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 PostPost subject: need help (picking a computer)        Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:57 pm 
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my friend (running windows 98 and saying its actually laggy after he reinstalled it...) is finally getting a new computer, but his price range is 400-500 dollars. whats the best computer he can get for that (i usually do laptops but he wants a desktop)

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Another question, is your friend looking to buy a pre-built system from a store? Or is he looking for something custom built for around the $500 mark?


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he isn't the brightest when it comes to computers so store bought and would like windows vista.


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Well what kind of things is the computer going to be used for? Just Word Processing and Web Browsing? Or will some gaming be involved?


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he isn't the brightest when it comes to computers so store bought and would like windows vista.


Well, then you should get an laptop.

Otherwise if you buy an towerpc or desktoppc it will contain an illegal version of windows because then it's out of the price-range.

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oh really? (3 second search) http://www.bestbuy.com/site//olspage.jsp?id=abcat0501001&type=category

he doesnt want the most amazing comptuer ever created just something he can browse the web on have vista and preferably not have lag.


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oh really? (3 second search) http://www.bestbuy.com/site//olspage.jsp?id=abcat0501001&type=category

he doesnt want the most amazing comptuer ever created just something he can browse the web on have vista and preferably not have lag.

Best Buy is a horrible place to buy a tower PC. I got an HP computer with 2GB ram, 250GB HD, NVIDIA 6150 LE, a energy efficient Dual-core AMD cpu, and a lightscribe DVD Writer with Windows XP MCE. All for just $789.99 USD for the tower and only the tower(it did have some hardware but no monitor)

That was back at Labor day 2006. Now it's worth less than $500. I suggest you check the prices of computers in the Best Buy and computers bought somewhere else/online.


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that best buy link was just because someone said if i bought a tower for 400 dollars it would have to have an illegal copy of ms windows to be able to run vista.

i recently bought a $550 laptop from circuit city with 3gb ram 1gb vram a 500gb hard drive and dual core 64 bit 2.0 ghz processors with blue tooth a printer (not a abad one actually photos and everything) vista home ultimate a headset a mouse and external keyboard usb. now their on "sale" for 750 with a rip off normal price of $1000.


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zamadatix wrote:
oh really? (3 second search) http://www.bestbuy.com/site//olspage.jsp?id=abcat0501001&type=category

he doesnt want the most amazing comptuer ever created just something he can browse the web on have vista and preferably not have lag.

Best Buy is a horrible place to buy a tower PC. I got an HP computer with 2GB ram, 250GB HD, NVIDIA 6150 LE, a energy efficient Dual-core AMD cpu, and a lightscribe DVD Writer with Windows XP MCE. All for just $789.99 USD for the tower and only the tower(it did have some hardware but no monitor)

That was back at Labor day 2006. Now it's worth less than $500. I suggest you check the prices of computers in the Best Buy and computers bought somewhere else/online.

Wait you got a computer two years ago and its cheaper today? Yeah it happens.

What does this person want in terms of a computer? Do they want an entire setup or just another desktop.

If they want it all, then this is decent for a prebuilt storebought one.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp ... 46&count=1

As for just the computer, I don't know really. The iBuypower one that was recommended is good, but not sold anymore.


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well he could settle with the tower and keep all his other stuff but he jsut wants it for web browsing im other ligth stuff, he has an xbox 360 for any games :P.

i guess what he is really looking for is a computer with 1gb ram and vista sp1 with a processor at least 2ghz preferably a dual core. anyone have an idea of what the cheapest type/model for this would be?


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He should wait until he gets more money, then expand his price range. Lenovo is good


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well he could settle with the tower and keep all his other stuff but he jsut wants it for web browsing im other ligth stuff, he has an xbox 360 for any games :P.

i guess what he is really looking for is a computer with 1gb ram and vista sp1 with a processor at least 2ghz preferably a dual core. anyone have an idea of what the cheapest type/model for this would be?

