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 PostPost subject: Chicago 15        Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:27 pm 
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No, I'm not trying to start another argument :P , but I was wondering what people here would say to a modded version of Windows 3.11 that was made to carry the version 4.00, and included a shell that was a replica of that that was seen in the screenshot (would be written in the same way as Caldera - using Delphi 1)?

I'm not intending to do it (yet), I'm nowhere near capable, but I just wanted to see if people would be interested.

As an aside, I will probably never be able to mod the setup files, therefore the thing would be distributed as a preinstalled folder on an ISO, just to copy into your HDD, or as a preinstalled VHD running MS-DOS 7/modded Chicago DOS.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:36 pm 
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Just that I get it correctly: You're talking about a modified copy of DOS and Windows 3.11 supposed to look like that supposed-to-be Chicago build 15?


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:48 pm 
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Something like that. Not to pass off as the real thing, but just to see if it can be done.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:45 pm 
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Sure, it sounds good, just don't call it Chicago... people might think it's a real build..

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:58 am 
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I've been modding windows 3.1 since 1994 (K7474). This is basically to slipstream drivers, files, and install locations. Among other things, i set the thing up so that under the "Games" options, lie all of the woofy things that one does not often install. That is, a standard install was to mark games off, and all others on.

Many things were made optional, such as write, notepad, and winfile. This allows for restoring these files if there was a loss of files.

By the later builds, the tutorial was replaced with a help file (welcome.hlp). This is basically a kind of readme for windows and applications. Using a command utility whelp.exe, i could open pages at particular pages.

Welcome.hlp has a progman interface, where you click on groups and then items. The item would lead you to the desired page. It also had a text menu, and full documentation on the shelldde interface of progman.

As is normal, one patches programs like progman.exe etc, to replace assorted icons to match PC-DOS rather than MS-DOS. I used pc-dos from 6.1 onwards. Files like winoa386.mod had icons changed, and the default MS-DOS Pif became PC-DOS Prompt.

It is interesting that the pattern for today is to make as many features in Windows as possible. In my day, a hard disk was typically 120 MB, and even less (80 and 40 were not unheard of), so the idea was to cull useless guff from the system.


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Very small hard disk drives (or even no hard disk drive) aren't that unfamiliar to me, either. The first computer that was bought for me was an Amstrad PPC-512 - 512K RAM, LCD CGA display (Supertwist!), and 1x 720K DD floppy disk drive (could handle 2). I believe they could take upto a 20MB drive... it would have rocked if I could have had one :).

I stripped all of the gunk out of a Windows 1.01 installation so that it would fit on a 720K disk - everything got missed out, except the Notepad and the Control panel. Looking for a boot/root floppy setup of MINIX to play around with on it, but I can't find one, and the keyboard's dead (looking for a new machine; it's a non-standard keyboard, and I want one with a hard drive :))

I like the old machines. They just work.

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marktuson wrote:
The first computer that was bought for me was an Amstrad PPC-512 - 512K RAM, LCD CGA display (Supertwist!), and 1x 720K DD floppy disk drive (could handle 2).


I had one of those! Awesome machines, they were. :D


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:13 pm 
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does this build requieres serial number or something?

i have it but i never installed it :P


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:49 pm 
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ikki-kun wrote:
does this build requieres serial number or something?

i have it but i never installed it :P

The earliest Chicago Builds used installed like Windows 3.1 and didn't require a serial number.

Also, can you please upload that build to a file sharing service such as Rapidshare?


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:58 am 
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Who? Which system?

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:10 am 
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marktuson wrote:
Who? Which system?

I was asking ikki-kun to upload Chicago Build 15b to a file sharing service such as Rapidshare, because in the post he made above, he claimed that he had it.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:59 am 
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does this build requieres serial number or something?

i have it but i never installed it :P

The earliest Chicago Builds used installed like Windows 3.1 and didn't require a serial number.

Also, can you please upload that build to a file sharing service such as Rapidshare?


well, see, i have some versions of chicago, i have: 53, 58, 58s, 73, 122 and 224 builds, i haven't installed any of that builds, i only have the installation files, but i haven't any serial file or something

If it don't brake any of rule i can upload it to RS and share that with all of u

(sorry for my english, i know it's bad, but i think u undestand me :P)

tnks for reply


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You don't break the rules by doing this.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:22 pm 
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ok, so i'll upload chicago versions then...

This is the build 53 of chicago, i never installed this before, so tell me how it goes


http://rapidshare.com/files/91703944/chicago53.iso


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:24 pm 
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ikki-kun wrote:
ok, so i'll upload chicago versions then...

This is the build 53 of chicago, i never installed this before, so tell me how it goes


http://rapidshare.com/files/91703944/chicago53.iso


its a misslabeled 58s ;)


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:25 pm 
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ikki-kun wrote:
ok, so i'll upload chicago versions then...

This is the build 53 of chicago, i never installed this before, so tell me how it goes


http://rapidshare.com/files/91703944/chicago53.iso


its a misslabeled 58s ;)


really? :S well, tonight i'll upload another ones i have, i'll going to upload all version i have, how can i see what real version it's? (sorry if my english is bad)


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ikki-kun wrote:
Namronia wrote:
ikki-kun wrote:
ok, so i'll upload chicago versions then...

This is the build 53 of chicago, i never installed this before, so tell me how it goes


http://rapidshare.com/files/91703944/chicago53.iso


its a misslabeled 58s ;)


really? :S well, tonight i'll upload another ones i have, i'll going to upload all version i have, how can i see what real version it's? (sorry if my english is bad)


You could install it and run winver or type ver on the command line or you could check the version number of the setup.exe (this works with the majority of Windows builds)

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Namronia wrote:
ikki-kun wrote:
ok, so i'll upload chicago versions then...

This is the build 53 of chicago, i never installed this before, so tell me how it goes


http://rapidshare.com/files/91703944/chicago53.iso


its a misslabeled 58s ;)

I once found that version on WinWorld back in November 2006. I recently read the topic where Chicago Build 58s was first announced, and it seems that a member there accidently typed 53 instead of 58. That may have been where the mistake started.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:17 am 
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I c....


then... now i upload the build 58 (there are a 58s version, i'll put it later)

EDITED:


Build 58s (7zip format):

http://rapidshare.com/files/91959377/Chicago58s.7z

Build 73g (7zip format):

http://rapidshare.com/files/91961697/Chicago73g.7z

Build 117g (7zip format):

http://rapidshare.com/files/91966055/Chicago117.7z


Test it and tellme if it works (and if it's the right version too :P)


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ikki-kun wrote:
I c....


then... now i upload the build 58 (there are a 58s version, i'll put it later)

EDITED:

now this is de build 58 (iso format):

http://rapidshare.com/files/91957479/Chicago58.iso

Build 58s (7zip format):

http://rapidshare.com/files/91959377/Chicago58s.7z

Build 73g (7zip format):

http://rapidshare.com/files/91961697/Chicago73g.7z

Build 117g (7zip format):

http://rapidshare.com/files/91966055/Chicago117.7z


Test it and tellme if it works (and if it's the right version too :P)


the 58 iso is build 117,
58s is build 58s,
73g is build 73g and
117 is build 117 ;)

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