BetaArchive Logo
Navigation Home Screenshots Image Uploader Server Info FTP Servers Wiki Forum RSS Feed Rules Please Donate
UP: 23d, 4h, 45m | CPU: 24% | MEM: 5488MB of 12227MB used
{The community for beta collectors}

Forum rules


Any off topic discussions should go in this forum. Post count is not increased by posting here.
FTP Access status is required to post in this forum. Find out how to get it


Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
Author Message
 PostPost subject: Proof that Windows 2000 Embedded Exists        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:56 am 
Reply with quote
Donator
User avatar
Offline

Joined
Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:30 pm

Posts
1524

Favourite OS
Mac OS 9.2.2
Image

http://cgi.ebay.com/Touch-Dynamic-POS-T ... 286.c0.m14

_________________
Image
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC; en-US; mimic; rv:9.3.2) Clecko/20120101 Classilla/CFM
"Stupid can opener! You killed my father, and now you've come back for me!"


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:50 am 
Reply with quote
Donator
User avatar
Offline

Joined
Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:22 am

Posts
2366
I didn't know that there wasn't proof, I have a 2000 Embedded COA myself. Funny how people post screenshots with product keys in them.


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:01 am 
Reply with quote
Donator
Offline

Joined
Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:40 am

Posts
1513
QuiescentWonder wrote:
I didn't know that there wasn't proof, I have a 2000 Embedded COA myself. Funny how people post screenshots with product keys in them.

Posting a product key doesn't harm, WIndows 2000 doesn't have activation.
Even if it did, Dell product keys can't activate over the internet.

but there is no point in posting the COA label, unless they want to show the year the aquired the label. MS changes the COA label every couple of years but this person just want to show what's inside the cover.


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:12 am 
Reply with quote
Donator
User avatar
Offline

Joined
Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:22 am

Posts
2366
No, they probably just wanted to show that they're selling a laptop with a legal copy of Windows on it. Without a COA the EULA would have been broken.

Sure, they change the style of the COA every once in a while, I'm not sure what else you would mean by saying they change it every couple of years. They certainly don't post the same key on every COA and I'm not sure what else you would be referring to, as the style of the COA has nothing to do with it's validity.

Also, in Windows XP, Dell COAs might not be activated over the Internet, but they are over the phone.


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:28 am 
Reply with quote
FTP Access
User avatar
Offline

Joined
Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:47 am

Posts
557

Location
Lismore, NSW, Australia

Favourite OS
Whistler
#1: That's a POS Machine, not a Laptop
#2: It's currently running on every Touchscreen POS system at my local supermarket, I'm presuming OEM?.

Who gave you the idea that 2000 Embedded didn't exist? :|

EDIT: It's odd when having a look around the web that it was said to be cancelled, and yet, there is copies running on certain different types of devices, I'm presuming the OEM copy part because in the manual to the POS machines, there are references of the OS on a recovery partition :^)

_________________
Slavic Wog to the Core!

My Mark; Shall you RIP. 15/06/1960 - 11/04/2014


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:17 am 
Reply with quote
Donator
Offline

Joined
Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:12 pm

Posts
2461
Alexsis wrote:
#1: That's a POS Machine, not a Laptop


Who said it was a laptop? :|

offnote, one of the major supermarkets here have like P3 1Ghz POS machines with NT4..


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:29 am 
Reply with quote
Donator
Offline

Joined
Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:56 pm

Posts
228

Location
North England.
QuiescentWonder wrote:
they're selling a laptop


----------------
Listening to: Nirvana - Polly

_________________
Image


Top  Profile  WWW
 PostPost subject: Re: Proof that Windows 2000 Embedded Exists        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:51 pm 
Reply with quote
FTP Access
User avatar
Offline

Joined
Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:26 pm

Posts
327

Location
USA

Favourite OS
Windows 2000 SP4
Here's a very interesting article of a guy who wants to Reinstall Windows 2000 Embedded, he says on the drive that there is a batch file and a ghost image to reinstall the operating system.

http://ask.metafilter.com/60117/Reinstall-Windows-2000-Embedded

Also, If I ever see one of these in recycling at work or for sale, I'll grab it and make an image of the harddisk for everyone at BA
:)


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:12 pm 
Reply with quote
Donator
User avatar
Offline

Joined
Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:43 am

Posts
163
Quote:
#1: That's a POS Machine, not a Laptop


lol, at first I thought you meant "piece of s***"

:D


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:15 pm 
Reply with quote
FTP Access
User avatar
Offline

Joined
Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:47 pm

Posts
172
Windows 2000 Embedded does indeed exist, but it was shortly nixed and they switched to the Whistler/XP-based kernel for the operating system.

http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/8678/microsoft-windows-2000-embedded-doesnt-stick-around.html

Quote:
The Windows 2000 Embedded development efforts are gone. The new development group will deliver an embedded OS based on the upcoming Whistler OS, which will appear late in 2001; Microsoft will release the Whistler embedded OS about 90 days later. Microsoft will release a Win2K Appliance Kit and follow it with a high-end embedded OS release in about 18 months, delaying Microsoft's assault on the high-end embedded OS marketplace. The Win2K Appliance Kit will contain the same tools and technology that Microsoft used in IBM and Dell information appliances—customized versions of Win2K in which Microsoft has disabled, but not removed, parts of the OS to create a smaller footprint.


"Win2K Appliance Kit" sounds like that "Windows Powered" OS on the FTP.


Top  Profile
 PostPost subject:        Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:48 pm 
Reply with quote
Donator
Offline

Joined
Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:00 pm

Posts
3557
This document mentions:

Quote:
MICROSOFT® WINDOWS® 2000 PROFESSIONAL FOR EMBEDDED SYSTEMS (1-2 CPU VERSION)
MICROSOFT® WINDOWS® XP PROFESSIONAL 64 BIT EDITION FOR EMBEDDED SYSTEMS (1-2 CPU)
MICROSOFT® WINDOWS® XP PROFESSIONAL FOR EMBEDDED SYSTEMS (1-2 CPU VERSION)
MICROSOFT® WINDOWS® XP PROFESSIONAL FOR EMBEDDED SYSTEMS—RUSSIAN VERSION (1-2 CPU VERSION)
MICROSOFT® WINDOWS® XP PROFESSIONAL FOR EMBEDDED SYSTEMS—SIMPLIFIED CHINESE VERSION (1-2 CPU VERSION)


However, those are not componentized like the normal Windows XP Embedded. These versions (I have XP Pro for Embedded Systems) are bog-standard OEM versions including WPA etc. but sold with different licensing terms:

Quote:
2. ADDITIONAL LICENSING REQUIREMENTS AND/OR USE RIGHTS.
a. Specific Use. [OEM] designed this device for a specific use. You may only use the software for that use.
b. Other Software. You may use other programs with the software as long as the other programs
• directly support the manufacturer’s specific use for the device, or
• provide system utilities, resource management, or anti-virus or similar protection.
Software that provides consumer or business tasks or processes may not run on the device. This includes email, word processing, spreadsheet, database, scheduling and personal finance software. The device may use terminal services protocols to access such software running on a server


In other words, no general purpose OS, just designed for one purpose (even though they can be used as such).

I am inclined to believe that the "Windows 2000 Pro Embedded" COA refers to this version but of course I may be wrong.


Top  Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 




Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  

All views expressed in these forums are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of the BetaArchive site owner.

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Copyright © 2006-2018

 

Sitemap | XML | RSS