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Do you thing will Microsoft ever release Windows source code?
After Releases next OS. 5%  5%  [ 3 ]
After Releases a new kernel from Scratch. (But is still on Windows) 10%  10%  [ 6 ]
Never. It's like taking my car to go to sun. 85%  85%  [ 51 ]
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 PostPost subject: Windows Source Code        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:11 am 
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Do you thing will Microsoft ever release Windows source code?
I mean EVER, after 10 or more years.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:25 am 
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I'll go with the last option. If you mean the entire source code then I guess it's unlikely that Microsoft would ever release such thing..


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NEVER going to happen, officially that is.

Be more easier to take your car to the sun actually. (And more possible)

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:42 am 
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Actually they do release their some code in the Driver Development Kits/Windows Driver Kit and Windows SDKs.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:20 am 
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wouldn't it be bad if they released the source code without cleaning it up?

take some bits from the leaked Win2K source for example --

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 *       !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 *       !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 * !!!!!!!IF YOU CHANGE TABS TO SPACES, YOU WILL BE KILLED!!!!!!!
 *       !!!!!!!!!!!!!!DOING SO FUCKS THE BUILD PROCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 *       !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 *       !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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private\genx\shell\inc\prsht.w:
// we are such morons. Wiz97 underwent a redesign between IE4 and IE5



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I think nobody knows the fact XP onwords is under shared source license. You can get limited rights to the sources, for a fee, to study but not copy.

So yes, it's already happened.


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I remember sifting threw that code when it leaked out and looking at all the comments, some of them are pretty funny.


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Microsoft source code is both copyrighted and protected as a trade secret. As such, it is illegal to post it, make it available to others, download it or use it.


http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/pres ... ource.mspx


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:23 am 
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LOL

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* The magnitude of this hack compares favorably with that of the national debt.


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Well, sometimes, when I have written programs, I have put swear words as comments. When I looked at the source code, I saw something about appwiz.cpl giving something the jeebies! :D

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We may get something from the development os (Singularity).

Yet, remember when Apple called their OS OpenSource? I think at best MS will lie about their product 8-)

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Frozenport wrote:
We may get something from the development os (Singularity).


The whole source of Singularity has been released by Microsoft already in March this year....

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:06 pm 
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And?? Where can I get it?


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http://www.codeplex.com/singularity

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I heard as well that in October 2000, the source code for MS-DOS got leaked.

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i have part of the Windows 2000 Source code somewhere on my hard drives
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So do I! If I could thank the person who leaked it....

I know it wouldn't be possible to rebuild Windows 2000 with it because not all of the code was leaked, but would it be possible to rebuild things like the cpls or explorer, which is exactly what Microsoft don't want us to do?

Even if it is not possible to do that, it is still amusing to look through the code to find funny comments.

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I think when Windows era is finished, and new OS's are released, it will be a huge leak (or an official "leak"). With the computers after 20 or 25 years, there will be no point of keeping the source code secret. I'm downloading now the NT4 and 2000 leaked code to examine it a little.


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Hacker?pcs wrote:
I think when Windows era is finished, and new OS's are released, it will be a huge leak (or an official "leak"). With the computers after 20 or 25 years, there will be no point of keeping the source code secret. I'm downloading now the NT4 and 2000 leaked code to examine it a little.


I don't think Microsoft will ever release the source. Under your theory, they would have released the source for DOS at least by now. They haven't.

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Hacker?pcs wrote:
I think when Windows era is finished, and new OS's are released, it will be a huge leak (or an official "leak"). With the computers after 20 or 25 years, there will be no point of keeping the source code secret. I'm downloading now the NT4 and 2000 leaked code to examine it a little.


I don't think Microsoft will ever release the source. Under your theory, they would have released the source for DOS at least by now. They haven't.


Another thing to keep in mind is the distinction between wanting to and being able to. Just look at OpenSolaris for example, they still haven't been able to open up 100% of their code because of licensing issues, copyright issues and so on. Let's pretend MS was looking to release the source for DOS, they'd have to track down tons of copyright holders and last but not least Gary Kildall who they bought the original DOS from. I imagine getting his permission could be tricky as he's been dead for quite some time.


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