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 PostPost subject: Windows on a Flash Drive        Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:34 am 
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I'm looking to install Windows on a 2Gb Flash Drive. I'm not bothered about what version of windows, but preferably vlk, so there's no problem with activation, (I intend to use it on a few computers, rather than just one.) and it must not require a bootloader on the Hard Drive. I plan to do this using either a PE-based install (Guide Here) or a modified windows installation, probably using applications like nLite (Modifying XP Setup to install to USB). Now, I need to get the copy of Windows ready for install. I was going to Use Windows Fundamentals, But I'm not sure if it allows install to USB, and its installer is unusual, so it might be harder to modify.

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 PostPost subject:        Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:47 am 
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I'd not use FLP for that.

The problem is, (almost) all these guides for modifying the XP install source rely on the standard i386-based install AFAIK, not on a WIM install. I'd use s a standard XP Pro VLK OS for this, nLited maybe to reduce its size and speed it up. Other than that, after modifying the install source (and getting the loader to boot from the USB drive alone, which might only be possible if there are no other HDs in the system), you should be good to go. A thing to remember probably is that flash drives have a limited number of write cycles, so you should be careful with the swapfile. Best way would probaly be to disable it altogether although this might give problems.

Also, don't use NTFS on the flash drive, use FAT32, it's faster.

A great site to search for solutions at is http://www.usboot.org/. I'm sure this will help you, they also provide some helpful drivers for free. Something I remember from there is that standby and hibernation don't work.

This is a great idea BTW, might even have to try this myself. I have a 2GB flash drive that is unused ATM...


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I know, i just now need to acquire a vlk disc. I have a friend who has tonnes of VLK stuff, so i'll ask him.
As for NTFS vs FAT32, all my flash drives have been NTFS formatted, which i think is much better, i have noticed no performance difference, and i prefer the security and compression options.

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I forgot a point when dealing with FAT32 vs. NTFS: NTFS performs significantly more writes on a device than FAT32 does, so you may want to keep an eye on this.


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You could use BartPE.


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I could, but a full install would offer more functionality. The idea is that this performs as much as a standard installation as possible, but is transportable from computer to computer.

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Windows XP can be cut down by removing unneeded drivers and programs from the CAB files, and then reburning the CD. However, if you just want a Windows system that you can move from computer to computer, I would recommend using 98. It can be installed fully on a 1Gb flash drive and is just as stable. I know it can't run all of the programs that XP can, but for a portable OS it works well.

You could also get an external hard drive, then you would have no space worries! I would also disable the swap file, as you will not be using it permanently, this shouldn't be a problem


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there are a few issues with me running Windows 98.

- There is no Windows 98 Driver for the flash drive i wish to use.
- Most of my computers use nForce 4 chipsets which are not compatible with all Windows 9x/ME branch

As for a cut down Windows XP, thats currently my plan. I have Windows XP ready, My Flash Drive has arrived, So i'll get round to it hopefully in the next week.

PS, I also want to use NTFS, to compress my flash drive so I have more space for Programs and Documents

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When using NTFS, remember to tune it to reduce the writes to the flash drive.


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there are a few issues with me running Windows 98.

- There is no Windows 98 Driver for the flash drive i wish to use.
- Most of my computers use nForce 4 chipsets which are not compatible with all Windows 9x/ME branch

Ah, I didn't know that you were using nForce 4, nor that there is no 98 driver for your flash drive. Sorry that I couldn't have been more help.


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Most USB flash drives are standard USB Mass Storage devices and a generic driver should be fine...


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You could use WinBuilder and VistaPE (see vistape.boot-land.net).


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I was thinking about Windows 2000. It has the same setup, No activation, NTFS and a smaller footprint than XP. Any Downfalls?

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According to USBoot.org, it should work with Win2K as well.


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Just installed Windows 2000 (the 90mb ISO on the server) with only a small modification, no usb install yet, in VPC to check the space and it comes in at around 400mb, making it the best option by far. just downloading UltraISO as it can directly edit ISOs speeding up the process.

PS its SP4, is that the latest for 2000?

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I have Windows XP Extra Small USB Flash Edition

If youd like it?


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i'll have a look, upload it to my server if you can, if not try uploading to the beta archive server. ps how big is it? (ISO size and Installed size)

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@hounsell: SP4 is the latest one for Win2K, yes.


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thanks, ill download and test tomorrow.

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Has anyone got a full ISO of 2000 Pro. I think its ok as long as theres no key (which i dont need :D ). Its just that the 90mb ISOis nLited and theres a couple of problems, eg Only US Keyboard, No DirectX Support, and a few other important features and drivers removed.

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It would not be allowed on the AbyssUnderground server as it's warez according to our rules.


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ok, ive just seen it on Jordans Server, but its quite slow and the resume function is dodgy sometimes so it can get corrupted. ill check other sources.

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Wow, thats small, just downloading now. :shock:

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started nLiting the ISO, which works fine, but came up with this problem:

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Using latest 1.3.0.4 edition.

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