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 PostPost subject: [UPLOADED] Windows 3.02 Japanese IBM OEM for PC and PS/55        Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:13 pm 
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This has made it to Vetsuware recently, on proper floppy images even. It is technically for the PS/55 like the Japanese 3.10.153 IBM OEM, but just like that one, it also works perfectly on regular PC compatibles under DOS/V. The PS/55 is after all a PC compatible with hardware Japanese support, though implemented a bit differently from the other Japanese PC compatible architecture (the AX).

Edit: Removed the RAR and modified the thumbnails so they link to the full-sized screenshots (on the BetaArchive Image Uploader) instead.
Here are several screenshots, from Setup to the installed OS, taken with PCem-Unofficial and its integrated screenshot-taking feature, Windows 3.02 installed on top of IBM DOS J4.05/V that is already on the FTP:
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Download link: http://citadel.rol.im/IBMWIN3.zip . Also repacked and uploaded to the FTP.

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 PostPost subject: Re: [UPLOADED] Windows 3.02 Japanese IBM OEM for PC and PS/5        Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:13 pm 
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...holy crap. Been waiting for this for nearly two years.
Thanks for sharing. Next stop, IBM DOS 4.07/V. I have a screenshot of 4.06/V.

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- DiskingRound: We have 4.05/V and 4.06/V on the FTP. But yeah, 4.07/V would be nice to have. Maybe we'll get it one day. :p

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- DiskingRound: We have 4.05/V and 4.06/V on the FTP. But yeah, 4.07/V would be nice to have. Maybe we'll get it one day. :p


Yeah, and Compaq DOS 5.0/V too...

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- JimOlive: I fixed that. If you click at the thumbnails now, you will get to the full-sized screenshots. :p

Edit: Also, TheCollector found references in the Readme to 3.0 and 3.01, so I guess those exist in Japanese too. Also, there's that Japanese 3.0 for PC that was released on the Microsoft Far East SDK.

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 PostPost subject: Re: [UPLOADED] Windows 3.02 Japanese IBM OEM for PC and PS/5        Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:36 am 
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Battler wrote:
- JimOlive: I fixed that. If you click at the thumbnails now, you will get to the full-sized screenshots. :p

Edit: Also, TheCollector found references in the Readme to 3.0 and 3.01, so I guess those exist in Japanese too. Also, there's that Japanese 3.0 for PC that was released on the Microsoft Far East SDK.

3.01 is also mentioned in an old forum post from 1994.
www.science-bbs.com/115-lang-japan/3b8acd54ebf0aa44.htm
Hope it's found one day.

Anyway, this is an awesome find, in my opinion of the most significant finds this year.

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List of Japanese Windows 3.0x versions:
- 3.0 [PC-98] [NEC OEM] (BA thread);
- 3.0B [PC-98] [NEC OEM] (Page that talks about it);
- 3.0 [PC-98] [Epson OEM] (BA thread);
- 3.0 [PC/AT] [IBM PS/55] (3.02's readme);
- 3.01 [PC/AT] [IBM PS/55] (3.02's readme and Discussion about it found by DiskingRound);
- 3.02 [PC/AT] [IBM PS/55] (the one this thread is about);
- 3.0 [PC/AT] (available on the Microsoft Far East SDK);
- 3.0 [AX] (Page showing an AX laptop running it).

Something called the Display Dispatch Driver (DDD) exists to allow you to run English display drivers on Japanese Windows 3.0x for PC-compatibles.

In addition, this page shows an AX machine running Windows 2.x Japanese for the AX, and this page talks about Windows 2.1 Japanese Acer OEM for the AX.

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 PostPost subject: Re: [UPLOADED] Windows 3.02 Japanese IBM OEM for PC and PS/5        Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:15 pm 
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List of Japanese Windows 3.0x versions:
- 3.0 [PC-98] [NEC OEM] (BA thread);
- 3.0B [PC-98] [NEC OEM] (Page that talks about it);
- 3.0 [PC-98] [Epson OEM] (BA thread);
- 3.0 [PC/AT] [IBM PS/55] (3.02's readme);
- 3.01 [PC/AT] [IBM PS/55] (3.02's readme and Discussion about it found by DiskingRound);
- 3.02 [PC/AT] [IBM PS/55] (the one this thread is about);
- 3.0 [PC/AT] (available on the Microsoft Far East SDK);
- 3.0 [AX] (Page showing an AX laptop running it).

Something called the Display Dispatch Driver (DDD) exists to allow you to run English display drivers on Japanese Windows 3.0x for PC-compatibles.

In addition, this page shows an AX machine running Windows 2.x Japanese for the AX, and this page talks about Windows 2.1 Japanese Acer OEM for the AX.

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It is possible I saw a reference to 3.00a in Japanese one, but I don't know where it is or if I even saw it.

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Well, iirc winhistory.de has a screenshot of 3.00a Japanese, but I don't know if it's for NEC PC-98 or IBM PC compatibles.

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Well, iirc winhistory.de has a screenshot of 3.00a Japanese, but I don't know if it's for NEC PC-98 or IBM PC compatibles.

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Unfortunately owner of the website obeys local laws so it's unlikely we'll get a copy of this from him.

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How do I install the DOS 4.0/V? I tried several times but it never is bootable.

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- DiskingRound: The DOS 4.05/V is definitely bootable and it boots right into Setup. Also, I recommend a small enough hard disk... I used a 203 MB disk image.

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Screenshots of Windows 3.02 running on MS-DOS 5.0/V and MS-DOS 6.2/V, respectively:
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This shows that it works on both those versions and that it obtains the double-byte part of the font (ie. the part with kana and kanji) from DOS.

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- DiskingRound: The DOS 4.05/V is definitely bootable and it boots right into Setup. Also, I recommend a small enough hard disk... I used a 203 MB disk image.


Really? I always get this:
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Using AMI 386 clone. With PC AT I get stuck on BIOS configuration.

Never mind. Turns out I didn't set the disk drive correctly in PCem. It was at 1.44 MB which cannot read 1.2 MB disks.

Also, I ment to say I have a screenshot of the 4.06/V installer. I think the copy of the FTP is the DOS files while the 5.0/V is the installer.

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I used a Pentium board, both floppy drives set to 1.44 MB 3-Mode, and configured as such in CMOS Setup as well. The DOS booted fine. Plus you need at least one 1.44 MB drive anyway since the 3.02 comes on 1.44 MB images.

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According to this site: http://www.intercom.co.jp/support/mytal ... v1300.html , Windows 3.0A Japanese existed for the FMR and for the FM-Towns.

Edit: And this site: http://saturnjapan.com/blog/archives/cat5/ has screenshots of Windows 3.0A Japanese for the J-3100S.

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Hacking through setup.exe and win.cnf, with the famous DOS/V font emulator dosvfont.com loaded, I did get this version to run in DOSBox.
What a dirty approach to load display font using DOS/V int 15h, just like they did in PC-98 3.0!
however it did have bitmap fonts PS55DGxx.JFD (Gothic) and PS55DMxx.JFD (Mincho) installed by default.
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It's not fully localized as it's write.exe has the so-called "Semi-Kanji" bug and the preinstalled IME is barebone.
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