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The lost builds

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Guess what me and mrpijey are trying to find:
Win9x wrote:0DAY/Windows.Millennium.2368-TRPS [10yrs 22w 4d 23h 35m 23s] (1999-09-08)
[9] 0DAY/Windows.98.Official.Release.Canidate.3-GLoW [10yrs 42w 1d 23h 38m 1s] (1999-04-24)
[10] 0DAY/Windows.98.OSR.Beta.Refresh-GLoW [11yrs 7w 4d 17h 49m 15s] (1998-12-22)
[11] 0DAY/Windows.98.OSR1.Beta.1-GLoW [11yrs 11w 5d 17h 49m 15s] (1998-11-23)
[12] 0DAY/Windows.98.RC3-SHOCK [11yrs 42w 17h 49m 15s] (1998-04-25)
[13] 0DAY/Windows.98.Plus.Pak.RC1-GLOW [11yrs 43w 2d 17h 49m 15s] (1998-04-16)
[15] 0DAY/Windows.98.1702.from.winbeta-IND [11yrs 49w 2d 17h 49m 15s] (1998-03-05)
[45] [0DAY] [Microsoft.Windows98.2183-GLoW] [10yrs 44w 3d 23h 39m 5s] [1999-04-08] [23:59:59 CET]
[48] [0DAY] [Windows98.second.edition.build2162-glow] [10yrs 48w 1d 23h 39m 5s] [1999-03-13] [23:59:59 CET]
[0DAY] [Microsoft.Windows98.OSR1.2126-GLoW] [11yrs 4w 17h 50m 19s] [1999-01-16] [23:59:59 CET]
[0DAY] [Windows98.OSR1.2131-GLoW] [11yrs 2w 6d 17h 50m 19s] [1999-01-24] [23:59:59 CET]
[63] [0DAY] [Windows.98.SP1.Beta.1-GLoW] [11yrs 16w 17h 50m 19s] [1998-10-24] [23:59:59 CET]
[60] [0DAY] [Windows.98.OSR1.Beta.1-GLoW] [11yrs 11w 5d 17h 50m 19s] [1998-11-23] [23:59:59 CET]
[91] [0DAY] [Windows98.RC5.FINAL.BETA-MTY] [11yrs 40w 17h 50m 20s] [1998-05-09] [23:59:59 CET]
[91] [0DAY] [Windows98.RC5.FINAL.BETA-MTY] [11yrs 40w 17h 50m 20s] [1998-05-09] [23:59:59 CET]
[0DAY] [Windows.98.RC3-SHOCK] [11yrs 42w 17h 50m 20s] [1998-04-25] [23:59:59 CET]
[95] [0DAY] [Windows.98.Plus.Pak.RC1-GLOW] [11yrs 43w 2d 17h 50m 20s] [1998-04-16] [23:59:59 CET]
[1] [0DAY] [WINDOWS98.MEMPHIS.BETACD.ADDON-LEGENDARY] [12yrs 25w 5d 12h 4m 44s] [1997-08-17] [23:59:59 CET]
[25] [0DAY] [MS_Memphis_1134_Beta2-DMN] [13yrs 20w 2d 6h 16m 20s] [1996-09-24] [23:59:59 CET]
[18] [0DAY] [MicroSoft.Memphis.4.10.Build1434-GLoW] [12yrs 41w 2d 12h 5m 6s] [1997-04-30] [23:59:59 CET]
[8] [0DAY] [Memphis.1544-SWAT] [12yrs 30w 12h 5m 6s] [1997-07-18] [23:59:59 CET]
[4] [0DAY] [MS.Memphis.1593-SWAT] [12yrs 19w 6d 12h 5m 6s] [1997-09-27] [23:59:59 CET]
[1] [0DAY] [Microsoft_Windows_95_950C_OSR2.5_beta-PWA] [12yrs 14w 1d 12h 8m 21s] [1997-11-06] [23:59:59 CET]
[6] [APPS] [Memphis_Build_1614-TNOC] [12yrs 15w 5d 17h 51m 44s] [1997-10-26] [23:59:59 CET]
[7] [APPS] [Memphis_Build_1593_Fixed_Microsoft-TNC] [12yrs 18w 3d 17h 51m 44s] [1997-10-07] [23:59:59 CET]
[8] [APPS] [Windows.98.Memphis.Beta.3.Build.1582-RPS] [12yrs 20w 6d 17h 51m 44s] [1997-09-20] [23:59:59 CET]
[9] [APPS] [MS.MEMPHIS.98.BETA.2.BUILD.1564.INTERNAL-LEGENDARY] [12yrs 26w 1d 17h 51m 44s] [1997-08-14] [23:59:59 CET]
[10] [APPS] [MS_MEMPHIS_BUILD_1544-SWAT] [12yrs 30w 1d 17h 51m 44s] [1997-07-17] [23:59:59 CET]
[11] [APPS] [Microsoft.Memphis_Build_1518-PWA] [12yrs 35w 1d 17h 51m 44s] [1997-06-12] [23:59:59 CET]
[15] [APPS] [Microsofts_Memphis_Build_1434_Pre-Release-OM] [12yrs 41w 2d 17h 51m 44s] [1997-04-30] [23:59:59 CET]
[18] [APPS] [Microsoft_Memphis_Build_1411-PWA] [12yrs 47w 2d 17h 51m 44s] [1997-03-19] [23:59:59 CET]
[8] [APPS] [Windows.Millennium.Build.2470-ACS] [9yrs 51w 1d 11h 21m 7s] [2000-02-21] [23:59:59 CET]
NT-based OSes wrote:[94] [APPS] [Microsoft_Windows_2000_Server_Build_1996-PWA] [10yrs 48w 5d 14m 57s] [1999-03-10] [23:59:59 CET]
[95] [APPS] [Microsoft_Windows_2000_Professional_Build_1969-PWA] [11yrs 4d 18h 26m 11s] [1999-02-09] [23:59:59 CET]
There's probably a lot more.
I'm interested in this "Memphis 1134" and the win95 OSR2.5 beta.

