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 PostPost subject: PC Virtulisation software        Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:52 pm 
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MS VPC or VMWare for newer OSes, I've just got Bochs which gives 386/486 emulation but what about anything older 8086 or 286? does anything exist. Have been Googling with little luck and if someones tested something here that works well on Vista I'd be grateful for the info.

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 PostPost subject: Re: PC Virtulisation software        Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:37 pm 
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Mr. Bird Poo wrote:
What are people using?

MS VPC or VMWare for newer OSes, I've just got Bochs which gives 386/486 emulation but what about anything older 8086 or 286? does anything exist. Have been Googling with little luck and if someones tested something here that works well on Vista I'd be grateful for the info.


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Bochs, almost never, only windows 1.x beta
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PCem for 8086,186,286

PCem has an IBM XT bios, so it perfect that type of booting, but its trick how to do it (or I am not very good at it).

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:15 pm 
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I use Windows Virtual Pc, and I think it work very well. The only problem is, that at some why, keys that are automaticly filled in, not work (for me) in VPC.

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Why do you need a specific 286/386/486 emulator? Virtual PC/VMware can run anything back to Windows 1.0x and are much faster and easier to use than things like Bochs.

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Well it's mainly for full graphical support in the 1.x builds which I read somewhere on here VPC doesn't cater for (bootscreen is fuzzled I think). What would you suggest for these builds?

Also if I wanted to use MS DOS 1.00 just to see it, again what would people suggest using to emulate. As said I'm using Vista so the programs need to work on that.

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Why do you need a specific 286/386/486 emulator? Virtual PC/VMware can run anything back to Windows 1.0x and are much faster and easier to use than things like Bochs.
In case you haven't read, the Windows 1.00 DR5 doesn't work on Virtual PC or anything like that. It only works on emulators that actually try to emulate the hardware that the Microsoft Windows 1.00 Development Release 5 was designed for/tested on.


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Mr. Bird Poo wrote:
Well it's mainly for full graphical support in the 1.x builds which I read somewhere on here VPC doesn't cater for (bootscreen is fuzzled I think). What would you suggest for these builds?

Yes, I think the bootscreen is a little odd in 1.0x though you can still read it, I can't really remember now as it's ages since I ran 1.0x though - it's certainly good enough though, at least for me (or maybe I'm thinking of 2.o3, I think 1.0x boots so fast you don't really see the bootscreen).

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:42 pm 
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As said though the developers release won't work in VPC. I've been trying to use Bochsbut it seems a lot of my disk images won't work under it. Now looking into PCem but can't find any site that will run me through using it.

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i never could get the hang of VMware, so i stick with VPC/Bochs, albeit harder to get things running, i like how portable bochs is (windows 1.0 on my psp is a plus)

btw, whats PCem? a 386/286 emulator?

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PCem is an emulator for old XT/AT-class PCs. It emulates :
- IBM 5150 PC
- IBM 5160 XT
- Tandy 1000
- Generic XT clone
- Schneider EuroPC
- Amstrad PC1512
- Sinclair PC200
- Amstrad PC1640
- IBM AT
- AMI 286 clone

with 640k of RAM (4mb for AT and 286), 2 floppy drives (up to 2.88mb), 2 hard drives, CGA, MDA, Hercules, EGA (PC1640 only), VGA or SVGA, SoundBlaster, GameBlaster, and a mouse. It can run both DOS-based games and booter games.

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