95 Build 1068]]''''' - Beta 3<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.1078|Windows 95 Build 1078]]''''' - Beta 4 <br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.1089|Windows 95 Build 1089]]''''' - Beta 4.1<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.1094|Windows 95 Build 1094]]''''' - Release Candidate<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.00.1095|Windows 95 Build 1095]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.1111 (RC)|Windows 95 Build 1111 (RC)]]''''' - August 12th, 1996<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.00.1111|Windows 95 Build 1111]]''''' - August 24th, 1996<br />
<br />
===OEM Service Release 2.1===<br />
<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.03.1107|Windows 95 Build 1107]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.03.1113|Windows 95 Build 1113]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.03.1115|Windows 95 Build 1115]]'''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.03.1154|Windows 95 Build 1154]]'''''<br />
* '''[[Windows 95/4.03.1163|Windows 95 Build 1163]]'''<br />
* ''[[Windows 95/4.03.1174|Windows 95 Build 1174]]''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.03.1212|Windows 95 Build 1212 (USB Supplement)]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.03.1214|Windows 95 Build 1214]]'''''<br />
<br />
===OEM Service Release 2.5===<br />
* '''''[[Windows 95/4.03.1216|Windows 95 Build 1216]]'''''<br />
== See also ==<br />
* [[:File:Windows 95 Manual.pdf|Introduction to Windows 95]] user manual<br />
[[Category:Operating Systems]]</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:MCpillager/Archive_2&diff=20960User talk:MCpillager/Archive 22019-05-03T12:30:41Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>This is MCpillager's talk page.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 09:58, 1 May 2019 (BST) <br />
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==Crediting==<br />
It's nice to see that you are crediting the work of the original uploader when reuploading them here. But you should also mention the source (i.e, Wikipedia?) and preferably provide a link to the source page from where you took the image. Thanks. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 10:49, 2 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:{{ping|MCpillager}}, Yeah, please provide links to this stuff to prevent further accusations of plagiarism. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 13:20, 2 May 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{ping|X010}}{{ping|WILSON2bGg}} k, that Neptune picture is from BetaWiki discord.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - 2147483648 bytéß øf dãtâ 05:46, 3 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:::Discord is not considered a source. And as far as I know, Ryuzaki didn’t give you permission to use his image. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 13:30, 3 May 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:WILSON2bGg&diff=20959User talk:WILSON2bGg2019-05-03T12:28:15Z<p>WILSON2bGg: Undo revision 20923 by MCpillager (talk) Backseat moderation, let X010 handle moderation, just edit</p>
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<div>== Mover ==<br />
To help you in moving pages into the correct naming scheme, I've added the mover right to your account. This means that while moving, you should have an additional option to move without redirect which you must select. This saves me time as I don't have to delete the old redirect all the time. Thanks. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:55, 6 April 2019 (BST)<br />
<br />
== about build 2000.3 ==<br />
<br />
I used to have an BetaWiki account called Longhorn5219, but I abandoned it.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:51, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:What are you trying to tell me? I deleted it since you clearly plagiarized the images and we can’t have that crap on the wiki. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 18:01, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{ping|MCpillager}} The image can be restored. Rob, see [https://betawiki.net/wiki/Special:Log?type=upload&user=Longhorn5219&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= this log]. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 13:31, 25 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::Then look at the images, and notice that most of them aren't good hence the little box that says why. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 10:56, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::{{ping|LilShootDawg}} I randomly looked at some of the images, and can't find anything against them. Could you link to some which are bad under your definition? MCpillager, should I restore the images which were deleted earlier? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 11:30, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::{{ping|X010}} yes please.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 12:09, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::{{ping|MCpillager}} {{done}}. However, please mention on the file description page that you previously uploaded it on BetaWiki under a different name; after all, the concern Rob raised was valid (through incorrect in this case). [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 16:48, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::Also, {{ping|MCpillager}}, couldn't you have redone the screenshots so they aren't registered to BetaWiki.Net. That was my other gripe about them. