Windows 1.0 DR4 -- August 31, 1984

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Windows 1.0 DR4 -- August 31, 1984

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While researching early versions of Windows, I just now came across BetaArchive. What a good site!

Frankly, I was quite surprised to find that little is known about Windows DR1 through 4.

Well, perhaps I can settle one issue: DR4 was released on August 31,1984.

This is based upon the date listed on all three disks. The Microsoft DR4 Tool Kit and Release notes both have "August, 1984".

Hope this helps!

(I would upload images of all three disks but I don't have that privilege yet).

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Uhhh... Are you in possession of these things? It would be great if you could share these with us! For images, you could try uploading them elsewhere and getting someone else to post the pictures. I hope this is real because that would be an incredible thing to have.

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What do you mean by that you don't have any privilege yet?

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ToMi1 wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:35 pm
What do you mean by that you don't have any privilege yet?
IIRC, you need three posts to use the image uploader.

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ToMi1 wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:35 pm
What do you mean by that you don't have any privilege yet?
New users can't upload images, they have to have 3 approved posts.
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Ah, well that would make sense.

You can also use Imgur or Pasteboard if you want. Just upload an image there and post a link.

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Yes, I have the DR 4 software disks. I would be glad to upload images, but being a new contributor on BetaArchive, I have to have three posts approved before I am allowed to upload images 8-)
I'll see what I can do to about posting a pic elsewhere.

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If this is real, then I will actually scream.
Is AlphaBeta really brainwashing us though? *hehe*

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You can use a site like imgur to upload images of the discs.
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Allosgroup wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:37 pm
Yes, I have the DR 4 software disks. I would be glad to upload images, but being a new contributor on BetaArchive, I have to have three posts approved before I am allowed to upload images 8-)
I'll see what I can do to about posting a pic elsewhere.
Use the wiki if you can. Or just make a post in the introduction topic.

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It should be fairly easy to upload images on imgur or a similar website. If you want, we can also help you with getting them dumped and preserved.

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Sorry for the lag time, I had work to do.

So, here is a link for three pics:
Pic 1) the binder containing the disks, Release Notes, User Guide, Programmer's Guide, and Programmer's Reference Manual
Pic 2) the first page of the "Microsoft Windows 1.0 Release Notes"
Pic 3) the three disks included in the release.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6DKo863EF4Zd4wZ46
Please let me know if the link works, thanks!


Yes, DR4 does exist. No, I have not tried to load/read the disks.

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We can tell you how to dump and preserve the disks (if you want to)! :D
Is AlphaBeta really brainwashing us though? *hehe*

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Nice, do you happen to have a Floppy disc drive? You could use Kyroflux or WinImage to help dump and preserve these discs if you are comfortable with that :)
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Uploading all the images here for preservation purposes. Very awesome discovery you made here, I'll be interested in seeing how this all unfolds later on.

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Nice, didn't think we would actually get to see anything pre-dr5. Would be really neat to get dumps of the discs.
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Coolperson2323 wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:18 am
Nice, do you happen to have a Floppy disc drive? You could use Kyroflux or WinImage to help dump and preserve these discs if you are comfortable with that :)
Just a warning: Make absolutely certain the floppies are write-protected, to prevent unsolicited modification of them by the OS on which you're dumping them.
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Where did you even got these disks? That's an absolute rarity.

Anyway, good job Allosgroup! Thank you very much for this discovery.

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Allosgroup wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:10 am
Sorry for the lag time, I had work to do.

So, here is a link for three pics:
Pic 1) the binder containing the disks, Release Notes, User Guide, Programmer's Guide, and Programmer's Reference Manual
Pic 2) the first page of the "Microsoft Windows 1.0 Release Notes"
Pic 3) the three disks included in the release.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6DKo863EF4Zd4wZ46
Please let me know if the link works, thanks!


Yes, DR4 does exist. No, I have not tried to load/read the disks.
Can you please upload the images without the watermarks?

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I can upload them to BA Wiki, I'll just add them to the "Images with watermarks" category, and then replace with a clean copy when available.
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Allosgroup wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:10 am
Sorry for the lag time, I had work to do.

So, here is a link for three pics:
Pic 1) the binder containing the disks, Release Notes, User Guide, Programmer's Guide, and Programmer's Reference Manual
Pic 2) the first page of the "Microsoft Windows 1.0 Release Notes"
Pic 3) the three disks included in the release.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6DKo863EF4Zd4wZ46
Please let me know if the link works, thanks!


Yes, DR4 does exist. No, I have not tried to load/read the disks.
Thank you, this is fantastic and very valuable. Just the one page with the release notes that you've shared provides us with historical info that we previously didn't know about. In case you need help to read the disks, there are people who can provide it (including myself) depending on your geographical location...

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Wow.
As I stated in my first post, I have been trying to research early versions of MS Windows. While I knew I had an early copy, I did not realize how rare it was. I wrongly assumed that copies of DR1 through 4 were floating around. So, is the first copy of DR4 that has appeared?

Always being enamored with computers, I did most of my collecting of vintage Microsoft and other related computer items in the 1990's, and have recently decided to part with most of them. Thus the reason for the research, as I am trying to determine values. I have had DR4 in my possession for some 30 years, just sitting on the shelf. I am glad to help preserve and share it with others, with caveats.

As you can see, other than glue bleeding through the adhesive on the labels, the disks appear to be in near mint condition, and I feel confident that the data is intact. I am familiar with the process of dumping, but I am not currently setup to do it (and I am not sure that I want to attempt it myself with these disks, for fear of messing them up!).

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I doubt dumping disks would do any damage to the disks. Just make sure they're write-protected before dumping them.
Is AlphaBeta really brainwashing us though? *hehe*

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If I were to scan the Release notes (there are eight pages) am I able to upload them as a pdf? If not, then how? (Sorry, this site is new to me)

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Allosgroup wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:58 pm
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If I were to scan the Release notes (there are eight pages) am I able to upload them as a pdf? If not, then how? (Sorry, this site is new to me)
You can upload the PDF to some file sharing site (Google Drive, OneDrive, Mega.nz, Mediafire, etc.) and just post a link here.

Photos or scans of the whole accompanying documentation would also be very welcome to have, as that first page alone has already revealed several new pieces of information about these early builds.
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