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 PostPost subject: How Do You Make Money From The Internet legaly?        Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:39 am 
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i would like to setup a business on the internet , im willing to set up a server if i have too.

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 PostPost subject: Re: How Do You Make Money From The Internet legaly?        Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:45 am 
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I'm not sure about setting up a business, but if you want to do some work yourself, go ask Andy. He does a few freelance jobs on the internet to help pay for running BA. I'm sure he could point you in the right direction.

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 PostPost subject: Re: How Do You Make Money From The Internet legaly?        Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:48 am 
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i would like to setup a business on the internet , im willing to set up a server if i have too.


mabe you can use some hosting
shells..
get a pc,install ubuntu or freebsd and try to sell shell acounts to make some money,but you must let the pc run 24/7
you can host for money like: counter strike servers,samp servers,psybnc hosting,eggdrop hosting mabe more if you think
but you need a good bandwidth otherwise just go with shell accounts :)

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 PostPost subject: Re: How Do You Make Money From The Internet legaly?        Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:57 am 
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Just from personal experience, making real money out of the internet is not an easy task. I've not made a penny out of M1, and I'm sure Andy's not made a penny out of BA and it's server either.

The key is getting large quantities of people to know your site exists, and to have a very good reason to visit it. The Internet places more emphasis on marketing than almost any other ecosystem.

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The key is getting large quantities of people to know your site exists.


Right,and that takes time :)


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thanks for the replies, i cant see there being any money in selling software, its to easy to crack software.

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Write an iPhone app that does something completely stupid like making fart noises, and sell it on the App Store for $1.99. Sadly, lots of people will buy it.

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betaluva wrote:
thanks for the replies, i cant see there being any money in selling software, its to easy to crack software.


Well, considering you actually need something to sell first...


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thanks for the replies, i cant see there being any money in selling software, its to easy to crack software.


Well, considering you actually need something to sell first...


If you're really interested, you can buy massive amount and sell them slightly higher, say 0.39$ higher.

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Sell porn.

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 PostPost subject: Re: How Do You Make Money From The Internet legaly?        Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:24 am 
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Sell porn.


Thats stupid. If you want to earn money, sell game accounts, etc. Use Triond.

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Nah, he can't sell porn. What he could do is run a blog about/with links to porn and make money off advertising, or run a porn forum with ads and make a bit that way.

Given that you live in Australia, aLinux's suggestions are out of the question.

ADD: Happy Dude, don't you make money selling crap on eBay?


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Is porn really the right thing to discuss on these forums where many minors are present? Nope. Talk about it in PM's or something.

I think pr0gram has the right idea... In fact, I'm off to write a stupid iPhone app and make a few bob. :3

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I think pr0gram has the right idea... In fact, I'm off to write a stupid iPhone app and make a few bob. :3


From what I hear, writing iPhone apps is easier said than done, and it is quite an expensive task to do properly. Unless you're good with Objective-C, It's probably going to cost more to get the tools than you'd make out of sales in a reasonable time.

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I think pr0gram has the right idea... In fact, I'm off to write a stupid iPhone app and make a few bob. :3


From what I hear, writing iPhone apps is easier said than done, and it is quite an expensive task to do properly. Unless you're good with Objective-C, It's probably going to cost more to get the tools than you'd make out of sales in a reasonable time.


You hear correct. You need to have a Dev Membership to sell and develop an app, and that alone costs $99. And the SDK is for Intel-based Macs running Mac OS X Leopard. =/

Not really a fan of Macs. Maybe I won't write an iPhone app...

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ADD: Happy Dude, don't you make money selling crap on eBay?


Yeah, mine atm is mostly random crap but I'm thinking of opening an online store to sell a certain product/s

betaluva: find something people want, but cant easily get through normal channels (ie eBay/online/retail)


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QuiescentWonder wrote:
betaluva wrote:
thanks for the replies, i cant see there being any money in selling software, its to easy to crack software.


Well, considering you actually need something to sell first...


Durrr, i know that!, i cant write code (yet) but i was considering making a offer to buy some apps from people.

hey ,all i need to do is start the next facebook,i know "friendface.com" lolz ( the it crowd rulez)

crud! im too slow: http://www.friendface.com/

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If you want to make real money online then the key is a good advertising strategy and a budget to match!

