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Windows XP build 2416 on Acer TravelMate 2480

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:56 pm
by Moline
Is it possible to install Windows XP build 2416 on an Acer TravelMate 2480? I have the BIOS date set correctly, but every time I run it, it hangs at Setup is starting Windows Whistler. Any solutions?

Re: Windows XP build 2416 on Acer TravelMate 2480

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:12 pm
by JonathonWyble
Could it be due to the support those TravelMates might have with some early Windows XP builds? I'm no expert, but I know certain Whistler builds around 2419 can sometimes show problems with installation. But that kind of problem only happens to me when I don't have the BIOS set. Maybe it could be a problem with one of the setup files?

Re: Windows XP build 2416 on Acer TravelMate 2480

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:04 pm
by Moline
JonathonWyble wrote:Could it be due to the support those TravelMates might have with some early Windows XP builds? I'm no expert, but I know certain Whistler builds around 2419 can sometimes show problems with installation. But that kind of problem only happens to me when I don't have the BIOS set. Maybe it could be a problem with one of the setup files?
It's not a setup file as it works fine in a virtual machine with the correct date set, which is January 4th, 2001. Could be an issue with the computer then as both Windows 2000 and XP work for it.

Re: Windows XP build 2416 on Acer TravelMate 2480

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:32 pm
by JonathonWyble
Moline wrote:
JonathonWyble wrote:Could it be due to the support those TravelMates might have with some early Windows XP builds? I'm no expert, but I know certain Whistler builds around 2419 can sometimes show problems with installation. But that kind of problem only happens to me when I don't have the BIOS set. Maybe it could be a problem with one of the setup files?
It's not a setup file as it works fine in a virtual machine with the correct date set, which is January 4th, 2001. Could be an issue with the computer then as both Windows 2000 and XP work for it.
I think it could be an issue with your computer. Because some computers do tend to act a bit funky with some beta OSes, well, with a lot of exceptions.

Re: Windows XP build 2416 on Acer TravelMate 2480

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:21 am
by Moline
JonathonWyble wrote:
Moline wrote:
JonathonWyble wrote:Could it be due to the support those TravelMates might have with some early Windows XP builds? I'm no expert, but I know certain Whistler builds around 2419 can sometimes show problems with installation. But that kind of problem only happens to me when I don't have the BIOS set. Maybe it could be a problem with one of the setup files?
It's not a setup file as it works fine in a virtual machine with the correct date set, which is January 4th, 2001. Could be an issue with the computer then as both Windows 2000 and XP work for it.
I think it could be an issue with your computer. Because some computers do tend to act a bit funky with some beta OSes, well, with a lot of exceptions.
Ah. That would make sense.

Re: Windows XP build 2416 on Acer TravelMate 2480

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:48 am
by MCpillager12
Try upgrading from win2k.

Re: Windows XP build 2416 on Acer TravelMate 2480

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:54 am
by win32
You may also want to disable any extraneous devices (such as parallel ports) in the BIOS. Those have been known to hang Windows 2000 setup at that point on some newer boards (like X79 and newer though).

I also did experience a "setup is starting..." hang when trying to install build 2296 on a ThinkPad T60; I never did get to the bottom of that however.

Re: Windows XP build 2416 on Acer TravelMate 2480

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:00 pm
by Schneider616
TravelMate 2480 is around the Pentium M/Celeron M era, so it should still work.

win32 - tried a vanilla 2000 install on that T60? 2296 should install just fine on a i945 based machine (I know that as I had a desktop Gigabyte board with that chipset and 2296 installed successfully, and so did a vanilla 2000 SP4 install )

EDIT: My bad, the 2480 is around the same period as the T60. Try disabling Wi-Fi (as I found out it has a Wi-Fi card) and reducing the RAM to 512MB (I don't know of any DDR2 SODIMM stick smaller than that)

Re: Windows XP build 2416 on Acer TravelMate 2480

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:20 pm
by JonathonWyble
Schneider616 wrote:TravelMate 2480 is around the Pentium M/Celeron M era, so it should still work.
I did say that OS betas sometimes refuse to work well on actual hardware. I don't know why that is, but usually one would find ways for them to work on a real computer. Hence his TravelMate being made from the Windows XP era...

Re: Windows XP build 2416 on Acer TravelMate 2480

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:20 pm
by win32
win32 - tried a vanilla 2000 install on that T60? 2296 should install just fine on a i945 based machine (I know that as I had a desktop Gigabyte board with that chipset and 2296 installed successfully, and so did a vanilla 2000 SP4 install )
Yes, it works great, as does build 2419. Unfortunately I wiped my install USB between then and now so it will take awhile before I can get around to attempting to boot 2296 setup again, following my own recommendation.

Re: Windows XP build 2416 on Acer TravelMate 2480

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:53 pm
by Voyambar
JonathonWyble wrote:
Schneider616 wrote:TravelMate 2480 is around the Pentium M/Celeron M era, so it should still work.
I did say that OS betas sometimes refuse to work well on actual hardware. I don't know why that is, but usually one would find ways for them to work on a real computer. Hence his TravelMate being made from the Windows XP era...
I would actually say all the time since they are betas after all. I do wonder which betas give the most trouble though.

Re: Windows XP build 2416 on Acer TravelMate 2480

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:58 pm
by JonathonWyble
Voyambar wrote:
JonathonWyble wrote:
Schneider616 wrote:TravelMate 2480 is around the Pentium M/Celeron M era, so it should still work.
I did say that OS betas sometimes refuse to work well on actual hardware. I don't know why that is, but usually one would find ways for them to work on a real computer. Hence his TravelMate being made from the Windows XP era...
I would actually say all the time since they are betas after all. I do wonder which betas give the most trouble though.
Well, most betas are only under development, so of course you probably shouldn't expect them to work properly But like I said, those problems don't happen all the time :)