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 PostPost subject: My internet connection        Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:45 pm 
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Hello guys i cant take my internet connection anymore im am going to get one of those wireless sticks. The question is can you share the internet conection from one of them if you have a dedicated computer connected to the internet, could you use a DHCP server on windows xp to share one of those connections through a router. (the reason im packing up my ADSL line is because it is just completly screwed it crashes, ive tried 3 different routers, each day the speed keeps on going down down down today speedtest is 300kbps download and 378kbps upload.) i cant take it anymore, 1 more questoin do you know what kind of speeds you get on them are they more than 1mb?, and also can you still foward ports eg for web servers etc.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:58 pm 
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Well, Wireless internet is Slower then cable or ADSL.

Internet sharing is creating a network bridge, select 2 adapters and then right-click, Bridge connections.

But at the router or the computer that serves DHCP must have an Wireless Access Point, otherwise it doesn't work (off-course).

And you can use and Webserver on an Wireless, but it's really not recommended because it slow.


And for those problems with ADSL, go to your ISP, they need to deliver what they promised you.


BUT DO NOT FORGET TO SECURE YOUR WIRELESS CONNECTION!!
Otherwise you can be hacked or even your neigbours use your wireless for Free and take all your connection.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:07 pm 
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The USB modems via the phone networks aren't very good. You should check if you're in an area that supports HSPA/3G access or you'll get 56K or lower.

Also remember you will have a cap of 1,3, 5 or 7GB depending on the stick and tier you get too, which isn't much. You can't host servers off it because its a shared IP for everyone, and you never get a "real" ip anyway because the software emulates a connection to the wireless networks. Pings will be very sporadic and about 5x slower than a standard ADSL or Cable connection too.

All in all if you just want it for browsing or e-mail, you're fine, but for anything else they're quite pointless. You're better off ringing BT and getting them to find out what the fault is on your line. Either that or change ISP as the ISP themselves might be changing your IP profile in the hope you don't notice and/or to save costs.

I think DJRob misunderstood what you were talking about, thinking you wanted to simply go wireless and not use one of these USB modem sticks.

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The USB modems via the phone networks aren't very good. You should check if you're in an area that supports HSPA/3G access or you'll get 56K or lower.

Also remember you will have a cap of 1,3, 5 or 7GB depending on the stick and tier you get too, which isn't much. You can't host servers off it because its a shared IP for everyone, and you never get a "real" ip anyway because the software emulates a connection to the wireless networks. Pings will be very sporadic and about 5x slower than a standard ADSL or Cable connection too.

All in all if you just want it for browsing or e-mail, you're fine, but for anything else they're quite pointless. You're better off ringing BT and getting them to find out what the fault is on your line. Either that or change ISP as the ISP themselves might be changing your IP profile in the hope you don't notice and/or to save costs.

I think DJRob misunderstood what you were talking about, thinking you wanted to simply go wireless and not use one of these USB modem sticks.


I think I have, sorry for that.
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This means mostly Wireless USB ADAPTERS, a wireless reciever for the PC.
They can have higher speeds then USB Modem sticks.

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Do you have ADSL or cable? If ADSL - Ring the phone company who provides your phone line (eg BT) and tell them there is a voice fault on the line.

If Cable - ring your ISP and say the line is faulty blah blah blah


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So, if the IP address is shared amongst many people in an area using 3G, if someone did illegal activity on the internet, how would the police know who to blame?

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So, if the IP address is shared amongst many people in an area using 3G, if someone did illegal activity on the internet, how would the police know who to blame?


The ISP keeps a log of your connection and what you do on it, so thats pretty easy.

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I've checked my IP on my phone before, it returned 10.193.18.235 which isn't even an internet IP, its a private LAN IP, which proves correct what Andy said about you never getting a "real" IP.


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My friend has a 3G wifi connection for her house... she gets her own IP...
so does my phone (except it says I'm in another state :S)

Your Real DNS is: pa58-109-200-157.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au

oh and Callum: they use MAC addresses for a reason


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I have a 3G USB Stick with Bigpond for when I go out of state (2Gig Data limit...WOOT!), and I also get my own Seperate IP address while using it, the only one real problem was ping latency, and that was only a little higher then usual.

Downloading was around 2Mb/s, not quite bad considering I was staying right next to an Domestic Airport with alot of air interference.

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But if the IP is sahred among many users, how will the ISP have any way of knowing EXACTLY who abused the service? Around 10 or 20 people could get into trouble at the same time!

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But if the IP is sahred among many users, how will the ISP have any way of knowing EXACTLY who abused the service? Around 10 or 20 people could get into trouble at the same time!


Because everyone has a different MAC address - which you have too. Hint: its in all networking equipment.

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squidward_ wrote:
But if the IP is sahred among many users, how will the ISP have any way of knowing EXACTLY who abused the service? Around 10 or 20 people could get into trouble at the same time!


Because everyone has a different MAC address - which you have too. Hint: its in all networking equipment.


But of course he'd known that had he read the REST of the topic because he'd already asked...

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So, its not just the IP address that can help track down somebody doing wrong on the internet, the mac address can help as well? I never even knew that! Thankyou! :)

BTW, is this how people still get found out even if they use a proxy? And also, I have notice a t-mobile advert for 3G services, (web n walk) and in the fine print, it says that it isn't even allowed to be used to provide Internet access for PCs! How exactly could they foind out if you are using it in a PC?

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So, its not just the IP address that can help track down somebody doing wrong on the internet, the mac address can help as well? I never even knew that! Thankyou! :)

BTW, is this how people still get found out even if they use a proxy? And also, I have notice a t-mobile advert for 3G services, (web n walk) and in the fine print, it says that it isn't even allowed to be used to provide Internet access for PCs! How exactly could they foind out if you are using it in a PC?


There are lots of ways to track someone. Even when behind a web proxy, your real IP is often still transmitted in the header and can be got at with a few tricks. The same trick is applied on my site at www.abyssunderground.co.uk/ip.

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Andy wrote:
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So, its not just the IP address that can help track down somebody doing wrong on the internet, the mac address can help as well? I never even knew that! Thankyou! :)

BTW, is this how people still get found out even if they use a proxy? And also, I have notice a t-mobile advert for 3G services, (web n walk) and in the fine print, it says that it isn't even allowed to be used to provide Internet access for PCs! How exactly could they foind out if you are using it in a PC?


There are lots of ways to track someone. Even when behind a web proxy, your real IP is often still transmitted in the header and can be got at with a few tricks. The same trick is applied on my site at www.abyssunderground.co.uk/ip.


why bother explaining [censored] to people who don't have a clue and refuse to get one?


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So, say if I was some person who did something seriously wrong on this website, (not that I ever will of course), you would be able to track me no matter what?

(I don't intend to ever do anything wrong that is criminal or otherwise in any here of course!)

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So, say if I was some person who did something seriously wrong on this website, (not that I ever will of course), you would be able to track me no matter what?

(I don't intend to ever do anything wrong that is criminal or otherwise in any here of course!)


seven proxies...

seriously though, there is always the chance you will get caught, proxies or not..


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You ean that the people hosting the proxies might grass you up?

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You ean that the people hosting the proxies might grass you up?


they can if they wish..


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