He has an 360? Well them, I suggest he should get Vista Home Premium. He doesn't need Ultimate, and Premium has Windows Media Center, and he can use it with his 360. But Windows Media Center in Vista requires a powerful computer. I recommend he gets a computer with at least the following:

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At least 2GB of RAM
A CPU with at least 2 ghz (Intel Core 2 Duo is good enough)

That should be good enough for his everyday tasks.


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If they want it all, then this is decent for a prebuilt storebought one.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp ... 46&count=1

That's a good all-in-one computer, except the GPU is horrible because it is a GeForce 6 series GPU with only 128MB of memory. That's very disappointing for a computer with 3GB of RAM, no offense.


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do you think it would be hard for him to find one for under $500?

is there any real difference between ultimate and premium?


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I think your friend should get you build him a computer :D

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zamadatix wrote:
do you think it would be hard for him to find one for under $500?

is there any real difference between ultimate and premium?

It's likely that he can, he may have to buy it online though. Purchasing computers/parts online can give you big savings :wink: The websites you should check out are http://newegg.com and http://tigerdirect.com

The real difference between ultimate and premium is that ultimate=premium+enterprise(if not then business)+Windows ultimate extras. However you don't need business, enterprise is not sold in PCs, and Ultimate Extras is really a joke.


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OK thanks a lot because his computer came with windows 95 on it and he really needed an upgrade!


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if he doesn't need a monitor, then he can pick up a really good one at pretty much any retail store. If you have the skills, I'd recommend you go to newegg and build it yourself for pennies on the dime (figure of speech), but still considerably a lot cheaper.


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Just stay away from brands you haven't heard of before, eMachines, and Averatec. The support is awful from all of them.

Also, building a PC is not cheaper. If you don't want to spend a lot of money, just pick up a PC already built, it's easier and cheaper.


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Just stay away from brands you haven't heard of before, eMachines, and Averatec. The support is awful from all of them.

Also, building a PC is not cheaper. If you don't want to spend a lot of money, just pick up a PC already built, it's easier and cheaper.

Just a slight correction. Building a PC at this price point isn't cheaper. The more expensive the prebuilt computer (especially companies like Alienware... which is sold at Best Buy now) the more likely it is to be more affordable if prebuilt.

Thlump, the reason that its 128MB is because its an onboard video card. Also 3GB of RAM (well 4) is literally $45 right now, that's not really a good barometer of a good PC anymore.


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Are you factoring in the cost of a Windows license?

The cheapest you can get Vista is Home Basic System Builder at $90. I would recommend Home Premium which runs around $110. That cuts the budget down by about 25%. If he needs to buy a monitor then add at least another $100. BAM. You go build me a decent computer (case, PSU, motherboard, RAM, HDD, optical drive, CPU, keyboard, mouse, and power cables with what's left over of that $400-500 and I'll mail you a cookie.

These are meant for business but they'll sell you one anyway: http://www.dell.com/business/desktops?~ ... 836&page=1
OH! They also all come with a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and power cables.

There is one on there with a Core 2, Vista Home Basic (you can customize and add Home Premium for $29) and a 19" LCD for $479

Look here: http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/ ... nspndt_530
$554 shipped for a Computer with a Core 2, 2GB RAM, 19" LCD Monitor, 320GB HDD, DVD+-RW, keyboard, optical mouse, Vista Home Premium SP1, free shipping, power cables, and 1 year of support from Dell. If he can't afford that then go down to the 17" LCD and it would be $514 shipped. If he seriously doesn't need Home Premium and can do with Home Basic that brings the total (shipped) down to $485.


Go ahead and look at some OEM PCs and price out all the parts, it ends up costing most. They make the cases in mass amounts, buy the parts in mass amounts, get discounts on Windows, get paid by software vendors to install their software on the PCs.


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Try the iBUYPOWER Gamer 900EE Core 2 Quad Q6600(2.40GHz) 4GB DDR2 500GB NVIDIA GeForce 7050 Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit. It has intel Core 2 Quad Q6600.


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I looked at the tiger direct link and found this on their site. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4164490&Sku=H25-5610


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