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 PostPost subject: Need help with specifying a new computer...        Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:37 am 
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I currently am running a Sempron with 1gb ram as my main machine and I've had enough of it!

I would like to build a Core2something pc, but have completely lost track of where processors are right now.

I used to have an AMD X2 6000+ so obviously I'd like it to be substantially better than that.

Can anyone point me in the right direction...or explain intel's cpu lines at the moment? I will be buying from ebuyer.

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EDIT :: What's this like for value? http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164667

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 PostPost subject: Re: Need help with specifying a new computer...        Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:37 pm 
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For a basic PC its a very good price. Are you looking to buy pre-built or build a PC? Bare in mind its more expensive to build a PC nowadays but you get personalised specs if you do.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Need help with specifying a new computer...        Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:44 pm 
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Andy wrote:
For a basic PC its a very good price. Are you looking to buy pre-built or build a PC? Bare in mind its more expensive to build a PC nowadays but you get personalised specs if you do.

Whichever really...whatever works out cheapest. I thought some package deals might be a bit cheaper.

All I need from it is; the ability to smoothly run a couple of VMs, Photoshop, Flash Development, run multiple instances of webbrowsers / righ web apps etc... Oh and good enough graphics for Win7. My sempron 3000+ does keep me waiting around a bit sometimes.

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It might not run the VM's very quickly but it will be great for the rest. If you want to run a few VM's then look for a Core2Duo rather than a Pentium Dual Core. If its just a single VM then you'll probably get away with it just fine.

Most modern PC's will run Win7 just fine. My Netbook with a 1.6GHz Atom runs it no problem (but I use Vista as Win7 was a bit buggy).

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 PostPost subject: Re: Need help with specifying a new computer...        Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:50 pm 
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It might not run the VM's very quickly but it will be great for the rest. If you want to run a few VM's then look for a Core2Duo rather than a Pentium Dual Core. If its just a single VM then you'll probably get away with it just fine.

Most modern PC's will run Win7 just fine. My Netbook with a 1.6GHz Atom runs it no problem (but I use Vista as Win7 was a bit buggy).

This is where I hit a brick wall. Whats the difference between a pentium dual core and a core2duo?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Need help with specifying a new computer...        Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:55 pm 
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A PDC is a cut down version of the C2D. To put it simply, the C2D is better than the PDC, but its also more expensive.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Need help with specifying a new computer...        Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:10 pm 
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would this machine be any superior? http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159372

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 PostPost subject: Re: Need help with specifying a new computer...        Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:14 pm 
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Yes, much more superior. :) Not a bad price either.

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Andy wrote:
A PDC is a cut down version of the C2D. To put it simply, the C2D is better than the PDC, but its also more expensive.


C2D has more cache...


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Andy wrote:
A PDC is a cut down version of the C2D. To put it simply, the C2D is better than the PDC, but its also more expensive.


C2D has more cache...


Some parts are also disabled. A PDC is just a C2D with parts turned off if I remember rightly.

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Thats true also core 2 duo has virtualization technology enabled on it to speed up that kind of thing.

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Yeah, it has more features. As a rule to be more future proof you should go with a C2D rather than a PDC since its newer and faster. If you have a tight budget then the PDC would be more favourable but if not then go with C2D.

Avoid CDQ unless you know you'll use the power. So many people think that a quad core is better because its got more power. While true, its only better IF you can use that power! Very few apps use all those cores, same with games. You're actually better off going high end C2D instead unless you know for fact you will use apps that will utilise the cores. I myself very rarely use the full potential of 2 cores and I use a lot of different software all at once!

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Here is a frequently encountered senario where Quad Core makes a very big difference:

Compressing with 7zip can 2 CPU Cores:
->If I'm compressing a large file then my system would be almost unsuable while 7zip is compressing
-> BUT with a quadcore CPU I can happily move along

So, get a quadcore!

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Just 7zip'ing doesn't warrant a quad core. I do the same on my dual core PC and it runs just fine. Sure it takes a little longer but then who is counting the minutes? Unless that's all your PC ever does on a daily basis, its honestly not worth it.

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It probably should be mentioned that you should take a look at AMD's CPU lineup to see if there is anything you like from its lineup.


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merty wrote:
It probably should be mentioned that you should take a look at AMD's CPU lineup to see if there is anything you like from its lineup.


That's always an idea, since they don't hurt the pocket so much. But, if you really want the power, Intel is currently the way to go.

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