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 PostPost subject: [OFFER] Some DOS'es, Janus (the real one), and Windowses...        Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:56 pm 
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Basically I just found some interesting stuff we did not have before.

1. MS-DOS 6.00 Italian Upgrade, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos600_ita_144upg.rar ;
2. MS-DOS 5.00 and Windows 3.1 Combined Setup English: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/win31_dos5_comb_setup.rar - yes, this is the actual Janus;
3. Windows for Workgroups 3.1 Dutch, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/wfw31_nld_144oem.rar ;
4. Windows 3.0 MME German Tandy OEM: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/win300mme_ger_cdoem_tandy.rar - credit goes to tarlabnor;
5. Windows 3.0 MME English non-Tandy OEM: https://mega.nz/#!L8YC2CSD!lnVWWA33GnMj ... 5VjPXe3stE - credit goes to Overdoze;
6. MS-DOS 6.00 Portuguese (Brazil) OEMBase (that is, Base Edition), 5.25" 1.2 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos600_ptb_12bas.rar ;
7. MS-DOS 6.00 Portuguese (Brazil) Retail, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos600_ptb_144oem.rar ;
8. MS-DOS 5.00a Dutch Retail, 3.5" 720 kB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos500a_nld_720oem.rar .

Janus is interesting. When you do a clean install, it looks like normal MS-DOS 5.00 Setup followed by Windows 3.1 Setup, except that MS-DOS Setup looks closer to 6.00 than 5.00, I suspect the color scheme was changed for Janus so it matches that of Windows 3.1 Setup, and then MS-DOS 6.00 inherited that. If you do an upgrade, however, you get to see Windows GUI dialogs for DOS stuff.

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 PostPost subject: Re: [OFFER] Some DOS'es, Janus (the real one), and Windowses        Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:02 am 
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Wow, where did you find these? :D

Absolutely no idea whatsoever. But, Thanks Battler! No betas, but some cool stuff in there! I did see a Windows 3.0 MME german on some site some time ago, but I was not sure if it was real. Perhaps it was ;) As for Janus I'll check later

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Windows 3.0 MME German Tandy OEM: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/win300mmem_ge ... _tandy.rar - credit goes to tarlabnor;

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- oscareczek: For some reason, the Janus floppies (which I recreated from a folder dump) ended up having incorrect disk labels, going to fix that later.

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Interesting to know that an official MS-DOS + Windows installer combo (Janus) exists. I thought that combo installs like that can only be achieved through unofficial methods. This two-birds-with-one-stone installer might be useful for those with IBM PCs/PC compatibles in need of a better way to re-install. Good luck getting it to work.

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I fixed the floppy images, redownload them from the same link as before.

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Interesting to know that an official MS-DOS + Windows installer combo (Janus) exists.

According to the Anti-Trust documents, it had a successor, too, called Jastro (a portmanteau of Janus and MS-DOS 6.00's codename, Astro), which installed MS-DOS 6.00 and Windows 3.1 together. This was apparently also used in early Chicago builds before 58s replaced it with the new Chicago Setup.

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More stuff today:

1. MS-DOS 5.00 Japanese (AX) 1992, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos500ax1992_jpn_144oem.rar ;
2. MS-DOS 5.00 Japanese (AX) 1993, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos500ax1993_jpn_144oem.rar ;
3. Windows for Workgroups 3.1 Finnish, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/wfw31_fin_144oem.rar ;
4. Windows 3.0a Norwegian, 3.5" 720 kB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/win300a_nor_720oem.rar ;
5. Windows 3.0a Portuguese (Brazil) (non-OEM), 5.25" 1.2 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/win300a_ptb_12oem.rar ;
6. MS-DOS 6.20 Dutch Upgrade, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos620_nld_144upg.rar ;
7. MS-DOS 5.00a Portuguese (Brazil) Retail, 3.5" 720 kB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos500a_ptb_720oem.rar ;
8. MS-DOS 5.00a Italian (non-OEM), 5.25" 360 kB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos500a_ita_360oem.rar .

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This is from old-dos.ru but were missing from the BA FTP:
Windows 3.00 (non-a) Danish, 3.5" 720 kB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/win300_dan_720oem.rar .

Also I found this somewhere on the Internet some time ago:
Windows 3.1 French Upgrade, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/win31_fra_144upg.rar .

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The 'janus' set reminds me more of this than the janus beta. It's more akin to what one might release with a box.

I installed PC-DOS 5.02, a base version, and then installed this over the top. It runs a treat. It's pretty much msdos 5.00 and windows 3.1, but the link above is a former MSFT knowledge-base thingie, with pretty mich the same layout.


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- os2fan2: Thank you for that link, I might be able to reconstruct the 1.44 MB floppy images of Janus now.

Also, Janus was never the codename of Windows 3.1, that was probably someone's misunderstanding. According the Anti-Trust documents, Janus was always this - the combined MS-DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1 Setup. It makes sense too, since Janus was the Roman two-headed god.

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And more again tonight:

1. MS-DOS 6.00 German OEMBase (that is, Base Edition), 5.25" 1.2 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos600_ger_12bas.rar ;
2. MS-DOS 6.00 French OEMBase (that is, Base Edition), 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos600_fra_144bas.rar ;
3. MS-DOS 6.00 Spanish OEMBase (that is, Base Edition), 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos600_spa_144bas.rar ;
4. Microsoft OS/2 1.30 Swedish (Standard), 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msos213_swe_144oem.rar ;
5. Microsoft OS/2 1.30 German (Server), 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msos213s_ger_144oem.rar ;
6. Windows 2.10 Swedish (286), 3.5" 720 kB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/win21286_swe_720oem.rar ;
7. Windows 3.1 English for Central and Eastern Europe (1993), 5.25" 1.2 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/win31_cee1993_12oem.rar ;
8. Windows for Workgroups 3.11 English for Central and Eastern Europe (1993), 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/wfw311_cee1993_144oem.rar (the one already on the FTP is dated 1994).

