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 PostPost subject: Classic style at logon.        Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:44 am 
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Hi.

When logging into a domain, you have to go trough CTRL+ALT+DEL,
But in Windows XP, its the Luna theme.

I can change it to something else like classic theme, but then it looks only like luna in classic.
I need the Windows Classic style at logon, not only with theme service disabled.

I mean like this:

Normal XP logon:
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With the classic theme as default in registery you get this:
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But i need this:
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The REAL XP classic style, not only with theme service disabled as in the second picture.

It can be that there is an .msstyles file with classic, but i dont see it anywhere on the internet.
XP only excepts .msstyles as DLL and not the normal .theme files.

Before you answer change the extension it didnt work (i know thats a stupid, way but at least this is tryed).

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:05 am 
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I don't remember how to do it manually but TweakUI can copy your account settings (wallpaper, theme, etc) to the pre-logon do-dad, so if you grab TweakUI and set classic mode on your account, run TweakUI and press a couple of buttons (I remember it being fairly self-explanatory) then you'll be sorted.


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I know this sound stupid, but that was the first thing i tryed.

And tweak UI is only making changes to the registery wich i had also done manually.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:58 pm 
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Shows how you can change the Logon Screen theme to classic.
I used this to change the login screen to the Zune theme once.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 1:48 pm 
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Nope.
Didnt work.
I have seen those websites already.
They only give the result for NO THEME, is just theme service disabled and other msstyles.

As i said before, XP themes are .msstyles, the classic theme is a normal .theme file.

Maybe i have at work the classic .msstyles, but i am free today because of the Liberation day of WOII (5 may), so i check tomorrow, because when you login there you will get a theme from the server, that looks like the classic one.

I will post result tomorrow.

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I was sure the TweakUI method would work, so just tried on my test XP setup setting the ThemeActive setting in the registry to 0 (in the same key for the default user as where you set the msstyles file, this setting disables visual styles), and then copied all the desktop settings using TweakUI, and got it:

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Wish they'd kept the Classic logon in Vista by the way :(

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The way that really works...

1. Fire up cmd.exe
2. AT HH:MM /INTERACTIVE cmd.exe
2. (where HH:MM is your Windows time + 1 minute)
3. Wait
4. On the new prompt, enter:
4. RUNDLL32 shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl
5. You will be presented with desktop properties for SYSTEM user.
6. Change the theme to classic using these desktop properties.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:40 pm 
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RichardGatinho wrote:
The way that really works...

1. Fire up cmd.exe
2. AT HH:MM /INTERACTIVE cmd.exe
2. (where HH:MM is your Windows time + 1 minute)
3. Wait
4. On the new prompt, enter:
4. RUNDLL32 shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl
5. You will be presented with desktop properties for SYSTEM user.
6. Change the theme to classic using these desktop properties.


Ok, that i am not going to try because they are business/education computers.
As i pointed out, i think the msstyles of the classic windows is present on the server in the netlogon folder.
I will see that tomorrow first thing.
(the second thing is distributing the dutch sp3, 3rd is cleaning viruses/spyware, what an interesting day).

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DjRob wrote:
i think the msstyles of the classic windows is present on the server in the netlogon folder

There's no such thing, Classic isn't an msstyles theme, it's what XP looks like underneath the skins that Uxtheme provides. The only file for Classic is a .theme, which is just a collection of settings for which msstyle is enabled (in this case none), window/title bar sizes, colours, wallpaper etc. As I said, you just need to disable the theme for the default user to remove the visual styles, then copy the settings across so that it has the proper colours and title bar size ;)

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The person that has created the horrifying slow server has put a login.bat with a classic msstyles (maybe not the original but it looks a bit smoother then the original theme).

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TweakUI has always worked for me. I set my desktop theme to classic and then tell it to copy my settings to logon.


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Can't you just disable the Themes service? The advantage to doing this is that if you aren't using XP style themes anyway you'll free up some RAM and maybe make the computer boot a bit faster.

Right-click on My Computer, select Manage, go to Services. Find Themes, right-click on it and select Properties, under Startup Type select Disabled.

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You can do the same from a batch file using this method:

sc config Themes start=disabled

Then simply restart your computer and the themes will no longer work until you enable the themes service.


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