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 PostPost subject: I have a question regarding the contribution IBM zVM 4.4.0        Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:52 pm 
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Hi

I have a question regarding the contribution IBM zVM 4.4.0 (ADCD) (2003).

i can not msg the uploader himself as the name is not in the info file.

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 PostPost subject: Re: I have a question regarding the contribution IBM zVM 4.4        Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:25 am 
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Well? Why not post the question here in this thread then?

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 PostPost subject: Re: I have a question regarding the contribution IBM zVM 4.4        Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:53 pm 
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Darkstar wrote:
Well? Why not post the question here in this thread then?

Ok.

I asked a friend help who knows more about Mainframes than I do and he told me this:

He managed to IPL the system but soon realized that there is third-party software installed on it from CA Technologies , that software (VM:Secure, VM:Backup, etc.) has a deep impact on the disconnected virtual machines which are autologged at IPL.

At this point, He says the problem with VM:Secure, Neither He nor I know how to add a DASD to the system and create a personal CMS virtual machine
He says He usually needs DIRMAINT for this and it doesn't work here because VM:Secure handles DASDs and accounts.

He says there might also be some username password needed for this CA Technologies 3rd party software

I have the install notes printout if it helps

So frankly anything more to know of this system as it came would be much appreciated

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 PostPost subject: Re: I have a question regarding the contribution IBM zVM 4.4        Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:40 am 
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Hm. This might be a bit over my head ;-)

So you're trying to IPL this on a physical machine, not on Hercules or any other emulator? I admit my whole experience with mainframes comes from emulators, and I know VM:Secure only from the name. I guess you have already read through the docs that are available, so I fear I cannot help you here, sorry. This needs a zVM expert ;-)

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 PostPost subject: Re: I have a question regarding the contribution IBM zVM 4.4        Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:53 am 
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Darkstar wrote:
Hm. This might be a bit over my head ;-)

So you're trying to IPL this on a physical machine, not on Hercules or any other emulator? I admit my whole experience with mainframes comes from emulators, and I know VM:Secure only from the name. I guess you have already read through the docs that are available, so I fear I cannot help you here, sorry. This needs a zVM expert ;-)


Hi

it runs on Hercules yes .. sorry if i mispresented it

Yes those docs i saw there on the 3rd parties website..

So i guess if it ask any password or anything we are kind of lost here

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 PostPost subject: Re: I have a question regarding the contribution IBM zVM 4.4        Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:10 pm 
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VM:Secure is actually quite a bit nicer than dirmaint.

You can start off with a skeleton file, edit it to suit, then use vmsecure to add it to the directory. Log on as maint, and there might be some skeleton files on your a drive:

filelist * * a

You can also see what minidisks are on the system, which should give you an idea of what other users there might be. 99% of the time the password is the same as the user. You know what the IPL volumes are named, right? Something like 440RES, 440W01, etc. You can see what's on them like this:

vmsecure map 440RES

Then, you see who owns each minidisk. You can pull up the definition of the user like so:

vmsecure edit XXXX

where XXXX is the name of the user from the MAP output.

You can copy a user as a starting point like this:

vmsecure edit <newuser> <olduser>

If this is the system I've seen out in the wild before, there are ton of compression errors on the various volumes and fixing them is non-trivial.

Good luck, and have fun!


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