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 PostPost subject: (Actual) Tips for newbies.        Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:40 am 
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There have been quite a few posts recently to do with "Advice" for newbies.
I thought I might try and offer new members to the forum, somthing a little more helpfull than:
Read the forum rules and Use Google.
Anyway, heres some tips newbies might actually find helpfull:

13. What builds are on the server?
I'm pretty sure that all Windows builds on the FTP, are listed on DjRobs site:
http://www.microsoftwindowscollectionbook.com/
I'd also reccomend that any newbies check out his site, simply because of how great it is, best screenshots gallery around.

12. Currently, Midori is NOT the future of Windows:
This article says all that needs to be said about Midori

11. You cannot use Windows Update in Longhorn to install Xp updates:
It just doesn't work that way.

10. Longhorn is not based on Windows XP:
Longhorn is not based on Windows Xp, it is based on Windows Server 2003, and Windows Server 2003 is based on Xp.

9. The codename for Windows 7 is not Vienna:
The codename for Windows 7 IS Windows 7, Vienna was never its codename.

8. Longhorn is not a Beta OS:
All Vista Builds Prior to 5112 are Alpha, not Beta.

7. This is not a build of Longhorn:
Alot of people have ill-informed/confused ideas about what this video is. As it says in the description, it is a concept video, nothing portrayed in that video ever existed.

6. Typing in 1337 is not cool:
Using numbers in place of letters is not cool, in doesn't even look good, it just makes text really hard to read.

5. Wikipedia is not always right:
Wikipedia is not always right, in some cases (like the whole Vienna codename thing) the facts on Wikipedia are just rumours, or complete fiction.

4. Theres no point requesting unleaked builds on the forum:
The people who have unleaked builds generally don't hang aroung these forums, and those on the forum who do have unleaked builds, probably aren't going to leak them simply because someone asked nice.

3. Making a custom OS:
Slapping your name on a build of Windows, and/or slipstreaming a few programs/updates/whatnot does not constitute a custom OS, meerly plagerism.

2. Betas/Alphas have bugs:
It wasn't released because it wasn't ready to be released, hence, it has bugs, you need to be ready to accept that with most software.

1. Everyone has their own opinions:
Some people use Windows, others OSX or a flavour of Linux, which is better is a matter of opinion.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:47 am 
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Hats off to you jabster


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Great post! Couldn't have made it any clearer,

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wouldve been nice to have that when i came here, good post


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this l33t p0st is t3h w1n

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Nah.

Your post has cleared some things up for me and im a long standing member! Quality post.

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 PostPost subject: Re: (Actual) Tips for newbies.        Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:29 pm 
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jabster wrote:
13. What builds are on the server?
I'm pretty sure that all Windows builds on the FTP, are listed on DjRobs site:
http://www.microsoftwindowscollectionbook.com/
I'd also reccomend that any newbies check out his site, simply because of how great it is, best screenshots gallery around.


Thanks.

I have added in the meantime some builds that I have missed that are leaked.
And thanks that my screenshot gallery is nice, most gallery's only show bootscreen, logon, desktop and sometimes system properties/winver.

My screenshots are about the installation mostly that's why it's very different from others.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:37 pm 
One more tip :: dont ever wait for the next release of a processor or else waitning for new one and te best one will make you wait for ever ..like me ...


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One more tip :: dont ever wait for the next release of a processor or else waitning for new one and te best one will make you wait for ever ..like me ...


Moderator's Tip of the Day:

Don't make loads of posts whose entire content is THANX!!!!!1111 THIS IZ C00L!!11 (or similar)
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nikhil14b wrote:
One more tip :: dont ever wait for the next release of a processor or else waitning for new one and te best one will make you wait for ever ..like me ...


This topic is about the FORUM not your PROCESSOR.
Geez, look at the title.

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Heh. Thanks for the tips... I once tried Longhorn, but I basically ended up messing up the partitions on my spare machine. Not that I really tried to rectify the problem.


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jabster wrote:
10. Longhorn is not based on Windows XP:
Longhorn is not based on Windows Xp, it is based on Windows Server 2003, and Windows Server 2003 is based on Xp.

Actually, iirc all builds pre-5000 (except 3790) are based on XP. It was the infamous reset that changed it to Sever 2K3.