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 21:03, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::{{ping|X010}} https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-Demo.png Isn't cropped. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-MyComputer.png Isn't cropped. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-FirstBoot.png Not highest resolution. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-FirstBoot.png Not highest res. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98_4.10.1666.png Red fucking outline. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-InternetExplorer.jpg jpg https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-Desktop.jpg jpg https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5734-ControlPanel.jpg jpg etc. etc. etc. You get the idea. {{unsigned|LilShootDawg}}<br />
:::::::{{ping|LilShootDawg}} Maybe my standards are low, but ''none'' of them are that bad for you to be cribbing like this (it's hardly unusable, and the red outline can be fixed). Sure, they are nowhere the best images that you could make. But why don't ''you'' improve on them? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:43, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::{{ping|X010}} It would just be easier to make new ones and delete these. He has a legitimate gripe about these; [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-Demo.png 1], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-MyComputer.png 2], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-InternetExplorer.jpg 3], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5734-ControlPanel.jpg 4] and [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-Desktop.jpg 5]. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 21:50, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::{{ping|X010}} Why would I waste time working on trashy screenshots. It's not like the guidelines weren't there. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 22:15, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::::{{Ping|LilShootDawg}} Those JPGS are unleaked screenies. It is normal for first boots to be in low-res, and Windows98 4.10.1666.png was NOT uploaded by me.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 08:25, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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If they were really unleaked {{reply to|MCpillager}}, then I would expect a note to that effect to be included in the image, and some proof that the build existed as per the [[BetaArchive Wiki:Wiki Guidelines|wiki guidelines]]. <br><br />
{{reply to|WILSON2bGg}} Might be missing something, but what are you trying to show with these links? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 11:27, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::::I’m showing you bad screenshots {{ping|X010}}. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 17:30, 28 April 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:MCpillager/Archive_2&diff=20823User talk:MCpillager/Archive 22019-05-02T12:21:15Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>This is MCpillager's talk page.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 09:58, 1 May 2019 (BST) <br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
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! Talk page archives !! Archive date<br />
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| [[User talk:MCpillager/Archive 1|Archive 1]] || 2019-05-01<br />
|}<br />
==Crediting==<br />
It's nice to see that you are crediting the work of the original uploader when reuploading them here. But you should also mention the source (i.e, Wikipedia?) and preferably provide a link to the source page from where you took the image. Thanks. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 10:49, 2 May 2019 (BST)<br />
:{{ping|MCpillager}}, Yeah, please provide links to this stuff to prevent further accusations of plagiarism. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 13:20, 2 May 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:MCpillager/Archive_2&diff=20822User talk:MCpillager/Archive 22019-05-02T12:20:50Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>This is MCpillager's talk page.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 09:58, 1 May 2019 (BST) <br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
! Talk page archives !! Archive date<br />
|-<br />
| [[User talk:MCpillager/Archive 1|Archive 1]] || 2019-05-01<br />
|}<br />
==Crediting==<br />
It's nice to see that you are crediting the work of the original uploader when reuploading them here. But you should also mention the source (i.e, Wikipedia?) and preferably provide a link to the source page from where you took the image. Thanks. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 10:49, 2 May 2019 (BST)<br />
{{ping|MCpillager}}, Yeah, please provide links to this stuff to prevent further accusations of plagiarism. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 13:20, 2 May 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:ToMi1/Archive_1&diff=20552User talk:ToMi1/Archive 12019-04-29T02:46:30Z<p>WILSON2bGg: /* Plagiarism of BetaWiki material */ new section</p>
