BetaArchive Logo
Navigation Home Database Screenshots Gallery Image Uploader Server Info FTP Servers Wiki Forum RSS Feed Rules Please Donate
UP: 17d, 4h, 2m | CPU: 44% | MEM: 5502MB of 11705MB used
{The community for beta collectors}

Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
 PostPost subject: Does Dell Dimension 3000 (WinXP-SP2) support 5.25 Floppy?        Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:12 pm 
Reply with quote
Offline

Joined
Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:42 pm

Posts
1

Favourite OS
DOS, Windows, macOS, Linux
I've researched everywhere I know of (Google wasn't too much of a friend this time :> LOL) to see if a Dell Dimension 3000 controller would support both 3.5" and 5.25" floppy drives. Dell's manuals are not helpful. Couldn't find anything on Tom's Hardware. And all the DYI videos just show adding/removing the OEM Dell 3.5" floppy. I have the 5.25" TEAC drive, have the FD universal ribbon cable that has 3.5 and 5.25 drive connectors. Have the power Y cable. I'm hesitant from just plugging in and going ... the last time I did that on an Acer, I ruined the FD controller on the mobo. Just asking if anyone knew. I know it's old tech, but I need to transfer off a bunch of genealogy data and pictures that a deceased relative painstakingly had saved to boxes of 5.25" floppy diskettes decades ago. And the data recovery services out there want ridiculous amounts to do it (one service was charging $25 a diskette and no bulk pricing ...) Thanks in advance for your help - wish they made a USB 5.25 drive other than Device Side Data's Read-Only FC5025 USB 5.25" floppy controller (I'm not even sure they're in business anymore).


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject: Re: Does Dell Dimension 3000 (WinXP-SP2) support 5.25 Floppy        Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:15 pm 
Reply with quote
User avatar
Offline

Joined
Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:39 am

Posts
283

Location
Wisconsin

Favourite OS
Probably 95 or XP
I don’t have an old dell but I do have an HP dc7100 SFF and it detects 5.25” FDDs just fine

_________________
DV
Go check me out on YouTube!
DVINTHEHOUSEMAN- BigBowb1e Productions

mrpijey wrote:
Or someone slipped on a banana peel, fell backwards and accidently hit both the betaarchive.com and "DDoS Express" buttons at the same time.
[/color]


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject: Re: Does Dell Dimension 3000 (WinXP-SP2) support 5.25 Floppy        Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:20 pm 
Reply with quote
Administrator
User avatar
Offline

Joined
Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:28 pm

Posts
7935
That's completely irrelevant, Dell is not the same as HP, they don't use the same motherboards or BIOSes.

_________________
Image
Official guidelines: The Definitive Guide to BetaArchive :: Abandonware
Tools: Alcohol120% (Portable) :: DiscImageCreator
Listings: BetaArchive Database (beta)
Channels: Discord :: Twitter


Top  Profile  WWW
 PostPost subject: Re: Does Dell Dimension 3000 (WinXP-SP2) support 5.25 Floppy        Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:42 pm 
Reply with quote
FTP Access
User avatar
Offline

Joined
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:29 pm

Posts
42

Location
England
BetaNTest wrote:
I've researched everywhere I know of (Google wasn't too much of a friend this time :> LOL) to see if a Dell Dimension 3000 controller would support both 3.5" and 5.25" floppy drives.

I cannot state this with 100% certainty, but I would be amazed if the Dimension 3000 BIOS had 5.25" support. I just checked and the BIOS options for floppy just say internal, USB, read-only or off. There is no option anywhere to declare capacity, which was the case for older systems where both 3.5" and 5.25" drives were compatible.

This said, maybe there are alternatives in the form of USB-pluggable controllers compatible with 5.25" drives. You might want to have a look at either the FC0525 or the SuperCard Pro and see if any of these could give you a way around your problem. If you have any success, please post a note - I know of these but have not used them in conjunction with 5.25" drives.


