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 PostPost subject: Updated my BIOS...        Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:13 pm 
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Well I finally took the plunge and had a go at updating my BIOS to see if I could sort out the issue of my 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo running at just 2.1 GHz because of the board's 1333 MHz FSB setting not seeming to work...


I was 99% convinced that I'd killed the board as it said I had to restart to complete the BIOS flash and it just restarted to no display, no beeps, no nothing, left it for a while like that then tried again, still nothing... :o About to order a new board, I lay the PC on its side and stuck a pair of scissors across the "Clear CMOS" jumpers in a last ditch attempt to revive it, and it actually worked after that! :o :D And what's more, the 1333 MHz overclock setting now sticks (before it just rebooted and the setting was automatically disabled again) and my WEI score has gone from 5.0 to 5.4 for CPU as a result! :D


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So moral of the story is don't be afraid of updating your BIOS - I was, and it left me with an underclocked CPU for 6 months! I'm so relieved though, I was that sure it was dead! It does feel extremely fast now, though I suppose that could be perception as I'm expecting it to be fast, I don't know whether such a change would actually be especially noticeable or not.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:28 pm 
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Didn't I tell you it would probably work? :)

As a side-note, it is common practice to short the "clear CMOS" jumper after a BIOS update to reset the settings.

Congrats for taking the plunge! As for the change being noticable, it could be and will be in demanding apps since this is a ~25% increase compared to your previous clock speed.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:52 pm 
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Hehe, yes, thanks for the encouragement, I certainly needed plenty of encouragement to take the plunge! :) If I'm not careful I'll end up trying the other things you've been encouraging me to try soon... ;) I didn't know about the CMOS thing, I just thought it would be worth a try as it resets everything, and when having problems with the initial install of OS X on my Mac it was helpful to unplug it and remove the little battery for a while, which is the same kind of thing.

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I'm still too scared to update any of my BIOS'es :P My PC's BIOS is something like September 2005...... :^)


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:17 am 
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Mine is August 2003.
There are no updates. (Edited 26/Nov/2009)
To be more precise: ASRock K7VM2 P1.90 AMIBIOS.


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happy dude wrote:
I'm still too scared to update any of my BIOS'es :P My PC's BIOS is something like September 2005...... :^)
I actually don't think September 2005 is that old.

I don't care much about my own BIOS's. Just as long as it's compatible with Windows, it's good enough for me. :)


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:29 am 
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WinPC wrote:
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I'm still too scared to update any of my BIOS'es :P My PC's BIOS is something like September 2005...... :^)
I actually don't think September 2005 is that old.

I don't care much about my own BIOS's. Just as long as it's compatible with Windows, it's good enough for me. :)


Eh...I've got a computer with a bios from 1995...updating it may allowe me to use the SDRAM slots on the motherboard rather than the EDO


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:31 am 
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I always use the newest (non-beta, usually) BIOS version available for a motherboard, unless a specific reason prevents me from doing that.


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I believe my bios is circa 2004. Biostar made one update for my motherboard. it had a bugfix and a new logo. I personally hate the new logo


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:41 pm 
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happy dude wrote:
I'm still too scared to update any of my BIOS'es :P My PC's BIOS is something like September 2005...... :^)

Unless you're having specific problems that an update might address the recommendation is to not update it I think, so there's no reason not to have an old BIOS :) I just used Gigabyte's utility that downloads and flashes the BIOS for you from within Windows by the way - so much easier that way, though I know it's usually recommended that you don't do it from within Windows just in case something happens to crash it mid-update.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:46 pm 
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happy dude wrote:
I'm still too scared to update any of my BIOS'es :P My PC's BIOS is something like September 2005...... :^)

Unless you're having specific problems that an update might address the recommendation is to not update it I think, so there's no reason not to have an old BIOS :) I just used Gigabyte's utility that downloads and flashes the BIOS for you from within Windows by the way - so much easier that way, though I know it's usually recommended that you don't do it from within Windows just in case something happens to crash it mid-update.

Agreed, I never flash from within Windows, only from the BIOS itself if that feature is present or from a pure DOS boot disk containing only io.sys, msdos.sys, command.com, the flash tool and the bios file itself. I tried to flash from within Windows once, and it failed, bricking the board. Lesson learned.

Otherwise, "Never touch a running system." or "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."


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Wow, I can play Crysis with 2x antialiasing and all of the settings on High now, with the same performance as without AA before, this really seems to have made a difference! :D (even though you would expect the game to be mainly graphics-bound)

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The first thing Dan told me to do when I got my new PC was update the BIOS. I hate doing it in case I "brick" the BIOS and I have to send it back. As of now however, I've never had one fail, or if it has, its replaced the corrupt BIOS with the old one by itself.

I would tend to agree with "if its not broken don't fix it though" as you have for years, but well done in finally giving it a go.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:37 pm 
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This is making me want to update my bios now! Congrats on the success.


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The Pfeiffenator wrote:
This is making me want to update my bios now!

Only do it if you have a specific problem that it might address - it only improved my Crysis performance because my CPU was underclocked before, it won't otherwise ;)


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The first thing Dan told me to do when I got my new PC was update the BIOS. I hate doing it in case I "brick" the BIOS and I have to send it back.

I'd be surprised if you even could send it back, there seem to be disclaimers everywhere for my board at least saying the flashing the BIOS is potentially risky and it's not their problem if it goes wrong. Yes, some people do like to update the firmware on everything when they build a PC, some even do it on the DVD drive and the like, but personally I don't like it and have never done it before. I think there's even a newer BIOS for my new laptop available, but there's no way I'm updating that! :P

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Vista Ultimate R2 wrote:
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The first thing Dan told me to do when I got my new PC was update the BIOS. I hate doing it in case I "brick" the BIOS and I have to send it back.

I'd be surprised if you even could send it back, there seem to be disclaimers everywhere for my board at least saying the flashing the BIOS is potentially risky and it's not their problem if it goes wrong. Yes, some people do like to update the firmware on everything when they build a PC, some even do it on the DVD drive and the like, but personally I don't like it and have never done it before. I think there's even a newer BIS for my new laptop available, but ehre's no way I'm updating that! :P


Well people have done it before simply saying its DOA (Dead on arrival) and 99.9% of the time it works.

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Well I'm sure you're too honest to do that ;)

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Well I'm sure you're too honest to do that ;)


Well as of yet its not happened to me so I haven't done it, but I know of a fair number of people who have. All the company does is sends it back and the BIOS chip is changed and its send out as refurbished or as-new.

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