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<div>Hello, we've noticed you're trying to help us move the pages to the new naming scheme. While any help is appreciated, it seems that you are not using the proper move function and instead just copy paste the content. Sadly this causes the pages to lose their revision history, which is important for proper attribution. Could you please start moving the pages using the move feature, which is hidden away in the "more" menu in the top bar? Thanks --[[User:Mibrab|Mibrab]] ([[User talk:Mibrab|talk]]) 14:15, 5 April 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|Mibrab}} Actually, he can't move pages as his account is not yet a week old (which is necessary to become [[BetaArchive Wiki:Autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed]]). But ToMi, please do not move pages by copy and pasting - I had to delete all of them and revert your changes. Please let me know which pages are to be moved and I can do it for you. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 14:18, 5 April 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|X010}} Thanks very much X010. OK, here is the list:<br />
- Windows 3.0/build 14<br />
- Windows 3.0/build 33<br />
- Windows 3.0/build 55<br />
- Windows 3.0/RC6<br />
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- Windows 3.0/3.00<br />
- Windows 3.0/3.00a<br />
- Windows 3.0/TestDrive<br />
- Windows 3.0/3.0B<br />
- Windows 3.0/3.00a with Multimedia Extensions<br />
- Windows 3.0/3.02<br />
--[[User:ToMi|ToMi]] ([[User talk:ToMi|talk]]) ([[User:ToMi/Sandbox|Sandbox]]) 16:23, 5 April 2019 (BST):<br />
: {{done}} I've moved these, and a bunch of other pages that I noticed when looking at your contribution history. Please let me know if I've missed something or there are more pages to move. Also, note that the format for the 3.x series is [[Windows 3.x/3.00.14]] as an example, not Windows 3.0. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 16:39, 5 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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: {{ping|X010}} [[Windows 3.x/3.00]] doesn't exist. --[[User:ToMi|ToMi]] ([[User talk:ToMi|talk]]) ([[User:ToMi/Sandbox|Sandbox]]) 13:41, 6 April 2019 (BST):<br />
: I deleted that page as it had nothing in it; the content in it was literally "//WIP//". [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 13:59, 6 April 2019 (BST)<br />
== Mover ==<br />
I've given you the [[BetaArchive Wiki:Mover|mover]] userright. This means that you can now move pages without a redirect (which you should select), and delete any redirects you have already created. Please let me know if you have any questions. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 10:11, 20 April 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|X010}} OK, Thank you. --[[User:ToMi|ToMi]] ([[User talk:ToMi|talk]]) ([[User:ToMi/Sandbox|Sandbox]]) 10:11, 20 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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== Plagiarism of BetaWiki material ==<br />
<br />
So I noticed that a lot of the Windows 1.0 Tandy 2000 stuff for the later build was a near direct copy+paste of what BetaWiki has. I’m going to kindly ask you to ‘’’stop plagiarizing’’’. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 03:46, 29 April 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:WILSON2bGg&diff=20545User talk:WILSON2bGg2019-04-28T16:30:49Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>== Mover ==<br />
To help you in moving pages into the correct naming scheme, I've added the mover right to your account. This means that while moving, you should have an additional option to move without redirect which you must select. This saves me time as I don't have to delete the old redirect all the time. Thanks. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:55, 6 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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== about build 2000.3 ==<br />
<br />
I used to have an BetaWiki account called Longhorn5219, but I abandoned it.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 17:51, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:What are you trying to tell me? I deleted it since you clearly plagiarized the images and we can’t have that crap on the wiki. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 18:01, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::{{ping|MCpillager}} The image can be restored. Rob, see [https://betawiki.net/wiki/Special:Log?type=upload&user=Longhorn5219&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= this log]. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 13:31, 25 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::Then look at the images, and notice that most of them aren't good hence the little box that says why. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 10:56, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::{{ping|LilShootDawg}} I randomly looked at some of the images, and can't find anything against them. Could you link to some which are bad under your definition? MCpillager, should I restore the images which were deleted earlier? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 11:30, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::{{ping|X010}} yes please.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 12:09, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::{{ping|MCpillager}} {{done}}. However, please mention on the file description page that you previously uploaded it on BetaWiki under a different name; after all, the concern Rob raised was valid (through incorrect in this case). [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 16:48, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::Also, {{ping|MCpillager}}, couldn't you have redone the screenshots so they aren't registered to BetaWiki.Net. That was my other gripe about them. