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 PostPost subject: new higher definition in youtube        Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:25 am 
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you would not believe the quality of the new hd youtube added (havent seen anyone comment on this) it is 720p and runs quite nicely and im just amazed that this video is from the land of bad quality videos!

first watch this in normal quality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7GgzAd3 ... re=related

then add &fmt=22 to the end of the url and see it in amazing hd wuality (normal hd at youtube is 18)


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:30 am 
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Wow, it even streams better than normal videos, it must have its own bandwidth, lol. Proper good quality though, 5 stars from me! (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:33 am 
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It's apparently been around for a while, just not widely known.

Looks good, but can't do jack all with AOHell giving me 1/20 the speed I pay for 8-)

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Wow, that does look very amazing, even compared to the normal "High Quality" link that some videos have below them.

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Very impressive. I've seen it become more popular recently.

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Wow, thank you very much! It's really handy. Does it works by all the movies, and does the quality of the sound also increase?

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Yeah, the link to watch videos in HD quality has always been freakishly small that it's not very noticeable and I forget it's there when I watch the video. lol.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:34 pm 
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zeehonden_3 wrote:
Wow, thank you very much! It's really handy. Does it works by all the movies, and does the quality of the sound also increase?


well it will only work on movies that have the normal hd button but you just add &fmt=22 to see if it works, also i believe it retains the same surround sound the original hd had.


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It's a great improvement over the smallish bad quality Youtube usually is associated with. But it's not near "true" 720p. The bitrate is way too low and the artifacts can be seen. Understandable tho since it's streamed over the net. So for you people already used to 720p material remember that the quality is even better when the bitrate is up to spec. I myself is already spoiled with 1080p, so even 720p is a tad too low for me =). (I don't even watch DVD anymore unless I am forced).

Anyways, about time Youtube got better quality, and a major improvement it is.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:48 pm 
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what they really need to do is fix hwo when you try to move the slider ona video it only goes onto certain spots (sometimes the spots are 30 seconds apart) that really bugs me :x


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zamadatix wrote:
what they really need to do is fix hwo when you try to move the slider ona video it only goes onto certain spots (sometimes the spots are 30 seconds apart) that really bugs me :x
Yeah thats the only real problem. Quality of the video isn't the biggest problem on youtube either. The comment system needs to be removed from youtube.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:07 pm 
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Famouss wrote:
zamadatix wrote:
what they really need to do is fix hwo when you try to move the slider ona video it only goes onto certain spots (sometimes the spots are 30 seconds apart) that really bugs me :x
Yeah thats the only real problem. Quality of the video isn't the biggest problem on youtube either. The comment system needs to be removed from youtube.


Yep that bug angers me too. As well as how if you click it'll start loading then jump randomly somewhere else...


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I didnt think it was possible for them to have such good quality ,considering its youtube and all.Im VERY impressed,good work youtube keep up the innovation.


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I didnt think it was possible for them to have such good quality, considering its youtube and all.Im VERY impressed,good work youtube keep up the innovation.


Anything is possible with the power of Google. YouTube keeps adding new quality levels but I highly doubt they will be getting up to (even fake) 1080 anytime soon.


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Anything is possible with the power of Google. YouTube keeps adding new quality levels but I highly doubt they will be getting up to (even fake) 1080 anytime soon.


i think that is what they are actually working towards, the capability for 1080 video. after all we all know google doesn't stop when its moved 80% of the way from where it was when it started, it will go all the way i imagine.


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What they need to do next is update their player so that it uses the video card more efficiently.

I believe the way it's currently setup, it uses the CPU to do all the processing, instead of the GPU.


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with flash 10 just coming out with its support for gpu i imagine there probably thinking about it


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zamadatix wrote:
Luthian wrote:
Anything is possible with the power of Google. YouTube keeps adding new quality levels but I highly doubt they will be getting up to (even fake) 1080 anytime soon.


i think that is what they are actually working towards, the capability for 1080 video. after all we all know google doesn't stop when its moved 80% of the way from where it was when it started, it will go all the way i imagine.


There is no limit to what Youtube or anyone can do. The only limitation is the client bandwidth. If everyone had 10GBit connections then everything would already be 1080p uncompressed and streaming. You can't "fake" 1080p. It's either 1080p (content in progressive 1920x1080 resolution) or it's not. You can however manipulate the bitrate and lower it to save bandwidth, but that also lowers the quality of the video and introduces artifacts and blur. Of course new compression algorithms and forcing the client to use more processing power to decode the video raises the bitrate without increasing filesize, but that's about the only thing they can develop. And soon we'll have CUDA-enabled flash (or Silverlight) that will handle all the decoding needed since the GPU is much more powerful than the CPU when it comes to video encoding and decoding.

The future will tell. I still remember when my jaw dropped watching full screen 640x480 20fps low quality MPEG1 video on my Pentium 120MHz and ATI RageII video card... and that was eons ago. Today I can play full 720p HD video on my cellphone without a hitch =).

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i was considering 1080p "all the way" becasue it comes to the end where its a good marketing item and the amount of people with monitors better than it makes developement and deployment pointless.

as a side question what would the limit for a normal computer be on bit rate?


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:28 am 
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The difference really is drastic, I was personally amazed by it. Recently they made the switch from "Higher Quality" to "HD" and now it's even better!


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I'm not the brightest spark, so can someone explain to me how it can be such good quality and take the same to load as the much lower quality video?


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I'm not the brightest spark, so can someone explain to me how it can be such good quality and take the same to load as the much lower quality video?


they probably jut gave it a higher max bandwidth which was a bit high for how large the actual stream was so it loads faster than a lower quality one.


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