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 PostPost subject: I felt like doing a quick defrag...        Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:07 am 
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Erm... I fail to see how this is a completed defrag...

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Geez, how long has it been since your last defrag?


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Bit of a fail there :P
Thought you had an auto disk-defrag script Andy?

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 PostPost subject: Re: I felt like doing a quick defrag...        Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:50 pm 
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Erm... I fail to see how this is a completed defrag...


I think the defrag was completed, the files that weren't defraged were in use at the time.
And since it's the WWW drive (running the forum and all other websites and FTP) some files were locked or too big.

Otherwise download the auslogics Disk Defrag, it's about the same, but I find it more better and faster then the Windows Defragmenter.

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 PostPost subject: Re: I felt like doing a quick defrag...        Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:52 pm 
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See the thing is I turned off the auto defrag because it was making the server hang due to the disk load, so I then decided "ooh what does it look like after 2 months of no defrag"... That was the result. The files it didn't defrag couldn't possibly have been in use. Some maybe but not the whole drives worth...

I'm going to use the Auslogics one, I already have it installed anyway.

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If the disk is nearly full (around 15% or so free space) then very large files tend to not defragment, and it looks as though your disk is the one where you keep you OS .ISO images (looking at the status bar on the first screenshot) so it could have been that as well. If it's just files for the FTP server it probably doesn't really matter if they're in several fragments as those files are only occasionally accessed when someone wants to download one and I doubt it would affect the speed of the download - more important is ensuring all the files that make up an OS, game installation etc are fragmented as little as possible as that's where you will notice performance reductions if it is heavily fragmented.

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i would take the ftp offline for a night and turn it back on in the morning so it can defrag properly. (along with the mentioned need of 15% free space)

it looks worse than my dads! (he never defragments)


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somewhere I had a screencap of a 1 gig file with over 1 million fragments! It took FOREVER to copy the file off, defrag the box and clean it up....

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i would take the ftp offline for a night and turn it back on in the morning so it can defrag properly. (along with the mentioned need of 15% free space)

it looks worse than my dads! (he never defragments)


If he takes the FTP offline, the site and other websites (including mine) will go offline.
Because everything is on that HD.

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well i would prefer not having the site for a night or downloads for one night than have it never defragment month after month.

of course i'm not one having a site on it so :P


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well i would prefer not having the site for a night or downloads for one night than have it never defragment month after month.

of course i'm not one having a site on it so :P


It is OK for me if he drefrags, but then I and others being hosted here would like to know from when to when it's offline so that we can make a note on our front page.

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 PostPost subject: Re: I felt like doing a quick defrag...        Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:20 pm 
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It's not like the server is prohibitively slow and this is causing a big deal.

Still, thought I'd check my Home server and the M1 server

Home Server (Installed Windows on 25th Dec - Copied all my Software, OSes, Media over, not defragged ever):
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Might defragment my Home server, since that won't be used overnight, but defragmenting the M1 server is far too much work :P

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I thought that I read in the Home Server manual or the notes that you must not use the System Tools, it can break the home server (just saying).

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I thought that I read in the Home Server manual or the notes that you must not use the System Tools, it can break the home server (just saying).


Maybe, but just to point out that while I refer to it as My Home Server, I mean a Server in my house, as opposed to a machine running Windows Home Server. I actually run Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise x64 (SP2) since I can get that off my MSDN-AA for nothing, whereas I can't with Home Server.

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I thought that I read in the Home Server manual or the notes that you must not use the System Tools, it can break the home server (just saying).


Maybe, but just to point out that while I refer to it as My Home Server, I mean a Server in my house, as opposed to a machine running Windows Home Server. I actually run Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise x64 (SP2) since I can get that off my MSDN-AA for nothing, whereas I can't with Home Server.


Ok sorry, misunderstood

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Ouch :| lol.


Yeah my last defrag was like that and it taked an afternoon to do it :S


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I set it going 8 hours ago before work and its not moved the "this is after defrag" bar at all... I stopped it to avoid destroying the drive trying. I guess a fragmented drive will have to do! Even the Auslogics one didn't do much.

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Perhaps you can just defrag individual files instead of the entire drive at once? The latest version of Auslogics Disk Defrag supports that...

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As does Piriform's Defraggler.


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Mine's been running about 18hrs now and has just hit 32% on the 'Defragmenting' Stage of Defraggler (After defragmenting files, Defraggler then Defrags free space too) :(

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(After defragmenting files, Defraggler then Defrags free space too) :(


what does "defragment free space" mean?

offtopic, i love defraggler


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(After defragmenting files, Defraggler then Defrags free space too) :(


what does "defragment free space" mean?

offtopic, i love defraggler


It means it tries to arrange all the free space in one continuous block as well.

Current status, some 22hrs after I started defragmenting:
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