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So... I wanna get into the whole dual-booting thing. I know that what I want to do is use Vista for gaming, and a secondary boot for using media, and surfing the web (and all kinds of network stuff e.g. mail.)

The questions I am asking are:

1. How do I dual boot?
2. What do you suggest I use for the things listed above?

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Well it depends on what you want to dual boot with. If you want to dual boot with Windows 7, simply create a new partition and install away. If you want to dual boot with an older operating system, such as XP - or Linux, it'll be a little bit more difficult, as the older boot loader will be incompatible with booting Vista, and you'll need to repair Windows Vista's bootloader, which can be a tricky process. The rule of thumb is to always install the newest operating system last.


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Well it depends on what you want to dual boot with. If you want to dual boot with Windows 7, simply create a new partition and install away. If you want to dual boot with an older operating system, such as XP - or Linux, it'll be a little bit more difficult, as the older boot loader will be incompatible with booting Vista, and you'll need to repair Windows Vista's bootloader, which can be a tricky process. The rule of thumb is to always install the newest operating system last.


Ideally, I want a decent looking system that runs FAST. Speed is the most important thing here... I want high speed browsing and file-browsing. I don't know if Win7 is built for speed or to look nice.

Ideal attributes for another OS:

1. High speed file-browsing and file access
2. Generally high speed operating system
3. Lightweight
4. Looks nice (preferably dark)

Optional:

5. Easy to maintain.

Any come to mind?

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Depends on your system. Windows 7 will suite your needs unless you have a rather old computer - it's a very fast operating system. If you supply your specs, I can suggest an operating system to you.


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Well it depends on what you want to dual boot with. If you want to dual boot with Windows 7, simply create a new partition and install away. If you want to dual boot with an older operating system, such as XP - or Linux, it'll be a little bit more difficult, as the older boot loader will be incompatible with booting Vista, and you'll need to repair Windows Vista's bootloader, which can be a tricky process. The rule of thumb is to always install the newest operating system last.


Ideally, I want a decent looking system that runs FAST. Speed is the most important thing here... I want high speed browsing and file-browsing. I don't know if Win7 is built for speed or to look nice.

Ideal attributes for another OS:

1. High speed file-browsing and file access
2. Generally high speed operating system
3. Lightweight
4. Looks nice (preferably dark)

Optional:

5. Easy to maintain.

Any come to mind?

Sounds like it's Linux time....
Linux is:
Lightweight
Easy to maintain
High speed, mostly...
The only think with Linux is that it is kinda hard to use and/or to install software that you want/need...
I recommend having a look anyway, it's just getting the right distribution of it.
You can easily find one you want here:http://www.linux.org/dist/
Just scroll down and enter whatyou want in to the search, it's easy to find one that is specialised to pretty much your needs, if you want t good looking one and is Dark then look for one that says it comes with KDE 4.0, I think that has a black taskbar and it is highly customisable.

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No way, go Windows 7 with that. Windows 7 will sing on that machine. Plus, it's too hard to set up a dual boot system with linux - trust me, for a novice, you don't want to go down that road.


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Windows 7 is pretty fast and fancy + I recommend it. If you need something really light weight, try XP.

I don't understand why you use 32 bit since you have 4 GB of memory and 32 bit os can't use it all. Also, 32 bit is x86 not x32.

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OK, which release of 7?

I have the 7057 build, and it's the only one I can get for a while. I heard it was the most stable. Also, I use 32-bit for compatibility purposes. (Meh...) If you can suggest a better one, then I can TRY and get hold of it.

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7077. It's more stable and some bugs in 7057 are fixed in 7077. Also, 7077 is in the ftp.

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7077. It's more stable and some bugs in 7057 are fixed in 7077. Also, 7077 is in the ftp.

Yes, build 7077 is more stable. Build 7068 is very buggy.

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7077?

OK, but is 7057 ok in the meantime? Also, how would I go about un-installing it when I get 7077?

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Think a while about installing Linux. Your attributes meets Debian (although I don't know what you mean with "looks nice", Debian is rather ascetic, if you want effects like Aero and better, you'll have to install compiz-fusion, but it's not a big deal).
EDIT: You could take this test: http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php and install what's the best for you.


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If you have Vista installed on the C drive and Windows 7 on D or something other then C then the BOOT directory is on C, so just delete or format the D partition and edit the bootmanager (with an GUI program (downloadable) or the BCDEDIT.exe program (text only)).

and then the Windows 7 has been removed from you're system.

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I'd also reccomend 7077. I've had it running for a little bit and never had any problems. Then again, I've never had any problems with any of the builds I've ran. Whichever one you van get your hands on, go with that one.


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OK, which release of 7?

I have the 7057 build, and it's the only one I can get for a while. I heard it was the most stable. Also, I use 32-bit for compatibility purposes. (Meh...) If you can suggest a better one, then I can TRY and get hold of it.

Actually, Live Mesh is 64 bit compatible.

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OK, which release of 7?

I have the 7057 build, and it's the only one I can get for a while. I heard it was the most stable. Also, I use 32-bit for compatibility purposes. (Meh...) If you can suggest a better one, then I can TRY and get hold of it.

Actually, Live Mesh is 64 bit compatible.
Uhm. Where did he say anything about Live Mesh? O.o


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What is Live Mesh?


Jeez, doesn't anyone know what Google is these days?

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EDIT: You could take this test: http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php and install what's the best for you.


I took that zegenie test. Linux Mint and Ubuntu are currently winning me over, though I am starting to lean towards Ubuntu. What I must know is if it is a lightweight operating system that will run fast. I already know that it is OK for Firefox, and that's the main thing. But is it reliable? Does it have any noticeable bugs?

In the mean time, I'm gonna install Win7 and see if that can dissuade me from Ubuntu.

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Jeez, doesn't anyone know what Google is these days?


Better yet, visit the official site: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Live+Mesh.

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Though Ubuntu is much more common, I'd rather suggest Mint than Ubuntu. It's because Mint contains closed software which is installable to Ubuntu, but in Mint it's included in installation itself (codecs, Java and more clickable configurators). That makes Mint much simpler for a newbie. On top of that Mint is fully compatible with Ubuntu.


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Well... I went ahead and installed Win7, build 7057(mattarnster is getting me build 7077 tomorrow, hopefully). I have to say, I'm pretty damn impressed. Runs like a demon.

Can I run every single file that is in my Vista partition from Win7? Can I run every executable, too? If so, I might just downright completely switch to Win7.

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Well... I went ahead and installed Win7, build 7057(mattarnster is getting me build 7077 tomorrow, hopefully). I have to say, I'm pretty damn impressed. Runs like a demon.

Can I run every single file that is in my Vista partition from Win7? Can I run every executable, too? If so, I might just downright completely switch to Win7.


you will be able to run most of everything though you may find customizations missing, I would recommend installing the programs in windows 7 though.


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