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 PostPost subject: ant figure out what is wrong with a computer        Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:47 pm 
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I installed a fresh copy of XP onto an older computer that had just had extra ram put in. everything was working fine with 2 installs of XP, 1 on one hard drive and one on the other. we brought the computer down to our house (2 hour trip) and try to boot it up but when you would expect the XP boot screen to pop up it just stays black (for both installs). I tried reinstalling XP but after the disk loads all of the drivers and gets to setup is starting windows it hangs. Gparted was able to format 1 of the disks so i don't think its the hard drives. I burned a second copy of the XP disk from my backup on my hard drive and it too failed at the same spot.

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 PostPost subject: Re: ant figure out what is wrong with a computer        Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:58 pm 
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How did you transport it, secured or just lying in the backseat.
I think some hardware is damaged, even if you do not feel any bumps in the road they are there and computers can ''feel'' them and some hardware can come loose or get damaged by the bumps.

If it's the second one:
- Remove RAM, Expansion card.
- Reseat the processor cooler and maybe the processor also
- Reconnect all drives.

This sounds like the same problem I have with my old comp.
It wouldn't boot in, but a few resets do the trick.

If you transport computers, ALWAYS put them in the ORIGINAL box, or if it's a custom build computer, put it in the box where the case was.
If you do not have a box, try something that fits just around it, if you can't find such thing, do not transport the computer in the car, on a bike or something.

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 PostPost subject: Re: ant figure out what is wrong with a computer        Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:03 pm 
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It was a custom (horribly built) computer transported in the trunk. We have checked the connections and they seemed fine but im going to disconnect everything again and try 1 hard drive at a time just to minimize possibilities.

thanks ill post back around 6 hours with an update


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 PostPost subject: Re: ant figure out what is wrong with a computer        Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:36 pm 
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If that doesn't work.

Try it to run with what only is needed to run it.
Like, the motherboard with processors, 1 stick of ram, at least an VGA 1 harddrive.

And then trying to put more hardware in until it doesn't work.
Then try some other configuration with it and if that doesn't work, the part is broken.

It can also be that 1 of the memory banks (where the memory sits is, usually black) is damaged.

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 PostPost subject: Re: ant figure out what is wrong with a computer        Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:41 pm 
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Check there isn't some short circuit caused by a loose screw getting lodged between the motherboard and the case. If you've moved it onto its side while in transit its entirely possible a loose screw could have got lodged.

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 PostPost subject: Re: ant figure out what is wrong with a computer        Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:02 am 
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checked for loose screws and connections and cleaned it out from the dust. hard drive 2 appears to be rattling so i want to back it up first. xp live cd's or install cds (4 separate cds from 4 separate sources) didnt boot but linux live cd's do???

any idea why windows would stop loading at the point you would expect a boot screen but linux load fine?


EDIT: Upon closer inspection of the motherboard after another cleaning of dust (a lot of moist, stuck on dust) i found 3 capacitors that had been blown pretty badly. I think its safe to assume the motherboards going. I had this happen on my t series emachines and this is a w series so it might just be a motherboard that likes to be really clean.


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