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 PostPost subject: Which OS        Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:41 pm 
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I'm upgrading my laptop HDD, my specs are:

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I already have XP running and wondered should I upgrade to Vista or not?

BTW I will be dual booting Ubuntu.

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Vista on a Laptop is a no-go, especially with a celeron. I wouldn't even try it. DanielC advises me that Vista on any laptop, no matter what spec, is painfully slow (he work's in a computer shop and has to work with them on a daily basis).

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Vista on a Toshiba Sattalite Pro (Dual-Core ast 1.7 GHz and 2GB Ram with 160GB) is very fast, Vista and XP have the same boottime.

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unless youre using a core 2 duo on a laptop, don't use vista


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Oh sorry, i meant the Core 2 Duo (i sometimes confuse them, there names are close).

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Seriosly, damn I was hoping for Vista. Could I not strip it down?

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Put it on and try...I ran it on my desktop for a while (amd sempron 2600 1.6ghz/512mb ram) and it was fairly fast although no aero.


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Vista on a Toshiba Sattalite Pro (Dual-Core ast 1.7 GHz and 2GB Ram with 160GB) is very fast, Vista and XP have the same boottime.
since when?


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Why not put both XP and Vista on if you want to try out Vista but still have XP around? You only need a 5 GB partition for XP and 20 GB for Vista (25 for x64), and the rest of it partitioned for apps/data. By the way. I'm running Vista x64 on my new (cheap) Dell laptop and it's fine :)

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KCLiVES wrote:
Seriosly, damn I was hoping for Vista. Could I not strip it down?

I suppose you have DDR ram, but do you know if its DDR-400 (PC 3200)? or is it the 333MHz (2700)? Cause if you have the 400, you may able to use vista, but if you have the old 266MHz, I wouldn't brother.

also, because you have an intel graphic card, which is the worst ones you could ever get, that means no aero for you.


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My RAM is DDR2 PC2-5300 2x1024MB

I have an Intel 915GM gfx chip.

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your ram is fine, the processor is abit slow
the graphic card may able to run aero if its a GMA 950, but I dom't recommand it since intel gfx are slow.

if you really want to update, you could give it a try.
Backup your data and have a copy of xp incase if the upgrade is unsucessful, you may have to return to xp.

If you don't have a cd or for what ever reason that you think you can't reinstall, the DON'T install vista.


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Vista on a Toshiba Sattalite Pro (Dual-Core ast 1.7 GHz and 2GB Ram with 160GB) is very fast, Vista and XP have the same boottime.
since when?


Since the beginning and still their the same at boot time.
But that they are hardly used, 1 day in the week.
And the only software there on is the XP/Vista with Toshiba applications, Office 2003 and Office 2007 and AVG 7.5 Free (try to but 12x virus license each year, we dont have the money for that and AVG 7.5 Free is good enough).
And fully updated.

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your ram is fine, the processor is abit slow
the graphic card may able to run aero if its a GMA 950, but I dom't recommand it since intel gfx are slow.

if you really want to update, you could give it a try.
Backup your data and have a copy of xp incase if the upgrade is unsucessful, you may have to return to xp.

If you don't have a cd or for what ever reason that you think you can't reinstall, the DON'T install vista.


Thanks, i dont have any data to backup as i'm using a fresh drive so i'll give it a go.

As for Aero - does it just give transparency? If so i'm not too bothered.

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your ram is fine, the processor is abit slow
the graphic card may able to run aero if its a GMA 950, but I dom't recommand it since intel gfx are slow.

if you really want to update, you could give it a try.
Backup your data and have a copy of xp incase if the upgrade is unsucessful, you may have to return to xp.

If you don't have a cd or for what ever reason that you think you can't reinstall, the DON'T install vista.


Thanks, i dont have any data to backup as i'm using a fresh drive so i'll give it a go.

As for Aero - does it just give transparency? If so i'm not too bothered.

Thanks :)

Aero is the transparency and some other features, like Flip 3D.

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Transparent window borders, title bars and taskbar, fade in and out of windows opening and closing as opposed to just appearing/disappearing, cool minimise/restore up effects, Flip 3D, and the Aero mouse cursors are all included. They managed to make the non-Aero theme extremely ugly too, it's not just the pretty Aero theme minus the transparency.

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If I'd ever use Vista (God forbid me from ever having to do it) I'd instantly change the theme to Windows Classic. I can't stand the Luna (XP) theme nor Aero (or whatever is the Vista theme called). They are so damn ugly... Of course it's just my opinion :P And the Windows Classic theme is beautiful :D


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If I'd ever use Vista (God forbid me from ever having to do it) I'd instantly change the theme to Windows Classic. I can't stand the Luna (XP) theme nor Aero (or whatever is the Vista theme called). They are so damn ugly... Of course it's just my opinion :P And the Windows Classic theme is beautiful :D

Yes Windows Classic is a beautiful theme, but not in microsoft's eyes.


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Andy wrote:
Vista on a Laptop is a no-go, especially with a celeron. I wouldn't even try it. DanielC advises me that Vista on any laptop, no matter what spec, is painfully slow (he work's in a computer shop and has to work with them on a daily basis).


I have to disagree, Vista works fine on Laptops… my laptop is almost 3 years old and I’ve not had any problems with Vista.
Turion 64 @ 2ghz
2gig DDR400 Ram
Radion X700
100gig Harddrive

Ram is often the main issue with Vista, going from 1gig to 2gigs on my laptop made such a big difference.
I think KCLiVES laptop should run Vista fine, sure Vista wornt be as quick as XP but look at the minimum requirements for XP compared to Vista. I say try it, I installed Vista in 2006 on my laptop and never looked back!


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Thanks for that, I'm really tempted to use Vista as I've had XP since its release on 5 PCs and it seems repetitive.

I may give it a go, if not I will downgrade to XP Pro.

Out of interest, can you downgrade an OS whilst retaining User Accounts/Settings etc. ?

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I've been told by DanielC to try Vista so as of later this week I will be using it on my main desktop at home. I haven't really given Vista a fair chance I don't think so its time to try and give it its due.

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KCLiVES wrote:
Thanks for that, I'm really tempted to use Vista as I've had XP since its release on 5 PCs and it seems repetitive.

I may give it a go, if not I will downgrade to XP Pro.

Out of interest, can you downgrade an OS whilst retaining User Accounts/Settings etc. ?

Thnaks.



I think now it's time to try Vista with SP1: it is much faster than the RTM (especially in I/O operations like move, copy, etc.) and with little OS tweaks your hardware would be OK.

beware only on installing your old software... some old app (especially CD/DVD burning software) may screw up the system... tested on mine and i had to reinstall from scratch; you could be luckier, though

as a final note, if you downgrade from vista to xp, you lose your settings etc.


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Thanks, in addition to the spec I posted earlier I am now possibly upgrading my procesor to a Pentium M ~2.3GHz.

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Stick with XP, it is allot faster and less on memory..


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