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Here are the delsame results on janus vs dos 5.00a and windows 3.10

Delsame removes duplicates by size and crc. So it picks up renamed files. It's the first flush for finding interesting things.

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Files in win3.1 changed etc to janus

APPS.INF       CONTROL.INF    MAIN.CPL       NETWORKS.WRI   PRINTERS.WRI
PSCRIPT.DRV    README.WRI     SETUP.EXE      SETUP.HLP      SETUP.INF
SETUP.TXT      SHELL.DLL      SYSINI.WRI     UNIDRV.DLL     WININI.WRI

Files in msdos 5.0 changed etc to janus

APPNOTES.TXT   AUTOEXEC.BAC   AUTOEXEC.BAT   EGA.SYS        EMM386.EXE
EXPAND.EXE     HIMEM.SYS      PACKING.LST    RAMDRIVE.SYS   README.1ST
README.TXT     SETUP.EXE      SETUP.INI      SMARTDRV.SYS

Files in janus not in 5.0/3.1

APPNOTES.TXT   APPS.INF       AUTOEXEC.BAT   CONTROL.INF    DELOLDOS.EXE
DISK7          DISK8          DISK9          DMDRVR.BIN     DOSSETUP.EXE
DOSSETUP.HLP   DOSSETUP.INI   HDBKUP.EXE     HDRSTORE.EXE   MAIN.CPL
NET.EXE        NETBEUI.DOS    NETWKSTA.1XE   NETWKSTA.2XE   NETWORKS.TXT
NETWORKS.WRI   NUSETUP.EXE    PACKING.LST    PRINTERS.WRI   PSCRIPT.DRV
README.1ST     README.TXT     README.WRI     REDIR.1XE      REDIR.2XE
SETNAME.EXE    SETUP.EXE      SETUP.HLP      SETUP.INF      SETUP.TXT
SHELL.DLL      SSTOR.SYS      SYSINI.WRI     UNIDRV.DLL     UNINSTAL.EXE
WININI.WRI     WINSETUP.EXE   XBIOS.OVL


We see here the setup routines, the readme files, JANUS has networking files and disk backup/restore.

SETUP.INF is identical to most parts, except disk layout, except janus refers to [winos2] at line 1534.

The DOS files are compressed with the full name embedded, so expand -r works. This is different to the Windows files.

The reference to winos2 in the janus setup, suggests that WW0981 has been applied to windows 3.1 base install. The files in janus are different to ww0981, though.


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More stuff again:

1. Windows 3.0 (non-a) German, 5.25" 1.2 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/win300_ger_12oem.rar ;
2. Windows 3.0a Swedish, 5.25" 360 kB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/win300a_swe_360oem.rar ;
3. Windows for Workgroups 3.1 Danish (non-upgrade), 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/wfw31_dan_144oem.rar ;
4. Microsoft OS/2 1.30 German (Standard), 5.25" 1.2 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msos213_ger_12oem.rar ;
5. Microsoft OS/2 1.30 French (Standard), 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msos213_fra_144oem.rar ;
6. MS-DOS 5.00 French Upgrade, 5.25" 360 kB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos500_fra_360upg.rar ;
7. MS-DOS 5.00 Spanish Upgrade, 3.5" 720 kB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos500_spa_720upg.rar ;
8. MS-DOS 6.00 Portuguese (Brazil) Upgrade, 3.5" 720 kB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos600_ptb_720upg.rar ;
9. MS-DOS 6.00 Spanish Upgrade, 5.25" 1.2 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos600_spa_12upg.rar ;
10. MS-DOS 6.20 Swedish Upgrade, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos620_swe_144upg.rar .

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Another batch:

1. MS-DOS 5.00 German non-OEM, 3.5" 720 kB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos500_ger_720oem.rar (dated 1991-05-09, the earliest on the FTP is dated 1991-05-15);
2. MS-DOS 5.00 Portuguese (Brazil) Upgrade, 3.5" 360 kB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos500_ptb_360oem.rar ;
3. MS-DOS 5.00a Swedish non-OEM, 5.25" 1.2 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos500a_swe_12oem.rar (dated 1992-04-06, so 3 days earlier before the 3.5" version on the FTP);
4. MS-DOS 6.00 Danish non-OEM, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos600_dan_144oem.rar ;
5. MS-DOS 6.00 Norwegian non-OEM, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos600_nor_144oem.rar ;
6. MS-DOS 6.00 Russian non-OEM, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos600_rus_144oem.rar ;
7. MS-DOS 6.20 Danish non-OEM, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos620_dan_144oem.rar ;
8. MS-DOS 6.20 Norwegian non-OEM, 3.5" 1.44 MB: http://citadel.rol.im/abw/msdos620_nor_144oem.rar .

Edit: Note that the Danish, Norwegian, and Russian MS-DOS 6.x'es are in fact in English but they actually differ from the (American) English release, and the Russian 6.00, much like the Russian 6.22 that we already have, has a Russian README.TXT.

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