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Re: The lost builds

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hrm... I smell looking through torrent trackers and hoping for the best...
You might run into some interesting things via torrent too (like using DHT and Peer exchange to find stuff that trackers won't)

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Re: The lost builds

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bit offtopic, but i'd like to know what torrent sites (public, not private)
are good for searching beta OS's, i know Pirate Bay has it but its generic
and only has most known leaks
maybe it was leaves...

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Are any original filenames of images/archives available (or are those in the first post are original names)?
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Suumpmolk wrote:bit offtopic, but i'd like to know what torrent sites (public, not private)
are good for searching beta OS's, i know Pirate Bay has it but its generic
and only has most known leaks
I haven't been able to ever find one... I figured they just didn't exist. Stuff like that doesn't last long on torrent trackers. You probably couldn't even find Vista betas anymore, let alone anything older.

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Suumpmolk wrote:bit offtopic, but i'd like to know what torrent sites (public, not private)
are good for searching beta OS's, i know Pirate Bay has it but its generic
and only has most known leaks
It worth to look for the stuff in ed2k network since it keeps some files for a much longer time than torrents.
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In the case with beta builds, however, I'm afraid it would only keep files from OSBetaArchive at the most.

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thats a shame
maybe it was leaves...

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i dont know if this off-topic but in regards to Windows Memphis 1233 ( the one with the experimental 3D explorer ) i know no one is willing to share that build but there might be a way to get hold of the 3D explorer:

i remember playing around with either a Chicago or a Memphis build, i was in a sub directory the c:\Windows ( i ALWAYS enable "show hidden files"), i found a file, (i think it was a .bin file , it DEFIANTLY was not a .exe file ) in one of the directories so i double clicked on it ( i used to double click on every file when i was a noob to see what would happen) and the 3D explorer appeared right above the normal taskbar, the startmenu did not display, just the 3D explorer taskbar, i rebooted windows and double clicked the file again but the 3D explorer did not display, and of course i didnt think to save a copy of the file or write down the build number of the windows build that i was playing around with, SO if anyone has the time ( or want ) then it could be a way to get hold of the 3D explorer.

*im about 70 % sure that it was a late build of Chicago and im about 90% sure that it was a .bin file.
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I'll check my installation of Chicago Build 480 German and look for any .BIN files and see what happens.

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im going to have a look too, i just got to find some spare time.
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Well... the only reason I assumed torrent was because of the tag "0DAY" at the begining of most of them... A few of the "Exclusive" torrent trackers that I was part of used to release packs like that... I picked what I liked, and seeded the whole 20gb pack for about a week on my dad's work computer (Until the new pack came out, then i'd delete everything I didn't want, and seed the latest release)
I'll check some obscure places... if you've got file names, Filewatcher.com might be able to help

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As I said, they would only have files going as far as the early OSBetaArchive days, if even that. Otherwise, I would have noticed, not to mention I would have found them in Google search results already, and most likely many other people as well.

EDIT: If anyone didn't notice, this is almost completely a Linux related search engine.

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what about the ancient newsgroups Usenet?
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arent they "must pay" to gain acc ?
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Usenet would only have contacts, and most likely (almost certainly actually) they would have changed their email addresses many times by now. They also would not be likely to give out their builds, remember that most Usenet users they're also from a different generation, and as such, they even remember when the Internet existed, and they're also very busy people in general, so even if you do find their email addresses, you should treat them with respect, and get to know them first before asking them for their beta collections.

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