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 PostPost subject: Re: Ye olde archive is about to expire!        Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:38 pm 
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7 houses... maxed out bandwidth... either you are john McCain or every other annoying aol'er on the intnernet.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Ye olde archive is about to expire!        Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:01 pm 
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So um what's getting thrown out?


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The hacked stuff, uploads with serials provided, warez, duplicated uploads, corrupt archives..

So I expect the cleaned-up version around a amounth of 4-6 weeks.


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The hacked stuff, uploads with serials provided, warez, duplicated uploads, corrupt archives..

So I expect the cleaned-up version around a amounth of 4-6 weeks.

If it was me and I have so much free times, it would be only around 2 or 3 weeks

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7 houses... maxed out bandwidth... either you are john McCain or every other annoying aol'er on the intnernet.

Sarah Palin I guess? :P

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 PostPost subject: Re: Ye olde archive is about to expire!        Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:50 am 
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But there are still a lot of stuff in the archive I can't identify


Can you please make a folder for the Office versions? I really like to have them and I think i'm not the only one.


I will make the folders needed to keep an ordered structure... I am not going to add a bunch of "bad" releases just because I can. You can access the abandonware Office versions already, and I'll add whatever other Office version I can from the old archive. But I am not yet adding Office 97 or newer. If you need that you will have to look elsewhere for the time being.

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awe no office 97 easter eggs, guess ill live with the 95 ones :P.


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I didn't say never, just not now. I can't do everything at once, I do actually have other priorities at BA as well, and also other stuff to do. I prioritize betas first. Abandonware is less important, and I believe I released most of the "important" ones. If you want Office 97 it's easily found on the "net".

I will release it some day to BA, but not now, and for several reasons.

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I have a bit of free time every day so if you could use help I'd be glad to (sounds like your swamped)


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I have a bit of free time every day so if you could use help I'd be glad to (sounds like your swamped)

Me too can help if needed, but the timezone differences may have some effects :P

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Exactly how big is the "Old Archive"? I saw 81gb earlier in the thread, is that correct?

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Yep. I said it was 81GB. I kept dividing by 1024 (well unless its 82944 GM - unbelievable)

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If there was needed some help, i want to help. But not before January 28th. Then my Internet Bandwidth gets resetted :D


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I have created a list of things that needs to be moved to the (Beta) Applications folder, coming from the Old Archive folder:

(Beta) Applications:

