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 PostPost subject: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:09 pm 
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In early Chicago builds (58s-73g), there exists an "S3" option in the list of built-in display drivers. The problem is, I don't know what specific S3 display I should select for it to work correctly! I've tried everything, a Trio32, Trio64, but Windows just refuses to load if I select the S3 display driver.

Can someone please say what display I should select for it to work properly? Thank you.
By the way, I am using 86Box to emulate Chicago build 73g.

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 PostPost subject: Re: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:10 pm 
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Either S3 801 or 805.

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 PostPost subject: Re: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:45 pm 
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I tried a VLB S3 86c805 and an ISA S3 86c801 (they weren't available with PCI or anything else) and they didn't do anything, it still gave me a black screen when I tried to start Windows.

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 PostPost subject: Re: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:49 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:53 pm 
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I can't even see a Trident G4000 in 86Box VM configuration. Even if it was there, it wouldn't work with the S3 display.

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 PostPost subject: Re: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:05 pm 
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640x480x256 colours. When I select it, it displays a black screen and doesn't even play the startup sound. When I select my preferred resolution (1024x768x16777216 colours), it displays an error loading the video adapter.

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 PostPost subject: Re: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:19 pm 
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1024x768x24/32bpp isn't supported by the built-in driver, 640x480x8bpp should be supported, try reinstalling the build.

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 PostPost subject: Re: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:54 am 
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 PostPost subject: Re: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:45 am 
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 PostPost subject: Re: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:22 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:54 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:14 pm 
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 PostPost subject: Re: What does the "S3" display mean in early Chicago builds?        Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:04 am 
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Essentially, not all S3 drivers are created equal; using a display adapter such as the S3 ViRGE/DX or a Trio series with the S3 drivers included in Chicago 58s (and newer builds as well, I suppose) will cause severe problems in my experience.

The SPEA V7 Mirage, which is an S3 86c801 card, has been confirmed to function at 1024 x 768 x 8 bpp (256 colors) for me.
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