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 PostPost subject: Windows 10 threshold start menu on Windows 10 RTM        Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 3:39 pm 
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Hi I'm wondering if it's possible to port the start menu from server 2016 build 10074 to windows 10 rtm, I've been trying to port the start menu from build 9785 to windows 8.1 but haven't had any luck, I think it would be easier to bring back the old start menu to windows 10 RTM rather than adding a feature that hasn't existed before into windows 8.1.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 10 threshold start menu on Windows 10 RTM        Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 4:34 pm 
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Try replacing the XAML menu in 10240 with the server 10074 one and see what happens.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 10 threshold start menu on Windows 10 RTM        Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 6:37 pm 
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Meow wrote:
Try replacing the XAML menu in 10240 with the server 10074 one and see what happens.

...and you'd do that how exactly?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 10 threshold start menu on Windows 10 RTM        Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 8:29 pm 
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...and you'd do that how exactly?

I don’t know, maybe replacing the Resources.pri file with 10074’s in ShellExperienceHost’s folder?

10074 and 10240 aren’t all that different interface-wise.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 10 threshold start menu on Windows 10 RTM        Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 11:56 am 
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Meow wrote:
AlphaBeta wrote:
...and you'd do that how exactly?

I don’t know, maybe replacing the Resources.pri file with 10074’s in ShellExperienceHost’s folder?

10074 and 10240 aren’t all that different interface-wise.

i've looked in C:\Windows\SystemApps folder in windows server 2016 build 10074 but only see Spartan_cw5n1h2txyewy are you talking about another ShellExperienceHost’s folder? maybe the menu is linked to explorer.exe if so ive removed the digital signature from server 10074's explorer.exe and ran it on 10240 but i get this error
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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 10 threshold start menu on Windows 10 RTM        Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 4:47 pm 
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Try using the Windows 10 10074 and not the server one.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 10 threshold start menu on Windows 10 RTM        Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 5:10 pm 
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Meow wrote:
Try using the Windows 10 10074 and not the server one.

Client build 10074 doesn't have the old start menu.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 10 threshold start menu on Windows 10 RTM        Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 6:11 pm 
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Jake harrison wrote:
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Try using the Windows 10 10074 and not the server one.

Client build 10074 doesn't have the old start menu.

Oh, you wanted the 9841 menu? Now that is unfortunately impossible unless you have access to the windows source code or you want to replace a truck load of dlls and stuff and make 10240 into a broken mix between server 2016 10074 and Windows 10 RTM. You’d be better off using server 2016 10074.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 10 threshold start menu on Windows 10 RTM        Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 12:19 am 
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I had seen 8.1 Update 1 start screen running on Windows 10 RTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT4SrOqutxg

Maybe it can be brought with this method.
If the codes are completely removed in DLLs, then just not work

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 10 threshold start menu on Windows 10 RTM        Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 12:57 am 
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No. The reason the start screen is enableable is because MS left the code for the Start Screen in RTM. It just needed tweaking to enable it. Similar to 8RTM, which still had enough code that 7's explorer could be brought in.

In the case of 8.1, the code for the start menu did not exist yet.

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