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 PostPost subject: Even better than Calmira...        Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:29 pm 
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... How about trying to port the Chicago (5x) Cabinet Shell to Windows 3.1? I've just been thinking how intriguing it might be to do that - what do you think?

I also think it'd be a cool idea to have a go at getting it to work on 95-final - ?

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 PostPost subject: Re: Even better than Calmira...        Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:46 pm 
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... How about trying to port the Chicago (5x) Cabinet Shell to Windows 3.1? I've just been thinking how intriguing it might be to do that - what do you think?

I also think it'd be a cool idea to have a go at getting it to work on 95-final - ?

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This is not easy, because Chicago is more advanced than 3.11 ...

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:18 pm 
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Plus, no one aside from Microsoft has the source code.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:32 pm 
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Hmm... maybe it's possible to decompile the OS for the source code?(doubt it, but it's possible for regular programs)

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:31 pm 
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I think it's probably possible to use EXEScope to modify the way it works, but it might require Win32s to run. I can try it if you would like.


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Hmm... maybe it's possible to decompile the OS for the source code?(doubt it, but it's possible for regular programs)


I don't know what you mean by "regular programs". It's possible to decompile flash/java/some old VB apps to their source, or something close to their source. As far as I know for everything else you can just get assembly.


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Not worried about requiring Win32s - if I have to have that installed, then that'll mean it'll be more capable anyway - plus, I always have Win32s on my Win16 machines anyway :P.

If you'd like to give it a try, that'd be great, thanks :).

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Could someone change the title of this thread to be more representative of what the thread is about, maybe "Is it possible to get Chicago's shell on Win3.1" or such?

It sounds like an informative thread about a new software product which is better than Calmira, rather than someone questioning whether Chicago's shell would be able to be ported to Windows 3.1 or the likes...

As for the topic, very intruiging, it will be interesting to see if this prospect is at all progressable.

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QuiescentWonder wrote:
Thlump wrote:
Hmm... maybe it's possible to decompile the OS for the source code?(doubt it, but it's possible for regular programs)


I don't know what you mean by "regular programs". It's possible to decompile flash/java/some old VB apps to their source, or something close to their source. As far as I know for everything else you can just get assembly.
Oh yeah, I actually meant programs made by VB, C#, Delphi, etc... Sorry about that. And there's a program by SourceTec where you can decompile swf files.


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I say it is somewhat impossible...

Microsoft has encrypted and most importantly MS's employees, if they are really worth their 250k USD a year salaries, obfusticated the code. Furthermore, the build enviroment and libaries used most likely are inaccessible. Consequently, it will be beyond anybody's ability on this board to not only get the source code but also use it.

It maybe possible to find away around porting the shell such as launching it with special parameters in a more friendly OS such as NT 3.5.

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