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 PostPost subject: STOP LINKING TO WINWORLD'S DOWNLOADS DIRECTLY!!!        Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:50 am 
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Sorry for the caps, but please, I'm the one who pays for the server those downloads are on. It's bad enough when WinBoards users bitch about downloads, but when others are hotlinking to them, it's annoying, as the money for that server comes out of my pocket.

So please, stop.


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Not to say you don't have a reason to bitch, but come into the 21st century and deny downloading of anything that doesn't come from your site.


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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:43 am 
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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:33 pm 
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Unfortunately hotlinking is not something you can "ban" someone from doing. BA members can hotlink to any site all they like and I have nothing against it. If you don't want people downloading from you then why host the files? Files are there to be downloaded, if you don't want people downloading them, don't make them open to the public. Its as simple as that. If bandwidth is so expensive, find another providor or find somewhere with more initial bandwidth.

The FTP server we host has 1TB of bandwidth and its NEVER gone over 700gb usage despite it being open to anyone to download in the past.

Im sorry for being totally opposite to everyone else but it annoys me when people say "stop downloading my files" when they are plainly open for download anyway.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:29 pm 
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Unfortunately hotlinking is not something you can "ban" someone from doing. BA members can hotlink to any site all they like and I have nothing against it. If you don't want people downloading from you then why host the files? Files are there to be downloaded, if you don't want people downloading them, don't make them open to the public. Its as simple as that. If bandwidth is so expensive, find another providor or find somewhere with more initial bandwidth.

The FTP server we host has 1TB of bandwidth and its NEVER gone over 700gb usage despite it being open to anyone to download in the past.

Im sorry for being totally opposite to everyone else but it annoys me when people say "stop downloading my files" when they are plainly open for download anyway.


You're missing the point... this is the site owner asking for hotlinking to stop. Whether or not hotlinking is a big deal or not, is not being debated here. Zimmy wants people to stop hotlinking downloads off his site, and so I think we need to respect his request.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:18 pm 
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pr0gram the pr0grammer wrote:
You're missing the point... this is the site owner asking for hotlinking to stop. Whether or not hotlinking is a big deal or not, is not being debated here. Zimmy wants people to stop hotlinking downloads off his site, and so I think we need to respect his request.


Yes I know its the site owner, but hotlinking is not against the law. Try telling places like google to "stop hotlinking my site". Why stop the hotlinking but allow a link to the homepage, when they're only going to go and find the download anyway? It defeats the object. Imagine Google telling millions of people to stop hotlinking them. How many of those would listen do you think?

If you want to respect his wishes then do so, but I have every right to post any link I want. It doesn't matter who the owner is. If the owner doesn't like hotlinking, they should use some form of server-side protection to prevent it, just like we do with the images.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:40 am 
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A compromise might be for people to rehost the files on one of the betaarchive FTPs and link to the rehosted version rather than the winworld version? This could be a 'guideline' that is encouraged if none of the mods wish to enforce it.

A lack of available bandwidth on Zimmy's part is a legitimate issue and I think finding a win-win resolution to this problem is in the best interests of everybody in the community (I know how sad I was to see grabberslasher's FTP go, and I still haven't seen many of the things on it available anywhere else).


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A compromise might be for people to rehost the files on one of the betaarchive FTPs and link to the rehosted version rather than the winworld version? This could be a 'guideline' that is encouraged if none of the mods wish to enforce it.

A lack of available bandwidth on Zimmy's part is a legitimate issue and I think finding a win-win resolution to this problem is in the best interests of everybody in the community (I know how sad I was to see grabberslasher's FTP go, and I still haven't seen many of the things on it available anywhere else).


It would make sense.

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Andy.... if you dont mind hotlinking....
then why do i get a "no hotlinking" when i submit a picture here and use it as my avatar somewhere else?!
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Some site have their own prevention against hotlinking. Like you cant doenload somethings from certain sites if you were link directly to there, you must vista their site first. Or have seperate accounts and password for downloads located at his site like what andy does.
You can't blame BA just because there are links here, I bet some other people hotlinked your server somewhere else, but you have yet to discover.


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Andy.... if you dont mind hotlinking....
then why do i get a "no hotlinking" when i submit a picture here and use it as my avatar somewhere else?!
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No I said why should I not hotlink if you haven't put in measures to stop it? I've put in measures to stop it happening. If you don't want someone to link to your files, use hotlinking protection.

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