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 PostPost subject: MinWin        Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:37 pm 
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What happened to this? I want a leak of MinWin - how cool would it be to play around with that?

Has there been any more news concerning this? Or did it just dissolve?

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Last I heard they scrapped it, but I would have really loved a leak of the MinWin kernel as well.


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 PostPost subject: Re: MinWin        Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:07 am 
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What a shame, now the closest thing we probably will ever get to it is Windows NCLI (http://www.betaarchive.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2772)
MinWin looked promising, though!

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 PostPost subject: Re: MinWin        Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:46 am 
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I thought the kernel in 6.0/6.1 was MinWin.

Wikipedia says this:

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While Microsoft has stated that MinWin will not be released as a stand-alone product, the various iterations of MinWin have shipped in every Windows operating system release since Windows Vista.


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 PostPost subject: Re: MinWin        Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:11 am 
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QuiescentWonder wrote:
I thought the kernel in 6.0/6.1 was MinWin.

Wikipedia says this:

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While Microsoft has stated that MinWin will not be released as a stand-alone product, the various iterations of MinWin have shipped in every Windows operating system release since Windows Vista.

Wikipedia isn't always trustworthy though...

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 PostPost subject: Re: MinWin        Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:55 am 
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Wikipedia wrote:
In October 2007, Eric Traut, a developer at Microsoft, demonstrated a self-contained MinWin system, made up of about 100 files, on which a basic HTTP server was running. Traut noted that MinWin takes up about 25 MB on disk and has a working set (memory usage) of 40 MB. It lacked a graphical user interface and is interfaced using a full-screen command line interface. Traut explained during the demo that MinWin would not be offered as a stand-alone product, but would instead be used as the basis for future operating system releases such as Windows 7.


Anyone else remember that? I remember how excited I was.

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Several months after Traut's demonstration, some confusion arose from an interview by Ina Fried of Cnet's News.com with Steven Sinofsky, the vice-president of Windows engineering at Microsoft. Sinofsky described the Windows 7 kernel as a further evolution of the Windows Server 2008 kernel, itself an evolution of the Windows Vista kernel. This was interpreted by web sites such as Slashdot to mean that Windows 7 would not include MinWin. Mark Russinovich suggested that some of the confusion surrounding MinWin may be related to the imprecise use of the word "kernel"; MinWin is not, in and of itself a kernel, but rather a set of components that includes both the Windows NT Executive and several other components that Russinovich has described as "Cutler's NT", a reference to Dave Cutler, the original architect of Windows NT.


If you really don't believe it, just follow these links, which are Wikipedia's sources.

http://www.windows-now.com/blogs/robert ... r-all.aspx
http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/Going+De ... Windows-7/


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 PostPost subject: Re: MinWin        Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:22 pm 
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Remember, most of MinWin's functionality is in KernelBase.dll.


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 PostPost subject: Re: MinWin        Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:59 am 
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I was really looking forward to testing this out.. What a shame


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