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 PostPost subject: Complete Newbie        Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:49 pm 
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Hi all,

I am a complete newbie to linux but i am egar to learn. I am looking at creating a server to share files, printers, http and ftp. Which distro would be best to use as a server? and how simple is it to share files and printers to a windows network?

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:57 pm 
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Well, a server generally requires active maintenance for security patches and such. For that reason, I would rule out Gentoo for you, being that it in itself is a lot of work keeping up to date.

Slackware is a good choice. Installation is a matter of picking what exactly you want from a menu and you go... aside from having to partition the drives yourself. Security is tight from the get go, and the layout is simple and practically unchanged since Slackware 1.0, so support and questions are more than readily available.


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If you are new to Linux I would choose something with a simplified installation method. Against my better judgement I will recommend Ubuntu Server Edition (http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUb ... veredition). Though I have never used it, I have used Ubuntu and it is simple and user friendly.

Personally I would choose Debian but it isn't as easy (though I believe their new installation method will allow you to choose a server installation) for beginners.


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Try mandrake or Suse, but it maybe better for you to just install Apache server...

If you want free server software you don't have to get Linux...

Ubuntu, is a good distro to learn on but it is horrid using it for a couple of reasons...
#1 Seems to have more junk preinstalled then any OS I have ever seen
#2 It doesn't perform better then Windows, even if you do things like compile the kernel...

When you are choosing a distro to actually use, I would strongly reccomend either Gentoo or Arch, because it is possible to make them perform faster then Windows...

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I'd also go for Arch or Debian Etch. Both aren't ridicolously easy to set up (but there's good documentation for both) but are suited well for a server. Debian Etch, the current stable release, should be your choice if you go the Debian route. The documentation will get you started quickly and flawlessly (and there's a GUI installer available optionally), and Debian is a very stable distro with focus on security. Maintenance is required, but straightforward (i.e. updating a Debian system is a matter of entering two commands, the rest is done automatically; and so is installing new packages.)

I'd not recommend Mandrake, SUSE or any other of "those" distros as my impression is they seem to be optimised for general-purpose desktop usage and thus contain much stuff you won't need on a server. I generally don't like Ubuntu, but you may want to give Ubuntu Server a go although Debian Etch which my vote goes to isn't much harder to set up and administer. Keep in mind Ubuntu Server will not come with a GUI, administration will be done from the CLI. Same will be for a "server" installation of any other distro though, as GUIs are not required to manage the system. If you want to be able to manage from a browser-based interface, have a look at Webmin.


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Thanks for all your recommendations, i will look into them however..

I have been looking at CentOS and Fedora as these are used by professional data centres, does anyone have experience with these distros? if so are they any good?

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CentOS and Fedora are closely related to each other, Fedora is designed to be a community desktop distro, CentOS is a recompile of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, thus, I'd prefer it to Fedora. I haven't used any of them for an extended period of time personally (I've only used RedHat/Fedora briefly), but I've heard CentOS is very stable as well, has a fast package management system (RPM-based) and is used by a few commercial web hosters. Feel free to try it, it's designed to be a server from the start.


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FreeBSD or Darwin :)


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FreeBSD or Darwin :)

Not to discourage their use here, but the thread starter asked for a Linux distro :) Both *BSD and Darwin are suited well for use as a server, though.


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The Gentoo Wiki is a great source of information, even if you're not using Gentoo.

Oh, congratulations! :D


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Thanks for all your recommendations, i will look into them however..

I have been looking at CentOS and Fedora as these are used by professional data centres, does anyone have experience with these distros? if so are they any good?


I have yet to see anybody use CentOS, but Red Hat wasn't a bad server operating system.

I don't know many profesional data centers; out of the two I have seen one was a Windows NT 4 and the other was running some kind of BSD.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:41 am 
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i found a prty kul linux, calld puppy linux, im thnkn about pttng it on my lptop, it mite b gud 4 u 2?

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Kelsey24 wrote:
i found a prty kul linux, calld puppy linux, im thnkn about pttng it on my lptop, it mite b gud 4 u 2?


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On the topic, Puppy Linux is nice and fast, but it introduces some non-standard behaviour (i.e. standad login as root(!)), thus I wouldn't recommend it as a server OS.


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empireum wrote:
On the topic, Puppy Linux is nice and fast, but it introduces some non-standard behaviour (i.e. standad login as root(!)), thus I wouldn't recommend it as a server OS.

If it defaults to root login, I wouldn't recommend it at all. That was one of the main criticisms early Linspire (then Lindows) versions suffered from.


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If it defaults to root login, I wouldn't recommend it at all. That was one of the main criticisms early Linspire (then Lindows) versions suffered from.

It does, that's why I'm a bit sceptic. Additionally, it uses a proprietary way of managing software and seems to have some other customization built in.


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