CCleaner 1.27.242 Beta.exe
CCleaner 1.27.255 Beta.exe
CCleaner 2.00.475 Beta.exe
CCleaner 2.00.491 Beta 2.exe
CCleaner 2.00.495 RC.exe
Firefox Setup 1.0 RC2.rar
Firefox Setup 2.0 Beta 1.rar
Firefox Setup 2.0 RC 3.rar
Firefox Setup 3.0 Beta 1.rar
Firefox Setup 3.0 Beta 5.rar
Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 1.rar
Google Chrome (Build 1600).rar
Google Chrome (Build 1601).rar
Google Chrome (Build 1603).rar
Google Chrome (Build 1608).rar
Google Chrome BETA 0.2.149.27.rar
IE6 BETA Build 2462 Simplified Chinese.zip
IE7 BETA 1 Standalone.rar
IE7 Beta 2 Build 5346.rar
IE7 Beta 2 Preview.rar
IE7 RC1.rar
IE8 Beta1 Server2003 SP2 x86.rar
IE8 Beta1 Server2003 XPSP2 x64.rar
IE8 Beta1 Vista SV2008 x64.rar
IE8 Beta1 Vista Sv2008 x86.rar
IE8 Beta1 XPSP2 x86.rar
Internet Explorer 7 BETA 3 32bit German.rar
Joost 1.0 Beta.exe
Joost 1.0.1 Beta.exe
Joost 1.0.2 Beta.exe
Messenger Plus! Live Beta 226.rar
Messenger Plus! Live Beta 316.rar
Messenger Plus! Live Beta 317.rar
Messenger Plus! Live Beta 318.rar
Messenger Plus! Live Beta 319.rar
Microsoft AntiSpyware 1.0.501 Beta.exe
Microsoft AntiSpyware 1.0.613 Beta.exe
Microsoft AntiSpyware 1.0.614 Beta.exe
Microsoft AntiSpyware 1.0.701 Beta.exe
Microsoft Assesment and Planning Solution BETA.rar
Microsoft Silverlight 1.0 8.0.20416.10 (SL_MIX07_CTP.020416-1000) Beta.exe
Microsoft Silverlight 1.0 8.0.20813.00 (Silverlight_10RTM.020813-0000) RC.exe
Microsoft Silverlight 1.0 8.0.20926.00 (Svcmain.020926-0000).exe
Microsoft Silverlight 1.1 8.0.20416.10 (SL_MIX07_CTP.020416-1000) Alpha.exe
Microsoft Silverlight 1.1 8.0.20813.00 (Silverlight_10RTM.020813-0000) Alpha Refresh August 2007.exe
Microsoft Silverlight 1.1 8.0.20816.00 (Silverlight.10RTM.020816-0000) Alpha Refresh September 2007.exe
Microsoft Silverlight 1.1 8.0.20926.00 (Svcmain.020926-0000) Alpha Refresh October 2007.exe
MSN Messenger 6.1.0114 Beta.msi
MSN Messenger 6.1.0128 Beta.msi
MSN Messenger 6.1.0150 Beta.msi
MSN Messenger 7.0.0205 Beta.msi
MSN Messenger 7.0.0225 Beta.exe
MSN Messenger 7.0.0332 Beta.exe
MSN Messenger 7.0.0425 Beta.exe
MSN Messenger 7.0.0429 Beta.EXE
MSN Messenger 7.0.0604 Beta.MSI
MSN Messenger 7.0.0632 Beta.exe
MSN Messenger 7.0.0732 Beta.msi
MSN Messenger 7.5.0160 Beta.exe
MSN Messenger 7.5.0162 Beta.exe
MSN Messenger 7.5.0244 Beta.exe
Notepad++ 4.0 RC 2.zip
Office 11 (2003) Beta 1.rar
Opera 9.20 Build 8713 (English Version).rar
Opera 9.20 Build 8713 (International Version).rar
Paint.NET 2.1 Beta.msi
Paint.NET 2.5 Beta 1.exe
Paint.NET 2.5 Beta 2.exe
Paint.NET 2.5 Beta 3.exe
Paint.NET 2.5 Beta 4.exe
Paint.NET 2.5 Beta 5.exe
Paint.NET 2.5 RC 1.exe
Paint.NET 2.5 RC 2.exe
Paint.NET 2.6 Beta 1.exe
Paint.NET 2.6 Beta 2.exe
Paint.NET 2.6 RC 1.exe
Paint.NET 2.6 RC 2.exe
Paint.NET 2.70 Beta 1.exe
Paint.NET 3.0 Beta 1.exe
Paint.NET 3.0 Beta 2.exe
Paint.NET 3.0 Beta 3.exe
Paint.NET 3.0 RC 1.exe
Paint.NET 3.05 Beta.exe
Paint.NET 3.07 Beta.exe
Paint.NET 3.08 Beta.exe
Paint.NET 3.10 Beta 2.exe
Paint.NET 3.10 Beta.exe
Paint.NET 3.20 Alpha 2.exe
Paint.NET 3.20 Alpha.exe
phpBB3 2.2 BETA.rar
phpBB3 BETA 1.rar
phpBB3 BETA 2.rar
phpBB3 BETA 3.rar
phpBB3 BETA 4.rar
phpBB3 Beta 5.rar
phpBB3 Release Candidate 1.rar
phpBB3 Release Candidate 2.rar
phpBB3 Release Candidate 3.rar
phpBB3 Release Candidate 4.rar
phpBB3 Release Candidate 5.rar
phpBB3 Release Candidate 6.rar
phpBB3 Release Candidate 7.rar
phpBB3 Release Candidate 8.rar
SteadyState 2.5 Beta.rar
Virtual PC 2007 Beta (32-bit)
Virtual PC 2007 Beta (64-bit)
Virtual PC 2007 RC 32 Bit.rar
WinAmp 0.97 Beta.exe
Windows Defender 1.1.1051 Beta 2.msi
Windows Defender 1.1.1347 Beta 2.msi
Windows Installer 4 5 Beta IA64 Multilingual Pre-Vista.rar
Windows Installer 4 5 Beta X86 Multilingual Pre-Vista.rar
Windows L ive Messenger 8.1.0064 Beta.exe
Windows Live Family Safety Setting Beta Version 1.5.rar
Windows Live Messenger 8.0.0365 Beta.exe
Windows Live Messenger 8.0.0562 Beta.exe
Windows Live Messenger 8.0.0683.00 Beta.exe
Windows Live Messenger 9 BETA Build 14.0.3921.717.rar
Windows Live Messenger BETA 9.0.1407.1107.rar
Windows Live Wave Public Beta 3.rar
Windows Media Player 8 Build 4228, for Windows Me and 2000.rar
Windows Media Player 8 Build 4473, for Windows 2000 (Disable SFC).rar
Windows Media Player 8 Build 4473, for Windows 2000 SP2.rar
Windows Media Player 8 Build 4477, for Windows 2000 (Disable SFC).rar
Windows Media Player 8 Build 4477, for Windows 2000 SP2.rar
Windows Media Player 9 Build 2799, for Windows 9x and 2000.rar
Windows Media Player 9 Build 2799, for Windows XP.rar
Windows Media Player BETA 11.0.5358.4826.rar
Windows Media Player BETA 11.0.5358.4827.rar
Windows Server 2008 Beta3 Language packs x86.rar
WINFS Beta 1 (copy 2).rar
WinFS Beta 1 Refresh.rar
WinFS Beta 1.rar
WinFX Runtime Build 3906.22.rar
XPL Beta 3 Build 1211.rar


