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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:26 pm 
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They changed the why how applications/drivers see what version of Windows it is. We see 10.0 in Win10 and 6.3 in Win8.1. Drivers see the same platform.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:11 pm 
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ArsTechnica has a great article explaining how compatibility will likely not be affected.
http://arstechnica.com/information-tech ... ably-work/

The gist of it, if a program doesn't specify any OS target level (via manifest file) it gets told Vista, otherwise it'll get the features of the OS it states it wants to work with.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:43 pm 
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Great article indeed


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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:05 am 
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Goodbye, Start screen.

I hope that those who complained are satisfied. Not only do they get their Start menu back but they have to ruin the experience for the rest of us.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:38 am 
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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:33 pm 
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then stay on w8

I must say that your response is not a very nice one. You know that what you stated is not a viable option, particularly since I believe that Microsoft will require Windows 8.1 users to upgrade to Windows 10 in order to receive support (in a manner similar to the transition from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1).

Not that I am disliking the Start menu or other changes, but I would love for the Start screen to be kept as an option. Microsoft's over-a-decade-long realization for a full screen Start experience was finally realized in Windows 8, and by the time Windows 8.1 was released, it offered many advantages over the Start menu.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:11 pm 
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Stop complaining and deal with it. The start screen is stupid and useless on a non-touch computer. If you love the start screen so much then sell your non-touch device and buy a stupid touch device like a peasant.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:23 pm 
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You're obnoxious. If someone likes the start screen the let them use it, it's not like you have to use it as well.

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Stop complaining and deal with it. The start screen is stupid and useless on a non-touch computer. If you love the start screen so much then sell your non-touch device and buy a stupid touch device like a peasant.

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I'm not sure what I did to elicit such a venomous response from you.

The feature is not stupid or useless to me. Even if you don't like it, it is nice to have for those who do prefer it. Also, I don't feel that it is stupid or useless on a non-touch device, particularly since it offers the following that the Start menu lacked:

Application categorization based on application attributes, such as Name, Date Installed, Frequency of Use, and Category.
Customizable colors, patterns and/or accents.
Live Tiles.
Microsoft Account integration, including the option to sync Start screen layout and preferences.
"Newly installed" application improvements. Unlike the Start menu, the Start screen states the exact number of newly installed applications.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:39 pm 
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Maza wrote:
*start screen stuff*


It's as easy as not using Windows 10.

Those who don't like Windows 8 don't have to upgrade to it. You don't have to upgrade to Windows 10.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:10 pm 
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InsertGoodNameHere wrote:

It's as easy as not using Windows 10.

Those who don't like Windows 8 don't have to upgrade to it. You don't have to upgrade to Windows 10.

In my response to wasabilee I stated that this would not be a viable option.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:19 pm 
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Maza - How?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:35 pm 
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Maza - How?

Because if one remains on Windows 8.1, he or she will most likely be required to upgrade to Windows 10 in order to receive support, including security updates. Recall that Windows 8 users are required to upgrade to Windows 8.1 to receive support.

http://support2.microsoft.com/lifecycle ... =Windows+8

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:41 pm 
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Maza wrote:
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Maza - How?

Because if one remains on Windows 8.1, he or she will most likely be required to upgrade to Windows 10 in order to receive support, including security updates. Recall that Windows 8 users are required to upgrade to Windows 8.1 to receive support.

http://support2.microsoft.com/lifecycle ... =Windows+8


Yes, but Windows 10 is a new OS, 8 and 8.1 are almost the same.

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The start screen is still in W10.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:13 am 
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Yes, but Windows 10 is a new OS, 8 and 8.1 are almost the same.

I suppose we'll have to wait and see then.
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The start screen is still in W10.

Not by default in the latest publicly released build, 9926. It has to be enabled via the registry.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Will Windows 10 be a good operating system?        Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:46 am 
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I'm going to get a fair bit of hate for this, but I'm OK with the start screen. Most of the time I'm in a web browser or other desktop apps anyway, so I don't mind it.

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I think the W8/8.1 Start Screen is gonna be missing from the RTM and replaced by the "Hybrid" start menu, that is full screen in tablet mode.

Personally I prefer the old solution, with 2 separate GUI (ModernUI and classic desktop coexisting), as they are perfect for their respective purpose (tablet mode and desktop mode) while the hybrid solution isn't as good as either of them in a specific environment.

The only thing I like is that we can run Modern apps in a desktop window, but they could have done it easily in Windows 8.1 already if they wanted.


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Uncle Scrooge wrote:
I think the W8/8.1 Start Screen is gonna be missing from the RTM and replaced by the "Hybrid" start menu, that is full screen in tablet mode.

Personally I prefer the old solution, with 2 separate GUI (ModernUI and classic desktop coexisting), as they are perfect for their respective purpose (tablet mode and desktop mode) while the hybrid solution isn't as good as either of them in a specific environment.

The only thing I like is that we can run Modern apps in a desktop window, but they could have done it easily in Windows 8.1 already if they wanted.

That seems to be what will happen, unfortunately. I have already left feedback at the uservoice website, e-mail, and a certain social media platform but so far I have received no response. Of course the company disregards feedback that is not in alignment with its interests or goals.

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I think Windows 10 will be good OS.
It takes best parts from 7 and 8, has nice features like cortana and even the new browser.


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I think Windows 10 will be good OS.
It takes best parts from 7 and 8, has nice features like cortana and even the new browser.

I think Windows 10 takes the best parts from Windows 8 and turns them into a joke.

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I am very happy using Windows 8.1 but have high hopes for Windows 10. As a desktop Touchscreen user (I have a Dell S2340T) I think they won't take risks in making something groundbreaking but they will try to give us an experience as least as the one we already have while using 8/8.1 There are still compatibility issues with some software that just don't like Windows 7 and up (e.g. Shadow of Destiny / Shadow of Memories) so maybe our only hope will be to try running them through a VM of an old OS and see if they work that way because for Windows 10 to be good, more compatibility options are still needed to be achieved.


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I think Windows 10 will be good OS.
It takes best parts from 7 and 8, has nice features like cortana and even the new browser.

It takes the best parts of Windows 7 and 8 and tirns them into ugly features. Ugly ui, way too updated kernel, and worst of all, DWM is a process that runs under winlogon.exe and you can't kill it when winlogon.exe is running! That will eat up your RAM space if you are playing high quality games.

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I hope it turns out alright. I'm planning on taking advantage of the free upgrade offer from MS.


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