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 PostPost subject: Access OLD hard drives externally...        Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:42 am 
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So everyone knows that you can use an external USB drive controller to access IDE or SATA hard drives, right? And you can usually access them in spite of what jumpers are set (Master, Slave, Cable Select, ect.) Well, what about OLD hard drives... like the Maxtor 7120AT 120MB have drive? It's IDE, but it has odd-ball jumper settings and I can't seem to initialize or read/write to the drive. (Nor any other drives that are this age.) Note that I can access them in computers from around 1998 or so. Windows sees that what kind of hard drive it is when attached externally, but that's all. Is this a limitation based on the external USB drive controller or do I need to set jumpers on these drives? Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

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 PostPost subject: Re: Access OLD hard drives externally...        Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 4:04 am 
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Older drives that are generally 540MB or less need to be directly connected to an IDE connector, and usually need to be configured according to the Cylinder/Head/Sector information printed on the top of the hard drive in the BIOS of the computer. Most modern systems still offer that sort of functionality. I've managed to pull data from ancient IDE drives (varying sizes, oldest being 85MB).

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 PostPost subject: Re: Access OLD hard drives externally...        Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 2:42 pm 
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Older drives that are generally 540MB or less need to be directly connected to an IDE connector, and usually need to be configured according to the Cylinder/Head/Sector information printed on the top of the hard drive in the BIOS of the computer. Most modern systems still offer that sort of functionality. I've managed to pull data from ancient IDE drives (varying sizes, oldest being 85MB).


I knew aboout older drives needing head/cylinder/sector info set manually, but I was unsure if it even applied in this instance. Does anyone know of a USB/Firewire drive controller that can access older drives like this (or allow you to set the head/cylinder/sector info inside of a program or something?) Something like this has to exist.

P.S. - I'm not trying to pull any data off these drives, I just want to be able to use them/play around with them, but I don't wanna have to hook up the test server I have, there's alot of parts involved and until I get my house set up right, I don't want to have it in the way.

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 PostPost subject: Re: Access OLD hard drives externally...        Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:08 pm 
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Unfortunately I think this problem is much more complicated than setting the head/cylinder/sector data. I have a very old drive that I have data on that I would like to get off. I researched it a bit because it will not spin up if a USB adapter is attached.

Most all recent drive controllers (like those that would be found in a USB adapter) are most likely designed only to access drives that use a newer ATA specification like ATA/EIDE. I would bet that none of them are designed to communicate with a device that is running a first generation AT interface (pre-1994).

For me, I am planning on finding an old 386 or 486 to connect the drive to and try to get the data off my drive. Unfortunately it may not be possible to play with or experiment with these drives using USB.


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