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 PostPost subject: Windows 7 builds        Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:31 pm 
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The only release I've noticed is build 6519. However, I heard of another build throughout various websites, coupled with screenshots (6574). I've never seen it upon torrent sites, nor have I seen any other builds since.

I don't understand however, the lack of Windows 7 public participation. Windows Vista had great success with the development tied with Windows users. However, Windows 7 is very quiet...

What do you think of Microsoft closing the gates on Windows 7 builds, featured with few releases (Well, it'd be two releases if Beta 1 is to be released mid-December)/are there any other builds I'm unaware of?

Also, I'm considering to install Windows 7 build 6519. However, after hearing upon the activation killer; Windows suicide, I'm unsure as to how it would be removed. Are there any reliable methods for eliminating this issue to ensure that the operating system isn't timebombed?


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There is no lack of public participation. What you are referring to was during the Beta 1- RC era of Vista development, Windows 7 isn't anywere near that yet.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:43 pm 
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afaik,(edit: I BET)microsoft don't relaese any win.7 before it is beta1

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6.1.6410.0.fbl_refactor_dev(jschwart).070409-1035
6.1.6415.0.debuggers(dbg).070404-1234
6.1.6418.0.debuggers(dbg).070404-1255
6.1.6429.?.fbl_multimedia_media.070514-1730
6.1.6459.1.fbl_shell_dex.070826-1730
6.1.6475.1.fbl_wlk_dtmse_11000.071108-1226
6.1.6499.1.fbl_security_bugfix(sepbld-s).071120-0135

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6.1.6519.1.winmain.071220-1525
6.1.6522.0.winmain.071223-1309
6.1.6547.1
6.1.6568.1.winmain.080312-1858
6.1.6574.1.winmain.080420

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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 7 builds        Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:45 pm 
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livelonger87 wrote:
The only release I've noticed is build 6519. However, I heard of another build throughout various websites, coupled with screenshots (6574). I've never seen it upon torrent sites, nor have I seen any other builds since.

I don't understand however, the lack of Windows 7 public participation. Windows Vista had great success with the development tied with Windows users. However, Windows 7 is very quiet...

What do you think of Microsoft closing the gates on Windows 7 builds, featured with few releases (Well, it'd be two releases if Beta 1 is to be released mid-December)/are there any other builds I'm unaware of?

Also, I'm considering to install Windows 7 build 6519. However, after hearing upon the activation killer; Windows suicide, I'm unsure as to how it would be removed. Are there any reliable methods for eliminating this issue to ensure that the operating system isn't timebombed?


well they are but they dont work.
that build is expired and as for Windows Longhorn it was the same at one point before the beta 1 was made public we had to stay with 2004 winhec build for a long time.

be glad that m1 was leaked because on the Longhorn era we only got it at m3

is not lack of participation. is just the beta program is not near.
and add to that the scene play by many people that just love to show it but dont share it.

BTW th methods of how to by pass activation and cracking is WAREZ and illegal.

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jabster wrote:
There is no lack of public participation. What you are referring to was during the Beta 1- RC era of Vista development, Windows 7 isn't anywere near that yet.


Um, it's not that far away. The first 'public' distribution will be at the PDC in October, where they'll be distributing an M3 build most likely (Build 6780 is currently rumoured).

Microsoft are then talking Beta 1 in around December time, and the next year will be the public beta and RC testing before a 2009 release. On the current schedule.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:13 pm 
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so by next summer the RC's should start rolling out?


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 PostPost subject: Re: Windows 7 builds        Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:20 pm 
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livelonger87 wrote:
Windows Vista had great success with the development tied with Windows users.


Actually, most of the public involvement in Longhorn/Vista ended up giving it possibly the worst reputation that any version of Windows has had to date, aside from maybe Windows ME.


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To futher extend QuiescentWonder's point,
Many new technologies in Vista are currently underutilized
They made a lot of developers scared of adopting their new platform, especially after MS scaped Longhorn.

Lastly, they have little reason to release Windows 7 to beta testers; Vista was not only dramatic but different. Things like Direct X 10 only ran on Vista, thus MS had to release a beta so developers could start. As there is nothing new in Windows 7, MS has no reason to release anything.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:42 pm 
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Frozenport wrote:
To futher extend QuiescentWonder's point,
Many new technologies in Vista are currently underutilized
They made a lot of developers scared of adopting their new platform, especially after MS scaped Longhorn.

Lastly, they have little reason to release Windows 7 to beta testers; Vista was not only dramatic but different. Things like Direct X 10 only ran on Vista, thus MS had to release a beta so developers could start. As there is nothing new in Windows 7, MS has no reason to release anything.


They do have reason to distribute it - they distributed XP, but all XP is is Windows 2000 with lipstick. They always distribute betas! Anyway, they get bug reports, so they don't have to pay people to do it.


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motherboardlove wrote:
[ they distributed XP, but all XP is is Windows 2000 with lipstick.


Windows XP's kernel is mostly the same as Win2K but there are alot more features on XP then 2000, They introduced more drivers for newer hardware, added Remote Desktop, WiFi, CD Burning, Made it easier to network and made the login system more end user friendly, all of this needs losts of testing, go download an early whistler build someone had to fix these bugs and make these neat features stable. 7 is gonna just have more drivers, a new browser, and some other little features.

Despite that I'd download a Windows 7 Build the moment it leaks :D


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mewrox99 wrote:
motherboardlove wrote:
[ they distributed XP, but all XP is is Windows 2000 with lipstick.


Windows XP's kernel is mostly the same as Win2K but there are alot more features on XP then 2000, They introduced more drivers for newer hardware, added Remote Desktop, WiFi, CD Burning, Made it easier to network and made the login system more end user friendly, all of this needs losts of testing, go download an early whistler build someone had to fix these bugs and make these neat features stable. 7 is gonna just have more drivers, a new browser, and some other little features.

Despite that I'd download a Windows 7 Build the moment it leaks :D


From what I've read it's going to have enough new features to warrant an upgrade, IMO. Although I, like most of the community, haven't used anything newer than M1.


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