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 21:03, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::{{ping|X010}} https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-Demo.png Isn't cropped. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-MyComputer.png Isn't cropped. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-FirstBoot.png Not highest resolution. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-FirstBoot.png Not highest res. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98_4.10.1666.png Red fucking outline. https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-InternetExplorer.jpg jpg https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-Desktop.jpg jpg https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5734-ControlPanel.jpg jpg etc. etc. etc. You get the idea. {{unsigned|LilShootDawg}}<br />
:::::::{{ping|LilShootDawg}} Maybe my standards are low, but ''none'' of them are that bad for you to be cribbing like this (it's hardly unusable, and the red outline can be fixed). Sure, they are nowhere the best images that you could make. But why don't ''you'' improve on them? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 17:43, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::{{ping|X010}} It would just be easier to make new ones and delete these. He has a legitimate gripe about these; [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-Demo.png 1], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:Windows98-4.10.1666-MyComputer.png 2], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-InternetExplorer.jpg 3], [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5734-ControlPanel.jpg 4] and [https://betawiki.net/wiki/File:WindowsVista-6.0.5203-Desktop.jpg 5]. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 21:50, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::{{ping|X010}} Why would I waste time working on trashy screenshots. It's not like the guidelines weren't there. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 22:15, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::::{{Ping|LilShootDawg}} Those JPGS are unleaked screenies. It is normal for first boots to be in low-res, and Windows98 4.10.1666.png was NOT uploaded by me.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 08:25, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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If they were really unleaked {{reply to|MCpillager}}, then I would expect a note to that effect to be included in the image, and some proof that the build existed as per the [[BetaArchive Wiki:Wiki Guidelines|wiki guidelines]]. <br><br />
{{reply to|WILSON2bGg}} Might be missing something, but what are you trying to show with these links? [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 11:27, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::::I’m showing you bad screenshots {{ping|X010}}. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 17:30, 28 April 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGghttps://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:MCpillager/Archive_1&diff=20544User talk:MCpillager/Archive 12019-04-28T16:25:00Z<p>WILSON2bGg: </p>
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<div>My talk page. Formerly known as 43.224 on Fandom.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 09:13, 10 April 2019 (BST)<br />
== Moving pages ==<br />
[[Microsoft/Part Numbers]] isn't needed. Please that only for builds; the previous case should just be [[Microsoft Part Numbers]]. Categories are a better way to group non-builds. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 18:00, 18 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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== Plagarism ==<br />
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Please do not plagarise content from BetaWiki, like the templates. (I have left it anyways, as it's not a good place for me). If I see any of your contibs taken from BetaWiki, they will be undone or deleted,. Thank you. --'''[[User:SebOno|SebOno]]''' (''[[User talk:SebOno|Let's have a talk!]]'') ([[User:SebOno/Sandbox|Sandbox]]) elcomeWay otay etaArchiveBay ikiWay! 18:41, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
: {{ping|SebOno}} and {{ping|WILSON2bGg}} There isn't any set rule that prevents taking ideas from other wikis. In fact, I would not prohibit taking templates from other sites (I've done it myself; see [[:Template:Quote]]), but they must be imported instead (so that the contribution history from the other wiki must be preserved). [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 18:53, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
