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 PostPost subject: NT builds for non-x86        Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:26 am 
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I found that people concentrate on x86 builds and recently QEMU has a incomplete emulation of ARC/MIPS Jazz architecture.

Here is a screenshot of 2nd stage installation BSOD of NT 3.1 Build 388.
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Very nice,

Have you gotten any MIPS OS to work?

So far the only one I have gotten to work is debian...

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:45 am 
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Very nice,

Have you gotten any MIPS OS to work?

So far the only one I have gotten to work is debian...

BSDs are more likely to work.

BTW, MIPS build number is always higher(future builds?) than x86 builds.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:00 am 
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It's actually build 404 you're installing there...

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It's actually build 404 you're installing there...

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Maybe or may not be.

I have NT 4.0 build 1375 checked but it shows 1381 in the build.
Notice to "INIT" line.
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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:13 am 
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I have NT 4.0 build 1375 checked but it shows 1381 in the build.
Notice to "INIT" line.
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Then you don't have build 1375 after all...
The problem with most of the early NT builds on the servers, is the fact that
a lot of them have been mis-labelled because people don't check the build
version by checking the KRNL files...
See for yourself on your build 1375, & you'll see that the file
version on the ntoskrnl.exe file is in fact file version 1381...
The same thing happens with the chicago builds, people check
the file version of the setup.exe, & label it as such, which is why
we have build 122 getting around as 117,
NT 404 as 388, a few NT5 builds, etc etc...


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Can you share MIPS_BIOS.bin? I need it for my MIPS Drivers.


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KenOath wrote:
roytam1 wrote:
I have NT 4.0 build 1375 checked but it shows 1381 in the build.
Notice to "INIT" line.
>image snipped<

Then you don't have build 1375 after all...
The problem with most of the early NT builds on the servers, is the fact that
a lot of them have been mis-labelled because people don't check the build
version by checking the KRNL files...
See for yourself on your build 1375, & you'll see that the file
version on the ntoskrnl.exe file is in fact file version 1381...
The same thing happens with the chicago builds, people check
the file version of the setup.exe, & label it as such, which is why
we have build 122 getting around as 117,
NT 404 as 388, a few NT5 builds, etc etc...
Hmm, it make senses. I should cleanup my collections.


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Can you share the QEMU Configuration. Files and commands.


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Can you share MIPS_BIOS.bin? I need it for my MIPS Drivers.
Which machine and endian you need?
I have MIPS Magnum R4000 big endian (for RISC/os) and little endian (for NT) only.
I'm seeking for Acer PICA-61 and NEC RISCstation firmware, drivers and hals.


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Can you share the QEMU Configuration. Files and commands.

You can get WIP QEMU-mips64el from here.
for the firmware you can get it here, but be sure read the LICENSE before you download.


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Thanks!
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 PostPost subject: Re: NT builds for non-x86        Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:32 pm 
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Sorry for bump an old thread but I have news about NT on MIPS platform.

As in Herve's new release of QEMU-system_mips64el, NT 4.0 SP1 for MIPS can be installed.

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fig.1: Stage 2 completed.

As hardware cursor is not implemented, the cursor is not shown right now, you have to change the cursor scheme for showing the mouse cursor.

And the G364 frame buffer is having bugs, colors are not shown correctly.
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fig.2: login screen.

Due to the MIPS JAZZ architecture, you can't change the resolution from windows, you have to change it in firmware setting.
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fig.3: resolution test.

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fig.4: System about dialog.

And yes, there's Internet Explorer for NT MIPS.
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fig.5: Internet Explorer 2.0


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roytam1 wrote:
Windows OCManage wrote:
Can you share MIPS_BIOS.bin? I need it for my MIPS Drivers.
Which machine and endian you need?
I have MIPS Magnum R4000 big endian (for RISC/os) and little endian (for NT) only.
I'm seeking for Acer PICA-61 and NEC RISCstation firmware, drivers and hals.
You can get WIP QEMU-mips64el from here.
for the firmware you can get it here, but be sure read the LICENSE before you download.

Little Endian.

What machine and CPU did you use roytam1? R4000 and Magnum?


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roytam1 wrote:
Windows OCManage wrote:
Can you share MIPS_BIOS.bin? I need it for my MIPS Drivers.
Which machine and endian you need?
I have MIPS Magnum R4000 big endian (for RISC/os) and little endian (for NT) only.
I'm seeking for Acer PICA-61 and NEC RISCstation firmware, drivers and hals.
You can get WIP QEMU-mips64el from here.
for the firmware you can get it here, but be sure read the LICENSE before you download.

Little Endian.

