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 PostPost subject: Wubi- Safe linux install... Minus physical installations!!!!        Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:17 am 
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check out wubi!
http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuset ... index.html

it allows you "virtually" install ubuntu on a virtual hard drive (like vmware)
however unlike vmware, it actually appears as a second boot option, so you can multiboot without messing with partitions, formating and etc.
and if you don't like it you can just uninstall the wubi ubuntu like any other application.

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Works with XP and 2000
Frequently the wubi installer doesn't make a "good" hard drive. You'll know the drive isn't good when you boot into ubuntu for the first time and the installer gets stuck at 33% for longer then 5 minutes. If you get that, tell here and I'll post a "good" virtual drive...
the wifi sometimes doesn't accept the key.
if you want to install with a local image, you'll need to put the ISO in the same directory as the wubi .exe
wubi IS NOT the ubuntu OS. its just the virtual thingy
Wubi is a BETA (hint hint) so it's buggy... but if your on betaarchive, that probably wont be much of a biggy.

IMHO you should try getting Ubuntu Studio (ubuntustudio.org)
download the ISO, place in the same diretory as Wubi, run wubi, click the settings button and select Ubuntu Studio.

if anyone wants I can try and find a place to upload a stock install of Ubuntu Studio... then you just download and replace your virtual drive... can't upload to the Betaarchive server as its probably over 15 GB...

anyway, its a good thing to try.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:27 am 
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As far as I see, this is using loop devices for the file systems... Keep in mind that there'll usually be a performance hit due to that. BeOS 5 Personal Edition used the same approach, by the way.

EDIT: And for Linux users wanting to safely try out the new *Ubuntu version without risking their existing install, there's Lubi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=441918


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:57 am 
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loop devices?

I didn't notice any performance difference from the Wubi Ubuntu Studio compared to an "actual" installation of Ubuntu Studio...

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 8:01 am 
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Yes, it uses loop devices.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:19 pm 
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How does this looping device work?

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:39 pm 
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A file system/disk image stored in a file is hooked up to the loop device (/dev/loop0 is the first on Linux) and this device is then mounted and treated like a regular hard disk with partitions.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:31 pm 
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well regardless its fast as... make that faster then XP.... and apperently its easy to remove.... though as of now, I'd prefer to remove XP on that test machine...

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