: Please do <u>not</u> delete pages that are not for technical or maintenance reasons - please report them to me instead. Movers should not delete them. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 18:55, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:: {{ping|X010}} This user did a direct copy+paste of BetaWiki templates, with no attempt to modify them for this wiki. If that’s not the definition of plagiarism, I don’t know what is. If we let this behavior continue, we’re going to be the ultimate copy+paste wiki. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 18:58, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::: {{ping|WILSON2bGg}} I just wanted to improve the wiki, and I did NOT copypaste the box template from BetaWiki, I took it from Wikimedia Commons.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 07:41, 23 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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[[User:MCpillager]], I appreciate your intention to help, but we have our own policies - some of them which are already in [[BetaArchive Wiki:Wiki Guidelines]] - and some of them which will be formed when appropriate. In general, please do not take policies from other wikis, and do not copy-paste content directly from other sources (including templates unless imported), as we need to satisfy attribution requirements. If you need anything to be imported, please let me know instead, and I encourage you to discuss your plans with the community. Thanks in advance. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 19:06, 22 April 2019 (BST)<br />
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== Attacks ==<br />
While I understand that you are having some difficulties over at BetaWiki, please note that BetaArchive Wiki is not the place to attack any user, for any reason, anywhere. As such, I've deleted pages like [[User_talk:LilShootDawg]] and [[User:MCpillager/The_Banned]]. Please let me know if you have any questions, thanks. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 10:19, 23 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:Seriously, look at my ban reason on BetaWiki. I'd call that admin abuse at its finest.--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 11:20, 23 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:While I can understand your irritation at being blocked there, please do not bring issues there, here; we are not BetaWiki. This includes posting messages to others' talk pages. I suggest you bring it up with them through their community, not at BetaArchive. I speak from experience, having been [[wikipedia:User_talk:Leaderboard|blocked for nearly five years at Wikipedia]]. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 15:11, 23 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::Why were you blocked on BetaWiki though? --'''[[User:SebOno|SebOno]]''' (''[[User talk:SebOno|Let's have a talk!]]'') ([[User:SebOno/Sandbox|Sandbox]]) elcomeWay otay etaArchiveBay ikiWay! 14:19, 24 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::[[User:LilShootDawg|________]] --[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 14:22, 24 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::{{Ping|SebOno}} He got banned by Overdoze for freaking out over me saying "fuck". Really childish. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 21:06, 24 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::He's probably gonna do it here now since I typed it again lol. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 21:08, 24 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::''(Unwilling to cooperate with the rest of the community, taking part in talk page drama, ban evasion, taking BetaWiki matters to BA.)'' --[[User:AlphaBeta|AlphaBeta]] ([[User talk:AlphaBeta|talk]]) 11:10, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::Don't think I don't read, I do check BW everyday.<br />
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::::And do you have any proof that I take a BW matters to BA forums? I never spammed BA with "betawiki is blocking people for not swearing!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!1!!!!!!1!"--[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 12:08, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::You bumped a nearly six year old BetaArchive thread to vent, then claimed the BW staff was corrupt in said thread. Don't come with this "give me proof" stuff now that that thread was rightfully moved. --[[User:Daniël Oosterhuis|Daniël Oosterhuis]] ([[User talk:Daniël Oosterhuis|talk]]) 17:27, 26 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::: {{ping|Daniël Oosterhuis}} {{ping|LilShootDawg}} LISTEN, THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION BUT A FLAME WAR!<br>WE DON'T SUPPORT SOME COMMERCIAL WIKI.<br>THIS TOPIC IS LOCKED! --[[User:MCpillager|MCpillager]] - remember, a build list is just a lot of numbers. 07:26, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::: You cannot 'lock' any discussion here. [[User:X010|X010]] ([[User talk:X010|talk]]) 10:13, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::Jesus. This dude really doesn't know how wiki's work. My lord. Well, good luck handling him. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 16:01, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::Yeah, the fact that you find bringing outside to BetaArchive and the wiki is not how you deal with getting blocked or how you go about getting said block removed. Such immaturity doesn't get you anywhere. And the BA thread was most likely locked because it was getting out of hand and it was just a bunch of bickering. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 21:58, 27 April 2019 (BST)<br />
::::::::{{ping|AlphaBeta}} What do you exactly mean by that? Also, it is normal for you to check the wiki you are sysopping every day, so don't say that. --'''[[User:SebOno|SebOno]]''' ([[User talk:SebOno|talk]] | [[User:SebOno/Sandbox|sandbox]]) elcomeWay otay etaArchiveBay ikiWay! 16:40, 28 April 2019 (BST)<br />
:::::::::{{ping|SebOno}} That is the reason for MCpillager’s block on BetaWiki. [[User:WILSON2bGg|WILSON2bGg]] ([[User talk:WILSON2bGg|talk]]) 17:25, 28 April 2019 (BST)</div>WILSON2bGg