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 PostPost subject: Leftovers from old Windows versions        Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:05 pm 
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I made this thread after a discussion in another thread (viewtopic.php?f=60&t=35305).
Post every leftover from older versions you found in any "final" (also RCs are OK) Windows version (not betas except if they're something really interesting), and specify for everyone Windows version, build number and, if you know, and from what previous version/build it came from. PLEASE POST IMAGES TOO

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 PostPost subject: Re: Leftovers from old Windows versions        Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:09 pm 
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Windows XP-LH has ntimage.gif, a leftover from NT5.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Leftovers from old Windows versions        Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:07 pm 
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Windows XP-LH has ntimage.gif, a leftover from NT5.

Please post images too

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 PostPost subject: Re: Leftovers from old Windows versions        Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:34 pm 
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Zacchi4k wrote:
WindowsCollector2000 wrote:
Windows XP-LH has ntimage.gif, a leftover from NT5.

Please post images too

Here you go: viewtopic.php?f=61&t=34977&p=403488#p403488
Please, do not forget the Windows 3.1 regedit icon being kept until Threshold R2 build 10558! :D

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 PostPost subject: Re: Leftovers from old Windows versions        Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:43 am 
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Anyone brave enough to dig through system32 might know about this. Here's one leftover from Windows 9x. The Phone Dialer application. I don't see the purpose of it on Windows 7 but it's there. I have screenshots

On the left is Windows 7, On the right is Windows Me.
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And to prove that this is legit and I didn't pull a fast one:
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Here's one more thing for now. A leftover dialog from Internet Explorer versions 4-6. (Don't let the buttons fool you, This is Windows 7.)
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Later I'll see if there's any more leftovers on Windows Vista and 10.


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 PostPost subject: Re: Leftovers from old Windows versions        Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:38 am 
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Still present in 8.1

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 PostPost subject: Re: Leftovers from old Windows versions        Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:11 am 
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Some businesses still use the built-in fax services, which utilizes the underlying telephony services - which can utilize the phone dialer (it's part of that component of Windows). I'd wager a guess that if you install the telephony services on server 2016, you'd get the phone dialer app in system32.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Leftovers from old Windows versions        Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:55 am 
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From the XP topic:

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Opened my 2001 OEM XP installer in Bless and found this:

Code:
Microsoft Windows XP and Windows Whistler
; (c) 1994 - 2001 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.



There appears to be more

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0037e816
Microsoft Windows Codename Whistler Personal, Professional, Server, Advanced Server and Datacenter
; (c) 1994 - 2000 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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; Sample Unattended Setup Answer File
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; This file contains information about how to automate the installation
; or upgrade of Windows Codename Whistler so the
; Setup program runs without requiring user input.

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The Modem in your computer will not function properly under Microsoft Windows Whistler using the driver that is currently installed.

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D:\Whistler\usa\contextsensitive\Winnt32\DesktopSKUs\Per\Winnt32.rtf

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debugs all processes launched by debuggee........%.*s    for created processes.  This only works on Windows Whistler.

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acsremoved = "Whistler Server no longer supports Admission Control Service (ACS). Before upgrading, you must uninstall ACS."

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Setup has detected that Whistler beta 1 domain controllers were previously installed in this forest. Whister beta 2 domain controllers cannot coexist in the same forest as Whistler beta 1 domain controllers.

Demote all Whistler beta 1 domain controllers in this forest before upgrading to Whistler beta 2. An attempt to run both beta versions in a forest may cause loss of data.
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Microsoft Windows Whistler Blade Server

1d2a463c
system..Billboard: PaintStepsText failed to load bitmap.....RedCarpetWndClass...InfoStepsWnd_Class..BillBoardWnd_Class..BB_WhistlerStatus_Class



And in my SP3 Dell disc:
Code:
028cec36
InstallOnFuture9x



There were separate entries for 98 Gold, 98 SE and Me (regarding upgrading to XP), so Future 9x implies a possible successor to Me! Strange that the Optima disc had no such entry.


There were no Neptune, Odyssey or Triton entries. There were also no Vienna or Blackcomb entries in Windows 7 SP1 (Dell OEM) I'll check Windows 95 now.

EDIT: Here's Win95 (OSR 2.1):

Code:
009c38ac
Chicago Installer Stub

058dd105
Microsoft Corp. Chicago Beta

058e7f74
SNMP service only runs on NT Daytona and Chicago

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 PostPost subject: Re: Leftovers from old Windows versions        Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:45 am 
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Still present in 8.1

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It's also still present in Windows 10 build 10586:
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My Dimension 3000 with Windows 7 has a modem, so I ought to be able to use Phone Dialer to make calls just fine.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Leftovers from old Windows versions        Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:50 am 
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Some things I extracted from ntoskrnl.exe (already been mentioned in other threads)

Oh forgot to mention this is in Windows 7 by the way.

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in shell32.dll
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and in explorer.exe
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VALUE "OriginalFilename", "EXPLORER.EXE"

explorer was once capitalised? What is that left over from? Windows 95?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Leftovers from old Windows versions        Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:39 pm 
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If you go into the OOBE/images folder in Windows XP, you'll be able to find 2 Windows ME style box-motifs.

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They are called thanks8 and thanks10, C:\WINDOWS\system32\oobe\images, also that folder has my favorite music ^_^

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 PostPost subject: Re: Leftovers from old Windows versions        Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:57 am 
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Karzahni wrote:
Some things I extracted from ntoskrnl.exe (already been mentioned in other threads)

Oh forgot to mention this is in Windows 7 by the way.

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in shell32.dll
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and in explorer.exe
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VALUE "OriginalFilename", "EXPLORER.EXE"

explorer was once capitalised? What is that left over from? Windows 95?



I mentioned "ntoskrnl.exe" and "ntkrnlmp.exe" in the ME topic.

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I mentioned "ntoskrnl.exe" and "ntkrnlmp.exe" in the ME topic.


Indeed. Just thought I'd mention it for the sake of the thread. Did you check out everything in ntkrnlmp or is it worth me taking a look there?

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Back in the DAY (2004-6) there was a project on the OSBA forum that was a hodge-podge of all the leftovers from old beta versions of Windows, running on top of a windows 2000 or xp base. I don't recall the exact name of the project, since it was such a long time ago. It basically had all the old bitmaps, icons, and various other bits and pieces merged into a somewhat-working OS.

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Indeed. Just thought I'd mention it for the sake of the thread. Did you check out everything in ntkrnlmp or is it worth me taking a look there?


I fiddled around with the two files with Resource Hacker until I found the hibernation and non-ACPI resources.

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moricons.dll has some really old icons

I think its still around in Windows 10

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moricons.dll has some really old icons

I think its still around in Windows 10

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It's in 8.1 too, of course:

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The last 5 icons are from office 2000.

There's even a moricons.dll in the syswow64 folder(on x64 bit windows). Why did they keep it is beyond me. Also, until a TH2 build, regedit used the same icon it did in 3.1.

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MORICONS.DLL and all the icons here in TH2 for reference:
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