What machine and CPU did you use roytam1? R4000 and Magnum?

Yes. R4000 and Magnum. Development of emulating PICA61 platform has been suspended.


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EDIT: I got it!

Here are the instructions to install Windows NT 3.5 MIPS! (Assuming that HDD has already been made) (I recommend reading this http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/libr ... 50074.aspx article first)
1. Download QEMU Mipsel64 from http://hpoussineau.free.fr/qemu/qemu-sy ... 64el-3.zip
2. Download and extract NTPROM.RAW from http://hpoussineau.free.fr/qemu/firmwar ... /setup.zip
3. Rename NTPROM.RAW to mipsel_bios.bin
4. Start QEMU with the options "qemu-system-mips64el.exe -M magnum -L . -hda {HDD} -cdrom {WINNT_MIPS_ISO}
5. If it boots, go to the setup option.
6. Select "Set Default Configuration".
7. Set Resolution that is appropriate.
8. Floppy Capacity is 3.5" 1.44MB, no second floppy
9. SCSI Bus number is 1.
10. Select Program to Run.
11. Type in "CD:\MIPS\ARCINST.EXE"
12. Make a partition
13. Make a small System Partition.
14. Use the rest of the disk for NT.
15. Reboot.
16. Select Program to Run.
17. Type in "CD:\MIPS\SETUPLDR"
It's pretty straightforward from there.


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 PostPost subject: Re: NT builds for non-x86        Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:27 am 
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EDIT: I got it!

Here are the instructions to install Windows NT 3.5 MIPS! (Assuming that HDD has already been made) (I recommend reading this http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/libr ... 50074.aspx article first)
1. Download QEMU Mipsel64 from http://hpoussineau.free.fr/qemu/qemu-sy ... 64el-3.zip
2. Download and extract NTPROM.RAW from http://hpoussineau.free.fr/qemu/firmwar ... /setup.zip
3. Rename NTPROM.RAW to mipsel_bios.bin
4. Start QEMU with the options "qemu-system-mips64el.exe -M magnum -L . -hda {HDD} -cdrom {WINNT_MIPS_ISO}
5. If it boots, go to the setup option.
6. Select "Set Default Configuration".
7. Set Resolution that is appropriate.
8. Floppy Capacity is 3.5" 1.44MB, no second floppy
9. SCSI Bus number is 1.
10. Select Program to Run.
11. Type in "CD:\MIPS\ARCINST.EXE"
12. Make a partition
13. Make a small System Partition.
14. Use the rest of the disk for NT.
15. Reboot.
16. Select Program to Run.
17. Type in "CD:\MIPS\SETUPLDR"
It's pretty straightforward from there.

That's right. I also get my NT 3.50 SP2 Japanese Edition working.
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Got NT4 SP1 running.
It starts up very slowly. I think it's the Jazzg364 driver. But how did you get NT 3.1 Build 404 running? The SGI ARC Multiboot Firmware says that CD:\Mips\Setupldr is a bad image in my NT iso.
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Got NT4 SP1 running.
It starts up very slowly. I think it's the Jazzg364 driver. But how did you get NT 3.1 Build 404 running? The SGI ARC Multiboot Firmware says that CD:\Mips\Setupldr is a bad image in my NT iso.
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NTs before 3.50 are still not supported at this moment.
My NT 3.51 Chinese Traditional Edition gets BSoD before 1st stage file copying, this issue still not fixed in this version.


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How did you do this then? Used Pica61?
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How did you do this then? Used Pica61?
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This uses Magnum. NT 3.1 in QEMU Magnum does 1st stage only, It won't go to 2nd stage and give BSoD instead.

using PICA61 is in the early development stage in 2007, which using IDE for connecting HD and CDROM but not using NCR 53C94.
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Mind sharing the Aug. '07 Pica61 firmware? The Oct '08 firmware hates me.


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Mind sharing the Aug. '07 Pica61 firmware? The Oct '08 firmware hates me.

but you need QEMU-MIPS cvs '07 with Jazz patch too, QEMU-MIPS is using SCSI to connect devices now and that firmware requires IDE connection. Herve suspends developing PICA61 emulation now.

and QEMU-MIPS in '07 is very incomplete so it is not possible booting any NT/MIPS with -m pica61 in any moment.

but the most important point is that I don't keep that QEMU-MIPS now. Having the reimplemented PICA61 firmware '07 is no use.


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 PostPost subject: Re: NT builds for non-x86        Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:04 am 
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just a footnote for PICA61:
the last QEMU PICA61 revision that still uses IDE is r4176, you can try building this revision as I lost the connection to my build slave, I can't test it myself at this moment.


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