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[Offer] IBM Multimedia for Windows 3.0

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This has been located as an ISO file, along with two others. The other two represent selectware samples. (Think of the \samples on the Win9x cdroms.)

The main ISO contains an setup for WinMME 3.0, along with Windows 3.1, and OS/2 2.0. Hyperguide is in the disk.

There is a backup file on the disk. It's an OS/2 backup, so i unpacked it and repacked it with PKZIP 2.5. It contains PC-DOS 5.02, MWINDOWS (win 3.0 + win 3.1 + winmme in that order), and OS/2 (Win-OS/2 MME!).

PC-DOS 5.02 does not have ibmbio or ibmdos, but that's how the archive it. If you want to run that, you will have to use some from a different source.

No original media, just a reprocessed ISO into zip file.

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OS/2 2.0 from this ISO has intereste build number (6.454 (92/09/21)).
What this build?
Another Reiker release, special IBM version, test release or other?
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It looks more like a PCC release to me. This means it's cobbled together by the computer-making division (PCC), out of the 'latest internal build'. This is what makes IBM more interesting than most vendors.

M57 stands for Model 57. We had 55's at work.

OS/2 2.00.1 is a preload release, never issued as retail. The cd contains the necessary setup, and it's just a matter of fabbing the diskettes.

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Is this an offer? Or a request? Please use the proper tag when posting in this forum.
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Re: IBM Multimedia for Windows 3.0

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mrpijey wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:39 pm
Is this an offer? Or a request? Please use the proper tag when posting in this forum.
It's an offer.
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Re: IBM Multimedia for Windows 3.0

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If @FantaShokata says this is an offer, I would say we'd be glad to take a look on it. I hope all floppies would be included to CD.

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There are no floppy images at the source. But it ought not be hard to fab up an OS/2 set from the supplied disk_0 and disk_1 directories, and some modifications. PC-DOS needs the root directory files, these are not on the set, but most files are identical to a standard 5.02 layout.

Interesting is the includion of WinMME that knows about Win31. It's more recent than the various tandy versions doing the rounds.

http://www.os2fan2.com/files/ibm-m57.rar
http://www.os2fan2.com/files/ibm-m57.md5

The main alteration is that I add a readme.txt and unpack the OS/2 backup files into the zip file. These are in the rar file.

The md5 is prepared by TCC command under fcw: hash /md5 ! > ibm_m57.md5

This is the readme

Code: Select all

IBM-UCD-101.ISO

This is the IBM Ultimedia CD v 1.01, the JPG and ISO downloaded from archive.org.

  DRIVERS  is a few machine-specific drivers.
  HYPER    is the Windows help system as hypertext
  MMPM2    is OS/2 MultiMedia/PM (no cd samples)
  OS2SE20  is a disk layout for OS/2 for the 'add-remove features'
  WINMME   is a Windows 3.0 addon to add Multimedia.
  WINSETUP is unmodified Win310 setup files.

The backup.001 and control.001 are backup files prepared with OS/2 backup.
You can use OS/2 restore to restore these. I used the version on AcraOS 5.06

IBM-UCD-101.JPG

Photo of said cdrom.

IBM-M57.ZIP

Said backup restored, and zipped with PKZIPW 2.50. Hidden and system files
are also copied.

  CDROM       device drivers for DOS
  DEVSUP      unknown.
  DOS         pcdos 5.02.  IBMBIO and IBMDOS are not on the tape.
  DOSDMQS     monitor info for DOS
  GUIDE       OS/2 app for browsing another CD
  IAUTHOR     Demo Multimedia
  MMOS2       OS/2 Multimedia subsystem
  MWINDOWS    IBM MME3,0 -> Win310 -> WINMME winows
  NAUTILUS    Unknows - apparently emag client
  NOWHERE     OS/2 directory for creating objects = NO WHERE or NOW HERE
  OS!2_2.0_D  OS/2 2.0 Desktop - short name
  OS2         OS/2 2.00.1 Preload.
  PSFONTS     Adobe Fonts
  SPOOL       OS/2 Print spool
  VIEWER      Win30 MME viewer.  Based on Winhelp
  WAVE        Demo Wave Editor
  XGA$DMQS    OS/2 monitor files

  autoexec    OS2\MDOS version
  config.sys  OS2 version
  EZLOD**.155 Used to copy files to hard drive image.
  MOUSE.COM   Win31 vers of 8.20
  OS2*        OS/2 boot files
  README      is for OS/2
  WINA20.386  Win30 handler for A20 (HMA)
  WP ROOT. SF OS/2 Extended attributes for FAT.

A check of the EZLODDOS.155 shows no files in the root directory, although the
OS2 and WIN sets include such thngs.  So for DOS 5.02, you may need to recover
the boot files from a different version.

No diskettes were supplied.  DRIVERS\XGAOPT involves making a floppy disk to
install it.  You format the disk under PC-DOS and copy the files across to it.
The DOS files are 5.00, not 5.02.

OS/2 2.00.1 is a pre-load system, which means your computer comes with it and
a number of utility diskettes.  It is not installed from there, and there are
a extra files in C:\OS2 that are not in the CDROM.  WinMME is installed into
the WinOS2.

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Re: [Offer] IBM Multimedia for Windows 3.0

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This MME version is Update Floppy release.
SETUP.INF report about 3 floppy disk.

