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 PostPost subject: Re: Shorthorn Project        Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:54 pm 
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Well, it's depends of your machine. On PCs with intel whats doesn't have USB 3.0 and Geforce series 900, Radeon serie 300 or intel HD 2000, you can run Windows Shorthorn without problem. With Intel skylake now you can install, however, without USB support. And AMD, before Ryzen processor, with same issues.
I'm every day working hard to solve problems with hardware on XP/2003/shorthorn. And when finish, i publish here. I want run on my computer too, it is skylake machine with usb 3.0


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 PostPost subject: Re: Shorthorn Project        Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:21 pm 
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Well, it's depends of your machine. On PCs with intel whats doesn't have USB 3.0 and Geforce series 900, Radeon serie 300 or intel HD 2000, you can run Windows Shorthorn without problem. With Intel skylake now you can install, however, without USB support. And AMD, before Ryzen processor, with same issues.

Hmm... I guess that means if I tried to run Shorthorn on my desktop, which has an AMD Ryzen CPU, it wouldn't work. But it may work on my laptop, which has an Intel CPU.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Shorthorn Project        Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:58 am 
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Well, it's depends of your machine. On PCs with intel whats doesn't have USB 3.0 and Geforce series 900, Radeon serie 300 or intel HD 2000, you can run Windows Shorthorn without problem. With Intel skylake now you can install, however, without USB support. And AMD, before Ryzen processor, with same issues.

Hmm... I guess that means if I tried to run Shorthorn on my desktop, which has an AMD Ryzen CPU, it wouldn't work. But it may work on my laptop, which has an Intel CPU.

did you slipstream acpi.sys with one from Samuka?


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Samuka wrote:
Well, it's depends of your machine. On PCs with intel whats doesn't have USB 3.0 and Geforce series 900, Radeon serie 300 or intel HD 2000, you can run Windows Shorthorn without problem. With Intel skylake now you can install, however, without USB support. And AMD, before Ryzen processor, with same issues.
I'm every day working hard to solve problems with hardware on XP/2003/shorthorn. And when finish, i publish here. I want run on my computer too, it is skylake machine with usb 3.0


Not saying you have to use your main machine, I'm thinking you should have a dedicated machine for testing it is all. Something maybe from the 2011 - 2013 range I think would be ideal.

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Well, it's depends of your machine. On PCs with intel whats doesn't have USB 3.0 and Geforce series 900, Radeon serie 300 or intel HD 2000, you can run Windows Shorthorn without problem. With Intel skylake now you can install, however, without USB support. And AMD, before Ryzen processor, with same issues.

Hmm... I guess that means if I tried to run Shorthorn on my desktop, which has an AMD Ryzen CPU, it wouldn't work. But it may work on my laptop, which has an Intel CPU.

did you slipstream acpi.sys with one from Samuka?

No. I didn't do anything with acpi.sys. I think I would be better off running Shorthorn in a virtual machine than actual hardware.

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Well, it's depends of your machine. On PCs with intel whats doesn't have USB 3.0 and Geforce series 900, Radeon serie 300 or intel HD 2000, you can run Windows Shorthorn without problem. With Intel skylake now you can install, however, without USB support. And AMD, before Ryzen processor, with same issues.

Hmm... I guess that means if I tried to run Shorthorn on my desktop, which has an AMD Ryzen CPU, it wouldn't work. But it may work on my laptop, which has an Intel CPU.


What happned?


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Samuka wrote:
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Samuka wrote:
Well, it's depends of your machine. On PCs with intel whats doesn't have USB 3.0 and Geforce series 900, Radeon serie 300 or intel HD 2000, you can run Windows Shorthorn without problem. With Intel skylake now you can install, however, without USB support. And AMD, before Ryzen processor, with same issues.

Hmm... I guess that means if I tried to run Shorthorn on my desktop, which has an AMD Ryzen CPU, it wouldn't work. But it may work on my laptop, which has an Intel CPU.


What happned?

Oh nothing. We were just asking about what Shorthorn can run on.

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Well, i really don't no. I don't have Ryzen system for now...Only a guy on hardware forum tell me that XP get a BSOD related with ACPI/Hal, so, Shorthorn for now maybe get same BSOD. I will buy a Ryzen system to test. And, i finished adapation of STORAHCI, the universal AHCI driver. Now i'm focused on USB 3.0 universal driver. I don't know if it will work, but, i will try.


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It's been a while since i've seen the project, how's it going for the compatibility thing?

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Some news guys: i was registered on Win-raid forum and some guys made amazing things to Windows XP. Now, we can use on Skylake computers, with ACPI and USB 3.0 support. And, i made somethings, like build a storahci for all AHCI systems, based on Windows 8 storahci source code. And, now we can use Windows Setup including from WIndows 10! I discovered some how bypass Digital signature checks on Winload and we can load both Windows XP and WIndows XP/2003 x64. The guys on win-raid fixed acpi for load winload too, need test on real computer, but, it seem works!