If you start a hosting company and put $15k in to your first years advertising I reckon you would be pulling at least $2k a month from customers by the end of your first year.

Gaming servers are also good, but you need quite a powerful server and a custom compiled kernel to do it properly. If you have enough bandwidth they can easily pay for themselves though! Again, advertising is the key, you won't make anything if people don't see your name!


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Advertising will never bring in a significant amount of money. Remember the ".com bubble" that burst. Yeah, that was the lesson it was teaching us.

Also, porn is porn. It will always make money. No one is showing pictures of naked women getting fisted, so just relax. You think that a 14 year old doesn't know what porn is? Doesn't talk about it with their friends?

Also, if your reason to not sell software is purely "it is too easy to crack", then you sir, are naive. Guess what. My mom doesn't want a cracked bit of software. Neither does the admin at your local elementary school. Neither does the guy running a legit software consulting business. If you TRULY have software of value and it is priced right, the only ones pirating it are the kids who have no money and the adults who wouldn't pay for it regardless.

You sound young. You see the internet as a potential "job" with lots of money to be had. It isn't. The people making money on twitter, myspace, all of that crap are riding a bubble we seen in the late 90's. They have investors and clients who want to just throw away money at the hope that somehow their business will become viable. It WILL burst... Just like before.

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If you start a hosting company and put $15k in to your first years advertising I reckon you would be pulling at least $2k a month from customers by the end of your first year.


Pfffffffft. You wish. You can't just set up a business and expect people to just "sign up". Lets assume he has the most awesome, most reliable hosting company in the world running off his cheap server and cable modem in the basement. You then need customers. Customers who will be reluctant to throw money at some startup with no apparent financial backing, no established reputation, well, nothing over the competition.

If you want money, get a job... A real job at a brick and mortar establishment. McDonalds isn't a bad job. You *generally* get good pay, benefits, and free/discounted high calorie food.


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Advertising will never bring in a significant amount of money. Remember the ".com bubble" that burst. Yeah, that was the lesson it was teaching us.

Also, porn is porn. It will always make money. No one is showing pictures of naked women getting fisted, so just relax. You think that a 14 year old doesn't know what porn is? Doesn't talk about it with their friends?

Also, if your reason to not sell software is purely "it is too easy to crack", then you sir, are naive. Guess what. My mom doesn't want a cracked bit of software. Neither does the admin at your local elementary school. Neither does the guy running a legit software consulting business. If you TRULY have software of value and it is priced right, the only ones pirating it are the kids who have no money and the adults who wouldn't pay for it regardless.

You sound young. You see the internet as a potential "job" with lots of money to be had. It isn't. The people making money on twitter, myspace, all of that crap are riding a bubble we seen in the late 90's. They have investors and clients who want to just throw away money at the hope that somehow their business will become viable. It WILL burst... Just like before.

Lastly:

IainK wrote:
If you start a hosting company and put $15k in to your first years advertising I reckon you would be pulling at least $2k a month from customers by the end of your first year.


Pfffffffft. You wish. You can't just set up a business and expect people to just "sign up". Lets assume he has the most awesome, most reliable hosting company in the world running off his cheap server and cable modem in the basement. You then need customers. Customers who will be reluctant to throw money at some startup with no apparent financial backing, no established reputation, well, nothing over the competition.

If you want money, get a job... A real job at a brick and mortar establishment. McDonalds isn't a bad job. You *generally* get good pay, benefits, and free/discounted high calorie food.



hi, this is all good advice BUT:

1- i already have a day job, i have a home based business repairing and upgradeing pc,s , i just want to make some extra money from the net ( i spend about 4 to 6 hours a day on the net so why not make some money while im at it? ). as for my age, well old folks would say im young and kids would say probably say im old . :P

2- as for software, i still think there isnt any money in selling software, especialy at the moment with the change over to 64 bit , im not willing to buy 32 bit software from people,43 bit old technology and there desnt seem to be much 64 bit software around yet, if i was going to buy software from people i would do it in a few years time.

3- i wouldnt even consider seting up a web hosting company, there are already hundreds if not thousands of website hosting companies, the same goes for domain registration companies.

4- as for porn, i wouldnt have a problem with selling porn, sex is a perfectly natural thing, if you want to watch porn then thats your choice,i wouldnt sell kiddie or sadistic or violent porn.

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