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logicaL wrote:
jabster wrote:
10. Longhorn is not based on Windows XP:
Longhorn is not based on Windows Xp, it is based on Windows Server 2003, and Windows Server 2003 is based on Xp.

Actually, iirc all builds pre-5000 (except 3790) are based on XP. It was the infamous reset that changed it to Sever 2K3.


No, wrong.

It is based on Server 2003 but with the client code enabled.
Another simple way, to look at the buildnumber.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:20 pm 
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All builds of Longhorn, including builds before the reset are based on Server 2003.
Longhorn being based on XP is a commonly made mistake, thats why its on the list :wink:


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DjRob wrote:
logicaL wrote:
jabster wrote:
10. Longhorn is not based on Windows XP:
Longhorn is not based on Windows Xp, it is based on Windows Server 2003, and Windows Server 2003 is based on Xp.

Actually, iirc all builds pre-5000 (except 3790) are based on XP. It was the infamous reset that changed it to Sever 2K3.


No, wrong.

It is based on Server 2003 but with the client code enabled.
Another simple way, to look at the buildnumber.

What should I be looking at on the build number? Server 2003 is 3790 right? What about build LH 3683 (Longhorn XP Professional)?


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Okay then.

Somebody should re-edit wikipedia then as well since it contradicts itself.


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logicaL wrote:
Okay then.

Somebody should re-edit wikipedia then as well since it contradicts itself.


Yes please.

But let me quoute:

First Post wrote:
5. Wikipedia is not always right:
Wikipedia is not always right, in some cases (like the whole Vienna codename thing) the facts on Wikipedia are just rumours, or complete fiction.

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logicaL wrote:
Okay then.

Somebody should re-edit wikipedia then as well since it contradicts itself.

Not only is Wikipedia not always right, but quite often they are not willing to accept they have been wrong.
I don't know how many times I've corrected somthing on Wikipedia, only to come back the next day and find it un-corrected.


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DjRob wrote:
logicaL wrote:
Okay then.

Somebody should re-edit wikipedia then as well since it contradicts itself.


Yes please.

But let me quoute:

First Post wrote:
5. Wikipedia is not always right:
Wikipedia is not always right, in some cases (like the whole Vienna codename thing) the facts on Wikipedia are just rumours, or complete fiction.

I know Wikipedia isn't always right. I wasn't using them as my main source. I just always thought (with the Longhorn XP Professional tag) that it was based off of... well XP.

Then what was the point of the "reset" then, just to switch from Server 2K3 to Server 2K3 SP1?


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logicaL wrote:
DjRob wrote:
logicaL wrote:
Okay then.

Somebody should re-edit wikipedia then as well since it contradicts itself.


Yes please.

But let me quoute:

First Post wrote:
5. Wikipedia is not always right:
Wikipedia is not always right, in some cases (like the whole Vienna codename thing) the facts on Wikipedia are just rumours, or complete fiction.

I know Wikipedia isn't always right. I wasn't using them as my main source. I just always thought (with the Longhorn XP Professional tag) that it was based off of... well XP.

Then what was the point of the "reset" then, just to switch from Server 2K3 to Server 2K3 SP1?

The point of the reset was to start from scratch, having learnt from the mistakes made up until that point.


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I have another tip:

This is a Beta Forum
No one cares when you try to say a Beta isn't worth using because it's a) pre-release software or b) It's illegal.

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hounsell wrote:
I have another tip:

This is a Beta Forum
No one cares when you try to say a Beta isn't worth using because it's a) pre-release software or b) It's illegal.


I never have seen anyone say "Don't try out (insert beta here) because it sucks dongs", however I fully support the "Don't use (insert beta here) as a Main OS", because of the fact you will be doing your homework at midnight, it's due the next day, (insert feature here) doesn't work and you need it to or the assignment can't be completed. Then you have people complaining here because their teacher didn't accept it as an excuse.


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 PostPost subject: Re: (Actual) Tips for newbies.        Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:25 pm 
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5. Wikipedia is not always right:
Wikipedia is not always right, in some cases (like the whole Vienna codename thing) the facts on Wikipedia are just rumours, or complete fiction.


That is so true...


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I think this topic has made its point, and we don't need pointless comments being added.

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