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 PostPost subject: Bill Gates - Windows History        Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:52 pm 
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My graphics teacher is trying to crack on that Bill Gates wrote Windows 1 while working at IBM (?), and won't hear otherwise. I know that Bill never worked for anyone except himself when in business, but Microsoft worked alongside IBM during development of MS-DOS/PC-DOS and of OS/2. Am I correct, that those were the closest Bill ever came to working for IBM?

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 PostPost subject: MS history        Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:35 pm 
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He bought the license /sourcecode from IBMs DOS, so he could rewrite/rebrand it as MS DOS, make this compatible with IBM PCs and re-sell the OS to anyone interested.

That is basically how MS started the OS business, long long before Windows was ever created or thought of being an standalone OS.

MS financial success was MSDOS and Word/Excel for DOS ( and for the Mac later ).


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 PostPost subject: Re: MS history        Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:26 pm 
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Smartie77 wrote:
He bought the license /sourcecode from IBMs DOS, so he could rewrite/rebrand it as MS DOS, make this compatible with IBM PCs and re-sell the OS to anyone interested.

That is basically how MS started the OS business, long long before Windows was ever created or thought of being an standalone OS.

MS financial success was MSDOS and Word/Excel for DOS ( and for the Mac later ).


Actually that's not entirely true, the DOS he bought was QDOS which was written by a guy called Tim Paterson (and based on certain attributes of CP/M, so I hear), then he licenced that to IBM and renamed it MSDOS.


Edit: Oh, and as for the OP, no, Gates never worked directly for IBM, he just licenced them software (AFAIK).


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 PostPost subject: Re: MS history        Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:31 pm 
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Actually that's not entirely true, the DOS he bought was QDOS which was written by a guy called Tim Paterson (and based on certain attributes of CP/M, so I hear), then he licenced that to IBM and renamed it MSDOS.

There was also PC-DOS, a rebranded (up to 6.0 IIRC) version of MS-DOS which was marketed separately.


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So I'm right - BIll Gates never actually worked for IBM, but only ever worked collaboratively to develop DOS and OS/2?

(I'm pretty sure I am, I just wanted to make sure, so I can print this out and give it to my teacher :))

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just watch that movie about him/and others

Pirates of the silicon valley?


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:51 am 
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merty wrote:
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just watch that movie about him/and others

Pirates of the silicon valley?


its funny but just 1/2 true ;)


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Anyone seen the movie antitrust?
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Anyone seen the movie antitrust?
Good movie.


I heard about it but I haven't watched it yet.
I watched Pirates of the Silicon Valley about a year ago and I enjoyed it.


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antitrust (in germany "startup") is one of the best films ive ever seen :D


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The last operating system that Gates had a lot to do with is Basic for the tandy 1000.

PC-DOS was written largely by IBM and Microsoft, MS-DOS is a clone of PC-DOS, the treaty between MS and IBM allowed MS to sell its version of PC-DOS to other companies.

Windows was written variously by Microsoft and IBM. The progman fileman interface of Windows 3.x is based on PMEXEC and PMFILE from OS/2 1.2. The PM Shell was written by IBM UK. Likewise, the Microsoft editors and interface descend from early versions of E.

Microsoft did cobble things together, including dosx, the key breakthroug to the 640K barrier.

Windows NT was based on code jointly worked with IBM, the plan was that microsoft was going to release it as OS/2. It became OS/2 NT and then NT. Much of the underlying kernel was written by ex-Digital engineers, to the extent that Microsoft paid some 9 million dollars to digital for potential breach of rights.

The explorer shell is based on the OS/2 PM Shell, with some changes.


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