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 PostPost subject: Will computers capable of WinFS in the near future?        Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:58 am 
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Technology has improve a lot. Computers are faster and effecient than that in the Windows XP days. With the dawn of quantum computing and other technology advancements. Is WinFS possible in the near future?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will computers capable of WinFS in the near future?        Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:36 am 
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Do you even know what WinFS is? And what does it have to do with anything related to quantum computing and the speed of computers?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will computers capable of WinFS in the near future?        Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:43 am 
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Sorry if I'm wrong, isn't WinFS a way to organize files by connecting files into different attributes for easy file access?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will computers capable of WinFS in the near future?        Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:19 am 
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WinFS is a file system based on a relational database like SQL etc does it. It was ultimately cancelled and some parts of it ended up in MS SQL Server.

So to answer your question: A relational database file system would be possible today, or 20 years ago. It's not related to speed but implementation. And apparently Microsoft didn't think it was useful so they cancelled it and scavenged it for use in SQL Server instead.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will computers capable of WinFS in the near future?        Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:35 pm 
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Chattercube wrote:
Technology has improve a lot. Computers are faster and effecient than that in the Windows XP days. With the dawn of quantum computing and other technology advancements. Is WinFS possible in the near future?

You write as though "WinFS" were so futuristic that it required quantum computing, etc. It can only strengthen the false ideas that people have about the feature.

It reminds me of those who write that "Longhorn" was so "forward thinking" that it required a 4-6 GHz processor which, although based on an estimate from Microsoft about then-future 2006 hardware capabilities, is not at all the idea that the company intended to convey.
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WinFS is a file system based on a relational database like SQL etc does it. It was ultimately cancelled and some parts of it ended up in MS SQL Server.

So to answer your question: A relational database file system would be possible today, or 20 years ago. It's not related to speed but implementation. And apparently Microsoft didn't think it was useful so they cancelled it and scavenged it for use in SQL Server instead.

Not a file system—even if Microsoft referred to it as such. There are of course file system capabilities, but it a) relied on NTFS and (initially) Transactional NTFS, and b) strengthening this point further, users could not, for instance, format a drive with "WinFS."

What bothers me is that no one ever discusses the advertised capabilities of "WinFS" that actually are in Windows Vista. There were more in "post-reset" Beta than in RTM, unfortunately.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will computers capable of WinFS in the near future?        Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:40 pm 
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A good comment regarding why WinFS was such a failure:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/bill-gate ... ret-winfs/

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