For reference. We also has two other Update Floppy releases: 0.90.59 Beta and NEC Japanese.

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Re: [Offer] IBM Multimedia for Windows 3.0

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os2fan2 wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:22 am

This is the IBM Ultimedia CD v 1.01, the JPG and ISO downloaded from archive.org.
Sorry, I've thought you have an IBM PS/2 Ultimedia with all software yourself. And yes, reply on lack of floppies and Nautilus (even though photos of CD are included) is mine.
And thanks for the tip on OS/2 recovery command - I've failed with one on PC-DOS.

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Well if it gets uploaded and we think it's worth saving we can save it as a reference release. But I need someone to check it properly and upload it.
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Re: [Offer] IBM Multimedia for Windows 3.0

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mrpijey wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:18 pm
Well if it gets uploaded and we think it's worth saving we can save it as a reference release. But I need someone to check it properly and upload it.
I don't think we would contact @lofuses (the one who uploaded these CDs). If he visited Archive.org regularly, he would upload Nautilus and at least give a note on floppies. However @pleonard on Vogons.org also has an PS/2 Ultimedia with software set, but his model is M57, so bundled set might be an earlier version (like one depicted here).

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ArtiomWin wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:52 pm
However @pleonard on Vogons.org also has an PS/2 Ultimedia with software set, but his model is M57, so bundled set might be an earlier version (like one depicted here).
You mean, that he CD has another versions MME 3.0 and OS/2 2.0?

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Re: [Offer] IBM Multimedia for Windows 3.0

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German wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:41 am
You mean, that he CD has another versions MME 3.0 and OS/2 2.0?
I said he might have, but, yes, System CD 1.0 (10G5898) has OS/2 2.0 LA and Windows 3.0 MME (not 3.1). All photos and screenshots are by the link above.

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Looking at the pictures in the link above, I suspect that the cdrom is vers 1.0 of what I put up as 1.1.

The inside of the slick mentions PC-DOS 5.00, but the backup clearly has 5.02. Another thing is that if OS/2 2.0 was released ahead of Windows 3.1, then this would have WinMME 3.0 on it.

The diskette to load OS/2 is a specially fabbed disk for a microchannel machine, but it ought be possible to build one for modern hardware using this OS. I had supposed a two-disk layout, but one-disk layout for this age suffices. There should be enough data in \os2\install to fab a disk. I saw something that looked like an install config.sys there.

Regards archive.org files, there are more cdroms than the three I downloaded. One is a bin/cue affair, which is used by multimedia apps, so I imagine there are audio tracks on it too. There is a nautilus install there, but it requires connections to long-extinct servers.

I suspect that the OS/2 is still the preload 2.00.1, of which there is one release. The MME files on the one i loaded are 3.0 files, but it's aware of 3.10, if you read through MMSETUP.INF. These are not the MME 3.1 on MMPACK, which are the same function, but different.

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Re: [Offer] IBM Multimedia for Windows 3.0

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ArtiomWin wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:52 pm
mrpijey wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:18 pm
Well if it gets uploaded and we think it's worth saving we can save it as a reference release. But I need someone to check it properly and upload it.
I don't think we would contact @lofuses (the one who uploaded these CDs). If he visited Archive.org regularly, he would upload Nautilus and at least give a note on floppies. However @pleonard on Vogons.org also has an PS/2 Ultimedia with software set, but his model is M57, so bundled set might be an earlier version (like one depicted here).
I am sorry, I must be tired... but how is this an offer then if it can't be offered and provided? If it's offered and it's worth preserving then we should be able to get the files so we can archive them. Otherwise it's not an offer....?

So, does someone here have these files and are offering them or not? os2fan2 made the initial post, so he must be able to answer this then.
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Re: [Offer] IBM Multimedia for Windows 3.0

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os2fan2 does not have the original files.

Instead, she recognised that this is worth preserving since this is the only way that OS/2 v 2.00.1 is available, and includes a set of three disks that turn Windows 3.x into WinMME with 3.0 extensions.

I've had a look at the M57 pictures, and it should be possible to fab a set of disks that match some of those shown in the pictures. The OS/2 v 2.00.1 single-boot disk might be constructable from uding an early version of BootOS2 (which is how I figured it was created), and looking in the install directory for guidance.

It has been provided in links I gave,

http://www.os2fan2.com/files/ibm-m57.rar
http://www.os2fan2.com/files/ibm-m57.md5

which is as far as I have got dismantling it to create a working set.

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Why do you speak about yourself in third person? =)

Thanks for the links, I'll download them and take a look at it.
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Correct your third person.

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Re: [Offer] IBM Multimedia for Windows 3.0

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I've written to @pleonard. Now I doubt we'll get feedback, but still looking for answer, although last time I wrote him on Ultimedia software was more than a year ago.

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Re: [Offer] IBM Multimedia for Windows 3.0

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Hello again. Sorry for "necroposting", but I've finally obtained disks from another user of Vogons. Also I was provided some information on versions of PS/2 Ultimedia sets:
1. v1.0 comes up with OS/2 2.0 LA, PC-DOS 5.0, Windows 3.0 MME
2. v1.00.1 (the one I've provided) - OS/2 2.0 GA, PC-DOS 5.0, Windows 3.0 MME
3. v1.1 (the one is on Archive.org) - OS/2 2.00.1 with MMPM/2 1.0, PC-DOS, Windows 3.1

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