POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype? (FAKE)
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OdysseyNeptune
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POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype? (FAKE)
I have come across a Sonic 2 Prototype, being a fan of this game i searched a lot about prototypes, and have found one that doesn't seem to be the Simon Wai Prototype, nor the later Beta 4.
Here are some screenshots of its level select.
On the left we have the Simon Wai Prototype, Beta 4 on the middle, and this prototype on the right, for comparison
The reason of why this prototype's screenshot is bigger is due to using an emulator, while the other 2 were screenshots from the Internet (i do have the ROMs for those other prototypes, but was lazy)
As you can see, both Beta 4 and the Simon Wai Prototype mislabelled Mystic Cave as Dust Hill, which is an entry in this prototype. Also note that Special Stage is simply Special here. In this prototype, there seems to be no Sky Chase nor Wing Fortress (Sky Fortress in Beta 4) which means that is earlier than Beta 4, but Mystic Cave being correctly labelled here is weird. "Dust Hill" seems to send to Genocide City from the Simon Wai Prototype, as both are empty slots with Chemical Plant's music. Also, Death Egg is still empty...
What do you guys think? I am going to upload the ROM if asked to.
Here are some screenshots of its level select.
On the left we have the Simon Wai Prototype, Beta 4 on the middle, and this prototype on the right, for comparison
The reason of why this prototype's screenshot is bigger is due to using an emulator, while the other 2 were screenshots from the Internet (i do have the ROMs for those other prototypes, but was lazy)
As you can see, both Beta 4 and the Simon Wai Prototype mislabelled Mystic Cave as Dust Hill, which is an entry in this prototype. Also note that Special Stage is simply Special here. In this prototype, there seems to be no Sky Chase nor Wing Fortress (Sky Fortress in Beta 4) which means that is earlier than Beta 4, but Mystic Cave being correctly labelled here is weird. "Dust Hill" seems to send to Genocide City from the Simon Wai Prototype, as both are empty slots with Chemical Plant's music. Also, Death Egg is still empty...
What do you guys think? I am going to upload the ROM if asked to.
Last edited by OdysseyNeptune on Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:56 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
Put it up for download and let the users take a look at it, if it's good we'll add it to the FTP. Thanks!
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OdysseyNeptune
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
Where should i upload it?
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
You sure this isn't some sort of hack? There are LOTS of Sonic 2 Beta/Alpha/Prototype hacks around the web, a few of which have had attempts to pass off as real prototypes.
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OdysseyNeptune
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
Found it on a link that now appears to be dead...
I am sure it isn't, it might be a build directly after the Simon Wai Prototype. I would call this Alpha 5 (with Simon Wai being Alpha 4 and Nick Arcade being Alpha 3, since there must be more prototypes)
I am sure it isn't, it might be a build directly after the Simon Wai Prototype. I would call this Alpha 5 (with Simon Wai being Alpha 4 and Nick Arcade being Alpha 3, since there must be more prototypes)
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
I've played through it, and here are some differences:
Death egg music being played by getting 100 rings no longer occurs
Hidden Palace intro is quite different, most of the level is the same
Chemical Plant is much closer to Beta 4 than Simon Wai
Hill Top is much closer to Beta 4 than Simon Wai
Power sneaker sprite on monitors is inversed (not sure if this happens on Simon Wai too)
Green orb in Hill Top seesaws is now the flashing yellow and red thing
You should submit this ROM to Sonic Retro to see if they can find out if it's legit or a fake.
Death egg music being played by getting 100 rings no longer occurs
Hidden Palace intro is quite different, most of the level is the same
Chemical Plant is much closer to Beta 4 than Simon Wai
Hill Top is much closer to Beta 4 than Simon Wai
Power sneaker sprite on monitors is inversed (not sure if this happens on Simon Wai too)
Green orb in Hill Top seesaws is now the flashing yellow and red thing
You should submit this ROM to Sonic Retro to see if they can find out if it's legit or a fake.
#8032forbrian came true
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
Yea that's sus.OdysseyNeptune wrote:Found it on a link that now appears to be dead...
I am sure it isn't, it might be a build directly after the Simon Wai Prototype. I would call this Alpha 5 (with Simon Wai being Alpha 4 and Nick Arcade being Alpha 3, since there must be more prototypes)
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OdysseyNeptune
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
sus? What does that mean? Suspicious?
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Suspicious.OdysseyNeptune wrote:sus? What does that mean? Suspicious?
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
Hmm, but is there a way to verify if it is legitimate? Gameplay is almost the same as in the Simon Wai Prototype, however, Hidden Palace Act 2 has a correct spawnpoint and some layout.
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
It can be legitimate, but, if i upload it to the FTP, and it turns out it's fake, something bad happens? Not gonna upload for now cuz it might be risky
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OdysseyNeptune
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
WOW, did not know about so much differences... It may be legitimatebeta.a.brian wrote:I've played through it, and here are some differences:
Death egg music being played by getting 100 rings no longer occurs
Hidden Palace intro is quite different, most of the level is the same
Chemical Plant is much closer to Beta 4 than Simon Wai
Hill Top is much closer to Beta 4 than Simon Wai
Power sneaker sprite on monitors is inversed (not sure if this happens on Simon Wai too)
Green orb in Hill Top seesaws is now the flashing yellow and red thing
You should submit this ROM to Sonic Retro to see if they can find out if it's legit or a fake.
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
That means nothing. You can make a fake and have MORE differences.OdysseyNeptune wrote:WOW, did not know about so much differences... It may be legitimatebeta.a.brian wrote:I've played through it, and here are some differences:
Death egg music being played by getting 100 rings no longer occurs
Hidden Palace intro is quite different, most of the level is the same
Chemical Plant is much closer to Beta 4 than Simon Wai
Hill Top is much closer to Beta 4 than Simon Wai
Power sneaker sprite on monitors is inversed (not sure if this happens on Simon Wai too)
Green orb in Hill Top seesaws is now the flashing yellow and red thing
You should submit this ROM to Sonic Retro to see if they can find out if it's legit or a fake.
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
Let's disassemble it and see whether is it real or not. This way you (The OP) can be sure that it's safe to upload it to the FTP
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OdysseyNeptune
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
Yes, but i do not know how
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That would prove nothing.SistemaRayoXP wrote:Let's disassemble it and see whether is it real or not. This way you (The OP) can be sure that it's safe to upload it to the FTP
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OdysseyNeptune
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
Why would that prove nothing?LilShootDawg wrote:That would prove nothing.SistemaRayoXP wrote:Let's disassemble it and see whether is it real or not. This way you (The OP) can be sure that it's safe to upload it to the FTP
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
There aren't a lot of builds for Sonic 2 that we have. And there are no logs or anything. You check for inconsistencies in the game code. You can't just open it in 7zip. You have to know and understand assembly. You have to know and understand how the code works for the Wai and Beta 4 builds. You have to look at this ROMs code and see if there is something that isn't in Wai or Beta 4.OdysseyNeptune wrote:Why would that prove nothing?LilShootDawg wrote:That would prove nothing.SistemaRayoXP wrote:Let's disassemble it and see whether is it real or not. This way you (The OP) can be sure that it's safe to upload it to the FTP
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OdysseyNeptune
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
I do not know assembly
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OdysseyNeptune
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Re: POSSIBLE LEAK Sonic 2 Prototype?
Well, fake. Good thing i didn't upload to the FTP. Guess i'll keep searching.