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 PostPost subject: Re: Shorthorn Project        Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:30 am 
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When do you think , your project will be considered like a Beta and usable for testing ? Since you started i forgot
whats is missing to be completed .

For example, is your build able to react like actual windows 7 or 10 for common task
(using all programs, playing, material support..) ?

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Well, shorthorn/one-core-api need more work to be consired usable today. Windows XP lost several support, both software and hardware. The guys on win-raid and me solved some problems related with hardware, like: ACPI 2.0 support (using acpi driver from longhorn 5048), USB 3.0 support (using amd driver and same acpi driver), storahci compiled by me using WIndows 8 code. Windows XP/2003/Shorthorn now has support for Ryzen Processor, and all Skylake+ processors. They are working to get UEFI suport for XP. And, they help me to get support winload on XP, patching acpi driver. However, some things need be done. I'm working on stabilize X64 for implement WDDM. It is the main target now. I'm have plans to port dx11 native or Vulkan drivers, so, we will have dx11 with full speed on XP, based on DXVK. If all fail, i will port dx11 based on DXVK code and using OpenGL and/or Dx9.
And, one-core-api need more work. on some months it will be done.


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It seem so near to the end ^^
I really would like to use other os than 7 or 10 with new hardware , shoud be really great.

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I installed in VMware Shorthorn 64-bit 3804 but I don't understand what this system is better than WinXP SP2 x64.

I read that you can run newer applications on the Shorthorn OS but I try to run GenFss.exe and have error:
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Why the system does not boot using winload.exe. Is there any 64-bit version that can do this?

P.S. I have read the entire topic (41 pages) 8-) 8-)


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Maybe you have other option in right click compatibility ?

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Maybe you have other option in right click compatibility ?

It is not about how to run this program because it is not a problem, e.g. like this: Major, Minor
Apparently, you can run new applications on Shorthorn, and it looks like it can't run a simple tool designed for newer operating systems :|


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oh i see, but this is common program?

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oh i see, but this is common program?

Does not matter.

The only advantage I noticed is that Shorthorn installs using the .WIM image and very quickly. I would like to find out how to install WinXP SP2 x64 from the install.wim image.


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I would like has main os with driver support , but i think (for security is not good i know) we are far from this.
By the way have you heard about similar project for Vista? ^^

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I installed in VMware Shorthorn 64-bit 3804 but I don't understand what this system is better than WinXP SP2 x64.

I read that you can run newer applications on the Shorthorn OS but I try to run GenFss.exe and have error:
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Why the system does not boot using winload.exe. Is there any 64-bit version that can do this?

P.S. I have read the entire topic (41 pages) 8-) 8-)


Well, Shorthorn builds is very early. It's don't have any shorthorn updates packs installed by default and when was made, i din't made changes on compatbitliy. You need install One-Coreapi Binaries installer packs, and get, in case, the One-Core-API base installer and app-compat installer and you can run the program


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I'm so sad. I downloaded and tested Longhorn 5001 and discovered what this build has some things interesting: this is basically a neutral build of Windows Server 2003 client edition. And, i confirmed the guitly of Vista 5231+ interface not works propertly on XP/2003. When i tried transplant 5219 interface and above to xp/2003, i found a problem: all explorer window are blank, without content. It is related with actxprxy.dll. Installing interface of build 5231 on Longhorn 5001 it works without problem. So, i confirmed it is related with one dependency of actprxy.dll: rpcrt4.dll. Server 2003 version has some problem what broken actprxy.dll, and it was solved on build 5000/5001. Because not exists or not leaked version amd64 of thease builds, i can't use it for base of Shorthorn. And, not exists for now a rpcrt4 version what i can use on XP x64 what fixed the problem. I need find differences on required functions from actprxy.dll to solve it on x64. Anybody what can help with it, i appreciate it


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I'm so sad. I downloaded and tested Longhorn 5001 and discovered what this build has some things interesting: this is basically a neutral build of Windows Server 2003 client edition. And, i confirmed the guitly of Vista 5231+ interface not works propertly on XP/2003. When i tried transplant 5219 interface and above to xp/2003, i found a problem: all explorer window are blank, without content. It is related with actxprxy.dll. Installing interface of build 5231 on Longhorn 5001 it works without problem. So, i confirmed it is related with one dependency of actprxy.dll: rpcrt4.dll. Server 2003 version has some problem what broken actprxy.dll, and it was solved on build 5000/5001. Because not exists or not leaked version amd64 of thease builds, i can't use it for base of Shorthorn. And, not exists for now a rpcrt4 version what i can use on XP x64 what fixed the problem. I need find differences on required functions from actprxy.dll to solve it on x64. Anybody what can help with it, i appreciate it


Where did you get this build? I would love to test it. o.o

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Oh! Good to know, thanks! ^^

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