All these files are in need to be moved to the (Beta) Applications folder ;).

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Thanks, I'll sort it through. I don't think we will keep all those releases, but I'll repack what I can from it. Thanks for the help.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Ye olde archive is about to expire!        Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:27 pm 
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Thanks, glad you had something on. If you want it, I can repack all the CCleaner versions in the Old Archive folder.


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Thanks for the offer, but you don't have the winrar settings I use to pack up all these releases. And for the sake of consistency I prefer to repack everything myself so I can with a clear mind say that everything has been checked and packed by me =D. And I don't think we will keep those ccleaner stuff anyway. It's freeware software, it's not widely known nor is it even any good =). We can't keep every piece of beta and build of every freeware software out there... So some releases that are practically unusable or unknown will have to go.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Ye olde archive is about to expire!        Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:51 pm 
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Aren't these settings you have posted in the BetaArchive FTP Upload Log and edited when the MD5 checksum rule came?

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- All releases are packed up with WinRAR 3.71.
- All releases are packed up with a 5% recovery record. This way you can recover the archive yourself if you get minor bit errors.
- All releases are packed up into ONE individual archive. This simplifies managing and FTP listing. Use a client that supports resumes.
- All releases gets a MD5 hash calculated which is put in the file _checksum.md5 in each folder. You can use this file to make sure your release is 100% authentic.
- A release will only be made available to the public once it's been verified, renamed, uploaded (by me) and MD5 hash verified (by Andy).


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Yes, but I also add some other stuff to it. Still, I repack everything even if it's already packed up.

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Don't really need to keep all those CCleaner builds, you can still get them from the CCleaner site.


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Yeah, that actually goes for most freeware and open source applications, like Paint.Net and so. They are usually widely spread so they are always easy to find.

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Only beta's aren't avalible as download on their site.


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umm, yeah, they are...


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Regardless, we can't keep every beta of every tiny app on the net, especially not if it's common open source or not.

Anyway, the old archive is no longer available to the members. I will continue my work on it, so expect more releases from it in the future. And if any member has any questions about an upload or repack please PM me and I'll answer as quickly as I can. If you want any particular release from it to be prioritized for a repack let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Do not request copies of the old archive, it's been up for a very long time now and everyone has had a chance to grab whatever they were interested in from it.

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mrpijey wrote:
My point being is that Vista, Windows Server 2008 and Windows 7 can all be installed without a serial and run in trial mode until you are forced to either register or dump it. It makes it kind of shareware where you have to pay to continue using it, but you can try it for a limited time. This should make the ISO:s practically free for distribution. I am going to ask Microsoft and see what their policy is regarding this.

I recently e-mailed Microsoft Online Customer Service with some questions on what their policys and copyright laws were on various things, here's what they had to say about that:
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This would be considered to be a breach of the license terms of the EULA/MSLT if you’re talking about an ISO/image created from a deployed fully licensed version of the software. Microsoft has released an evaluation 30 day trial of Windows Vista Enterprise (which is available for download here); if a customer wants to evaluate Vista they should do via the provided trial software.

On most of my question's he refered to the EULA, which I read a while back, basically everything on the server is illegal as the creation and distribution of those ISO's is a violation of the EULA...

*Not that we should stop this whole thing just because its illegal, if MS wanted us finished it would've happened a long time ago.


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