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject: Re: Does Dell Dimension 3000 (WinXP-SP2) support 5.25 Floppy        Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:48 pm 
Reply with quote
Donator
User avatar
Offline

Joined
Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:52 pm

Posts
85

Favourite OS
Longhorn 4074
If you need something to plug the floppy drive into, could I suggest just looking for an old enough system that you could get your hands on? Something early Athlon XP, or Pentium 3, or older than those two, should have the BIOS and floppy controller features for 5.25" drives. Just look on local marketplace sites, thrifts, even by the roadside or at dumps if you have those in your area and are allowed to take things from there. With some persistance, you'll likely find something that will work great for that purpose.

_________________
MCSA: 70-410, 70-740, Passed for 70-741!, Currently studying for 70-412
MTA: 98-349, 98-365


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject: Re: Does Dell Dimension 3000 (WinXP-SP2) support 5.25 Floppy        Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:50 am 
Reply with quote
Offline

Joined
Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:08 pm

Posts
165
I've never heard of a 5.25" floppy killing a mb. Someone was able to get it working on a Dimension 1100, so it might work. If I can find a working 5.25" floppy I'll check with my Dimension 3000 and report back.
DanielOosterhuis wrote:
Just look on local marketplace sites, thrifts, even by the roadside or at dumps if you have those in your area and are allowed to take things from there. With some persistance, you'll likely find something that will work great for that purpose.

Depends on where you live. My city doesn't have any ewaste dumps, it's illegal to leave it on the side of the road, and most don't go through the trouble of bringing it to a thrift store so they're taken to the local best buy and junked. So the only place to find older machines is through insane people on craigslist who are convinced their 90s pentium box is somehow worth hundreds of dollars.


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject: Re: Does Dell Dimension 3000 (WinXP-SP2) support 5.25 Floppy        Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:23 am 
Reply with quote
Offline

Joined
Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:22 am

Posts
34

Location
Ends of Eternity

Favourite OS
Longhorn
AFAIK, most OEM systems in the late 90s/early 200s didn't have support for 5.25'' floppy drives. What I did was get an old Pentium MMX system and put Windows 98. XP will work, but it's best to have DOS for older disks.


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject: Re: Does Dell Dimension 3000 (WinXP-SP2) support 5.25 Floppy        Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:55 am 
Reply with quote
FTP Access
Offline

Joined
Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:24 am

Posts
217

Favourite OS
Pencil and paper
If I recall correctly, Windows XP supports 1.2mb 5.25" drives. Its format support is rather ridged so it will probably only read standard 1.2mb formatted disks and 360k disks. XP does not support 360k 5.25" drives. As mentioned a Windows9x machine or a machine you can dual-boot to DOS is often a better choice.

To determine if a PC's motherboard supports 5.25" drives, usually just enter the BIOS setup and see if it lets you change the drive type and if "1.2mb" or "360k" drives are allowed as options. If you plan to use the drive as a secondary in addition to another drive, make sure the BIOS setup lists and lets you change both a primary and secondary floppy drive type.

Now, keep in mind reading a disk is not always a simple as plopping it in a drive. If the disks have not been well stored, just plopping them in a drive is likely to rip them apart. Even well stored disks ocasionally get gunk in them.

If nothing else, be sure to carefully inspect the disks and clean any visible grime/dirt before putting them in a drive.

Don't forget to write protect your disks. Windows XP and 9x automatically try to write back to the disk even if you just read files, and that can cause various problems.

Also, non-standard formatting or copy protection may not be readable by DOS/Windows or your PC controller. If they are just data disks that you are familiar with, this should not be an issue.

Professionals have more tools and experience to avoid such problems. So ask yourself what the value of your data is. Of course, if it is not that valuable, then doing this ones self can be a rewarding experience.

Also keep in mind there might be hobbyists in your area that might volunteer to help you for a little or no cost.


Top  Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 




Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

All views expressed in these forums are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of the BetaArchive site owner.

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Copyright © 2006-2019

 

Sitemap | XML | RSS